Re: [IAEP] Sunflower for Science on XO

2009-11-29 Thread Wade Brainerd
Hi Danny,

Vincent Povrik created a Sugar-specific version of Wine.  The .xo
bundle and other information are available at
http://wiki.winehq.org/SugaredWine.   You could use his bundle as a
starting point for packaging your program.

What toolkit does your software use for its user interface?  I don't
recognize the widgets, but if it's already Windows/Mac I wonder how
hard a true Linux port would be.

Best,
-Wade

On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 12:16 PM, Danny Kodicek
da...@sunflowerlearning.com wrote:
 Hi there

 I just wanted to write to let people know we've been experimenting with some
 success with getting our Sunflower for Science product
 (www.sunflowerlearning.com) running on an XO. It's a Windows/Mac product but
 I've got it running through SugaredWine and it's looking very promising.

 I have a few questions that I wondered if anyone might be able to help with:

 1) Screen resolution
 The biggest problem we have is that the screen res of the XO seems
 unnecessarily high and can't be changed. This leads to two big problems, one
 of readibility (which we can fix with a bit of work) and one of performance.
 Given the low spec of the machines, running full-screen animations, some of
 them in 3d, is pretty hard work for them at that resolution. Does anyone
 have any suggestions for ways to get round this issue? For example, I've
 been thinking about whether we could run the software at half-res and then
 use a screen magnifier app to bring it back to fullscreen

 2) Launching and packaging
 Although SugaredWine is great, it would seem that a more sensible option
 would be to package the software together with Wine as a single activity
 that can be launched directly from a stick or installed as a .xo. Our
 product doesn't have an installer, although it does write to the Registry -
 anyone tried anything like this?

 I'm afraid I'm a total Linux novice, so any advice would be welcome, but if
 you could talk to me like a small child that would be very helpful :)

 Thanks
 Danny

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Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [ANNOUNCE] Feature Policy updated

2009-11-29 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 11/27/2009 09:00 PM, Sascha Silbe wrote:
 On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 07:40:26PM +0100, Simon Schampijer wrote:

 * Backup up by the community *
 The proposer of the feature has to get feedback from the community.
 This includes technical feedback, feedback from the deployments etc.
 See as well in the last paragraph about which points the community
 might care. Of course there will be some different opinions in the
 community - in general there should be more YES than NO in the
 community for a feature to be able to get into a Sugar release.

 This puts the burden of interacting with deployments on each individual
 feature proposer (but away from the core developers, which is a good
 thing).
 How is that supposed to happen (getting feedback from deployments)?
 Writing to iaep? What if nobody replies to those messages (e.g. because
 it doesn't matter to them either way), will the feature be rejected even
 if it's a good idea? (*)

Yes, sending an email to sugar-devel - see here the section community 
consensus [1]. So deployments for example interested in the evolution of 
the Sugar platform should read sugar-devel and watch out for the 
[FEATURE] tag. Of course not only deployers are invited to comment.

The idea is to have the submitter of a Feature taking care of getting 
the feedback. He is the one that knows best about the feature. It is 
good practice to interact with the community, too. The release manager 
is just there to make sure the process is done correctly.

 (*) Obviously good idea is quite subjective, but I assume you
 understand what I mean.

I guess we have to use common sense for that. There are guidelines [2] 
what you should thinks about before proposing a feature. I hope we don't 
see dead ends often. If we do, we can create a board that solves such 
conflicts - like the oversight board (not sure if it is the same board 
or if it has to be a different one).

Regards,
Simon

[1] 
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/Policy#Propose_a_feature_for_addition_into_the_release_cycle
[2] 
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/Policy#Things_you_should_consider_when_proposing_a_feature
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[IAEP] sunjammer: machine reboot, Nov 29 15:00 EST

2009-11-29 Thread Bernie Innocenti
We need to perform a reboot of sunjammer.sugarlabs.org required to
fix the nfs server. The service outage should protract for just a
few minutes.

Apologies for any inconvenience,

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 \X/  Sugar Labs   - http://sugarlabs.org/


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[IAEP] ASLO Reviews

2009-11-29 Thread Wade Brainerd
Hi all,

The download counts on activities.sugarlabs.org are very high, but the
review counts are low.  Typing Turtle [1] has nearly 50,000 downloads
but only 2 reviews.

Most reviews are from within the Sugar community; there aren't many
from deployments.

Is there something we could to do encourage users of
activities.sugarlabs.org to write reviews?  Are there teachers on this
list who would be up for having their students review Sugar
activities?

Thanks,
Wade

[1] http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/addon/4026
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Re: [IAEP] [ASLO] [NOMINATION] Skype-1

2009-11-29 Thread Aleksey Lim
I guess its another point for future policy[1] for ASLO editors,
should we allow non-FOSS software on ASLO.

[1] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activity_Library/Editors/Policy

On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 10:14:56AM -0500, Sugar Labs Activities wrote:
 New activity was nominated to be public.
 
 Name: Skype 
 Version Number: 1 
 URL: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/es-ES/sugar/addon/4247 
 Review Link: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/es-ES/editors/review/29469 
 
 
 
 Sugar Labs Activities
 http://activities.sugarlabs.org
 
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Re: [IAEP] [ASLO] [NOMINATION] Skype-1

2009-11-29 Thread Chris Ball
Hi,

I guess its another point for future policy[1] for ASLO editors,
should we allow non-FOSS software on ASLO.

Even in the unlikely event that we decided to allow non-FOSS software
on ASLO, we are legally unable to distribute Skype because its
copyright license doesn't allow us to.  The activity should be taken
down immediately, for that reason.

(Sorry, Marcos.)

- Chris.
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[IAEP] Non-technical Activity Library editors policy

2009-11-29 Thread Aleksey Lim
Hi all,

There were some threads in mailing lists last time about what activities
could be approved to be public on Activity Library[1]. Well, some
of these questions are very arguable, but the worst thing which could be
is what we have now - lack on any definitions.

So, I created a first version draft[1] for such policy
(only non-technical reasons, for other cases, process is more or less
clear[2]).

I thing its a task for SLOB to approve such policy when its ready.

[1] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activity_Library/Editors/Policy/Non-Technical
[2] 
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activity_Library/Editors/Policy#Additional_technical_policy_for_editors

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Re: [IAEP] Help Activity on XO-1.5 [was: List of Sugar activities for the XO-1.5]

2009-11-29 Thread Gary C Martin
Hi Adam,

On 29 Nov 2009, at 22:36, Holt wrote:

 Brian/Seth
 Sandy raised a critical issue on our Support call today-- how much work would 
 it be to upgrade your great Help Activity from Sugar 0.82.1 to Sugar 0.84.x 
 for the XO-1.5?
 
 And how can experienced Support people help Help (and learn learning ;) here?
 
 http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Help_(activity)
 http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activities/Help
 
 Or would you dare ship the Help Activity as is?

I may have missed some recent activity, but the last help activity I saw failed 
in 0.84 and up due to hulahop changes needed for underlying mozila changes. A 
version was patched (by Sayamindu I think) for olpc France to ship for a 
Madagascar (I think?) deployment:

http://git.sugarlabs.org/projects/helpfr

I'm guessing you could pick up from here and add new 0.84 content via some 
documentation sprint effort.

Regards,
--Gary

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