Re: [IAEP] [FIELDBACK] Etoys

2010-02-26 Thread Kurt Gramlich
* Cherry Withers cwith...@ekindling.org [100226 07:42]:

 Gerald,
 
 It's definitely a balancing act trying to get them to focus on finishing up
 something and getting them to explore. Once they realize that they
 can affect the object by scripts they just want to do everything they can
 possibly do in one sitting (dragging and dropping tiles in one script window
 ..then I'm in fire fighting mode). Too much resulted in chaos in my class.
 Not doing THAT again. I now give them some time to go nuts on exploration
 then pull them back in to finish a project. Now I'm introducing just a max
 of two concepts (or tiles) in one 40min. session.
 
 Kathleen Harness has really good lesson plans for teaching one concept at a
 time: www.etoysillionois.org

did you mean

http://www.etoysillinois.org/

Regards/AmicaLinuxement/Saludos/Viele Gruesse!
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Re: [IAEP] Math on Web

2010-02-26 Thread Maria Droujkova
Gerald,

Check out Nibipedia for that sort of software. The creators may be open for
collaboration.

Cheers,
Maria Droujkova
http://www.naturalmath.com

Make math your own, to make your own math.




On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 7:53 PM, Gerald Ardito gerald.ard...@gmail.comwrote:

 Caroline,

 Something else that may be worth considering is the development of an
 activity like Info Slicer, where teachers can provide annotations for the
 videos, and/or prompts for notes or reflections.

 Gerald


 On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 3:41 PM, Caroline Meeks 
 solutiongr...@gmail.comwrote:



 On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 12:22 AM, Edward Cherlin echer...@gmail.comwrote:

 Anybody know about this? I wonder whether he would be willing to let
 us adapt his materials to laptops.


 Good idea!  What ideas do you have about how we would adopt it?

 We could start by asking him if he would make them CC license. I'm
 traveling to the Bay Area next month. If we can get some good ideas I'm
 happy to maybe team up with Cherry take him out to coffee and ask.

 Caroline



 http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/north_america/jan-june10/khan_02-22.html
 Feb. 22, 2010
 Math Wiz Adds Web Tools to Take Education to New Limits

 --
 Edward Mokurai (默雷/धर्ममेघशब्दगर्ज/دھرممیگھشبدگر ج) Cherlin
 Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation.
 The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination.
 http://www.earthtreasury.org/
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Re: [IAEP] [FIELDBACK] Etoys

2010-02-26 Thread K. K. Subramaniam
On Friday 26 February 2010 12:12:19 pm Cherry Withers wrote:
 It's definitely a balancing act trying to get them to focus on finishing up
 something and getting them to explore. Once they realize that they
 can affect the object by scripts they just want to do everything they can
 possibly do in one sitting (dragging and dropping tiles in one script
 window ..then I'm in fire fighting mode). Too much resulted in chaos in my
 class. Not doing THAT again. I now give them some time to go nuts on
 exploration then pull them back in to finish a project. Now I'm
 introducing just a max of two concepts (or tiles) in one 40min. session.
When a new tile is introduced, kids tend to use it over and over many times 
before they get to a state where they can use it in a project. This is par for 
the course.

Alan's car demo script starts with commands. When the script says forward 5 
what exactly is 5 in that blank space? Introducing watchers before commands 
helps ease the up ramp. Learning about watchers for shapes 
(length/width/heading), color and border and then position (x,y,..) allows 
kids to grasp spatial and angular dimensions gradually.

BTW, I wouldn't worry about kids finishing a project in the first few 
sessions. Curiosity and experimentation will dominate the sessions. Only when 
they reach a zone of comfort with the system will they become receptive to 
tips on saving their projects.

My experience is limited to non-English students in rural India using the 
English GUI. I don't know how much it would apply to students in other 
regions.

YMMV .. Subbu
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Re: [IAEP] [FIELDBACK] Etoys

2010-02-26 Thread Gerald Ardito
Subbu,

Thanks for this.
Your idea about watchers is a really good one.

Gerald

On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 7:53 AM, K. K. Subramaniam subb...@gmail.comwrote:

 On Friday 26 February 2010 12:12:19 pm Cherry Withers wrote:
  It's definitely a balancing act trying to get them to focus on finishing
 up
  something and getting them to explore. Once they realize that they
  can affect the object by scripts they just want to do everything they can
  possibly do in one sitting (dragging and dropping tiles in one script
  window ..then I'm in fire fighting mode). Too much resulted in chaos in
 my
  class. Not doing THAT again. I now give them some time to go nuts on
  exploration then pull them back in to finish a project. Now I'm
  introducing just a max of two concepts (or tiles) in one 40min. session.
 When a new tile is introduced, kids tend to use it over and over many times
 before they get to a state where they can use it in a project. This is par
 for
 the course.

 Alan's car demo script starts with commands. When the script says forward
 5
 what exactly is 5 in that blank space? Introducing watchers before commands
 helps ease the up ramp. Learning about watchers for shapes
 (length/width/heading), color and border and then position (x,y,..) allows
 kids to grasp spatial and angular dimensions gradually.

 BTW, I wouldn't worry about kids finishing a project in the first few
 sessions. Curiosity and experimentation will dominate the sessions. Only
 when
 they reach a zone of comfort with the system will they become receptive to
 tips on saving their projects.

 My experience is limited to non-English students in rural India using the
 English GUI. I don't know how much it would apply to students in other
 regions.

 YMMV .. Subbu
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Re: [IAEP] Math on Web

2010-02-26 Thread Gerald Ardito
Maria,

Thanks for the tip.

Gerald

On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 7:47 AM, Maria Droujkova droujk...@gmail.comwrote:

 Gerald,

 Check out Nibipedia for that sort of software. The creators may be open for
 collaboration.

 Cheers,
 Maria Droujkova
 http://www.naturalmath.com

 Make math your own, to make your own math.





 On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 7:53 PM, Gerald Ardito gerald.ard...@gmail.comwrote:

 Caroline,

 Something else that may be worth considering is the development of an
 activity like Info Slicer, where teachers can provide annotations for the
 videos, and/or prompts for notes or reflections.

 Gerald


 On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 3:41 PM, Caroline Meeks 
 solutiongr...@gmail.comwrote:



 On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 12:22 AM, Edward Cherlin echer...@gmail.comwrote:

 Anybody know about this? I wonder whether he would be willing to let
 us adapt his materials to laptops.


 Good idea!  What ideas do you have about how we would adopt it?

 We could start by asking him if he would make them CC license. I'm
 traveling to the Bay Area next month. If we can get some good ideas I'm
 happy to maybe team up with Cherry take him out to coffee and ask.

 Caroline



 http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/north_america/jan-june10/khan_02-22.html
 Feb. 22, 2010
 Math Wiz Adds Web Tools to Take Education to New Limits

 --
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 Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation.
 The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination.
 http://www.earthtreasury.org/
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Re: [IAEP] Drama / Theater in Sugar?

2010-02-26 Thread James Simmons
Sebastien,

Project Gutenberg and the Internet Archive have plays in their
collections.  You might try Read Etexts and Get Internet Archive Books
to see what plays are available.  I think I've seen some plays in
these collections that might be suitable for younger performers, and
they would all be in the public domain.

James Simmons


 Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2010 23:26:29 -0500
 From: Sebastian Silva sebast...@somosazucar.org
 Subject: [IAEP] Drama / Theater in Sugar?
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 Hi!

 Do we have something for playing with drama, maybe following a script?

 Thanks in advance!

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Re: [IAEP] Math on Web

2010-02-26 Thread Caroline Meeks
Here is a page on 4 YouTube Math Tutors

http://www.squidoo.com/Youtube-Math-Tutors

I think Gerald is right, we need a general way to help Sugar Teachers use
YouTube resources.

Can people help me brainstorm?

Challenges to using YouTube Resources:


   1. YouTube is blocked by the district
   2. No internet access
   3. Bandwidth if everyone is watching a video at once
   4. Workflow/Classflow challenges how do we get the kids watching the
   video we want them to watch and doing the work before and after to make it a
   learning experience.
   5. Legal issues, what is and isn't fair use of the a YouTube resource?


On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 7:53 PM, Gerald Ardito gerald.ard...@gmail.comwrote:

 Caroline,

 Something else that may be worth considering is the development of an
 activity like Info Slicer, where teachers can provide annotations for the
 videos, and/or prompts for notes or reflections.

 Gerald


 On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 3:41 PM, Caroline Meeks 
 solutiongr...@gmail.comwrote:



 On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 12:22 AM, Edward Cherlin echer...@gmail.comwrote:

 Anybody know about this? I wonder whether he would be willing to let
 us adapt his materials to laptops.


 Good idea!  What ideas do you have about how we would adopt it?

 We could start by asking him if he would make them CC license. I'm
 traveling to the Bay Area next month. If we can get some good ideas I'm
 happy to maybe team up with Cherry take him out to coffee and ask.

 Caroline



 http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/north_america/jan-june10/khan_02-22.html
 Feb. 22, 2010
 Math Wiz Adds Web Tools to Take Education to New Limits

 --
 Edward Mokurai (默雷/धर्ममेघशब्दगर्ज/دھرممیگھشبدگر ج) Cherlin
 Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation.
 The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination.
 http://www.earthtreasury.org/
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Re: [IAEP] Math on Web

2010-02-26 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 11:31, Caroline Meeks
carol...@solutiongrove.com wrote:
 Here is a page on 4 YouTube Math Tutors
 http://www.squidoo.com/Youtube-Math-Tutors
 I think Gerald is right, we need a general way to help Sugar Teachers use
 YouTube resources.
 Can people help me brainstorm?
 Challenges to using YouTube Resources:

 YouTube is blocked by the district

Get someone else to download videos, and put them on the school
server, or provide them on USB keys.

 No internet access

As above. An alternative approach is to fund Internet access through
microfinance, taking advantage of the business opportunities that
Internet opens up.

 Bandwidth if everyone is watching a video at once

Collaboration should allow one XO to download, and share with others.
Otherwise, cache on server.

 Workflow/Classflow challenges how do we get the kids watching the video we
 want them to watch and doing the work before and after to make it a learning
 experience.

Lesson plans. Yes, we need thousands of lesson plans.

 Legal issues, what is and isn't fair use of the a YouTube resource?

Ask source to license under CC, or redo in a different version. The
ideas are not subject to copyright, just the expression of the ideas,
meaning words and images. Get children to make their own versions as
homework, once they understand Record, Scratch, and sufficient subject
matter.

 On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 7:53 PM, Gerald Ardito gerald.ard...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Caroline,

 Something else that may be worth considering is the development of an
 activity like Info Slicer, where teachers can provide annotations for the
 videos, and/or prompts for notes or reflections.

 Gerald

 On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 3:41 PM, Caroline Meeks solutiongr...@gmail.com
 wrote:


 On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 12:22 AM, Edward Cherlin echer...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Anybody know about this? I wonder whether he would be willing to let
 us adapt his materials to laptops.

 Good idea!  What ideas do you have about how we would adopt it?
 We could start by asking him if he would make them CC license. I'm
 traveling to the Bay Area next month. If we can get some good ideas I'm
 happy to maybe team up with Cherry take him out to coffee and ask.
 Caroline


 http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/north_america/jan-june10/khan_02-22.html
 Feb. 22, 2010
 Math Wiz Adds Web Tools to Take Education to New Limits

 --
 Edward Mokurai (默雷/धर्ममेघशब्दगर्ज/دھرممیگھشبدگر ج) Cherlin
 Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation.
 The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination.
 http://www.earthtreasury.org/
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Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation.
The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination.
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Re: [IAEP] Math on Web

2010-02-26 Thread Gerald Ardito
Caroline,

You do a good job outlining the problem.
Even with bandwidth, the Browse activity is just not that great (at least on
the XOs) for streaming video.

I am imagining some combination of teachers providing scaffolding or a
preview of some video(s), and then the students watching them from home (or
outside of the classroom) and then reflecting/having classroom discussions.

Gerald

On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 11:31 AM, Caroline Meeks carol...@solutiongrove.com
 wrote:

 Here is a page on 4 YouTube Math Tutors

 http://www.squidoo.com/Youtube-Math-Tutors

 I think Gerald is right, we need a general way to help Sugar Teachers use
 YouTube resources.

 Can people help me brainstorm?

 Challenges to using YouTube Resources:


1. YouTube is blocked by the district
2. No internet access
3. Bandwidth if everyone is watching a video at once
4. Workflow/Classflow challenges how do we get the kids watching the
video we want them to watch and doing the work before and after to make it 
 a
learning experience.
5. Legal issues, what is and isn't fair use of the a YouTube resource?


 On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 7:53 PM, Gerald Ardito gerald.ard...@gmail.comwrote:

 Caroline,

 Something else that may be worth considering is the development of an
 activity like Info Slicer, where teachers can provide annotations for the
 videos, and/or prompts for notes or reflections.

 Gerald


 On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 3:41 PM, Caroline Meeks 
 solutiongr...@gmail.comwrote:



 On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 12:22 AM, Edward Cherlin echer...@gmail.comwrote:

 Anybody know about this? I wonder whether he would be willing to let
 us adapt his materials to laptops.


 Good idea!  What ideas do you have about how we would adopt it?

 We could start by asking him if he would make them CC license. I'm
 traveling to the Bay Area next month. If we can get some good ideas I'm
 happy to maybe team up with Cherry take him out to coffee and ask.

 Caroline



 http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/north_america/jan-june10/khan_02-22.html
 Feb. 22, 2010
 Math Wiz Adds Web Tools to Take Education to New Limits

 --
 Edward Mokurai (默雷/धर्ममेघशब्दगर्ज/دھرممیگھشبدگر ج) Cherlin
 Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation.
 The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination.
 http://www.earthtreasury.org/
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Re: [IAEP] [FIELDBACK] Etoys

2010-02-26 Thread Gerald Ardito
Edward,

I know that my 5th graders who are using XOs and Sugar would love to
participate with you in this project.

Gerald

On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 11:58 AM, Edward Cherlin echer...@gmail.com wrote:

  I would also like to hear any such ideas. I am writing about
 exploring the XO and its software, to be followed by a teacher's guide
 that will show how to introduce everything that children cannot
 discover for themselves in dependency order, and a bite at a time,
 with appropriate reinforcement. I need all of the real-world
 information I can get about both problems and solutions.

 Then, of course, I will need people to try out what I write and tell
 me what's wrong with it. ^_^ I would particularly like to hear from
 children who have issues, and be able to discuss those issues with
 them.

 On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 01:42, Cherry Withers cwith...@ekindling.org
 wrote:
  Gerald,
 
  It's definitely a balancing act trying to get them to focus on finishing
 up
  something and getting them to explore. Once they realize that they
  can affect the object by scripts they just want to do everything they can
  possibly do in one sitting (dragging and dropping tiles in one script
 window
  ..then I'm in fire fighting mode). Too much resulted in chaos in my
 class.
  Not doing THAT again. I now give them some time to go nuts on exploration
  then pull them back in to finish a project. Now I'm introducing just a
 max
  of two concepts (or tiles) in one 40min. session.
 
  Kathleen Harness has really good lesson plans for teaching one concept at
 a
  time: www.etoysillionois.org
 
  I would like to hear more best practices/ideas, etc. for teaching Etoys
 in
  the classroom.
 
  Cheers,
  Cherry
 
  On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 4:13 PM, Gerald Ardito gerald.ard...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
  I agree. Watching the car script is fun for a while. But when they make
  their own first script, it is exciting each and every time.
 
  I also find that the students (I work with 10 year olds) get overwhelmed
  by the number of choices they have.
 
  Anyone else have that experience?
 
  Thanks.
  Gerald
 
  On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 7:11 PM, Cherry Withers cwith...@ekindling.org
 
  wrote:
 
  The very first time a child sees their object move with a simple
 forward
  script is always a magical moment for me and the kids. Never fails.
  Exploration and excitement explodes after that. I'm new to teaching
 Etoys as
  well. Definitely caught the bug. :-)
 
  On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 2:43 PM, Simon Schampijer si...@schampijer.de
 
  wrote:
 
  Hi,
 
  I am teaching on a regular basis in the Planetarium pilot in Berlin,
  Germany [1]. I have been using Etoys now for several weeks and here is
  some first feedback.
 
  First: The kids do like it a lot! I want to encourage everyone to
  include it in his curriculum.
 
  For example you can teach easily the concepts of the coordinate system
  with Etoys. You create an object and print out the X and Y values when
  moving it on the screen. Or you can use a joystick to alter the
 position
  of this object and use this method to deepen the coordinate system
  concept.
 
  Of course we did as well the famous car example. It was slightly
 changed
  in my class: A bug has to crawl a lane using one or two sensors to
 stay
  on the lane. A lot of interesting concepts to learn here, too
 (positive
  and negative numbers for example).
 
  And to bring this all together into a portfolio you can use the book
  tool (found in the treasure chest) to create a story including all
 your
  objects and games, pictures etc you created.
 
  I wrote down a few items I was missing when using the book tool and
  while doing so, I figured they were all there, just hidden by default.
 
  - resize all of the book not just one page
  - maybe that could be the default option?
  - duplicate a page
  - different background color
  - different sound when turning the page
 
  When you hit the little button at the far left you will get more
  options. And when you use the menu in the middle of the book toolbar
 you
  get all of these options and a lot of more. Just in case someone runs
 as
  well into this :)
 
  A few things that I came across, too:
  - German: When you drop the 'joystick up down' and 'joystick left
 right'
  option onto the world it will change to English. Not when you use it
 in
  a script though.
  - some buttons are hard to use: for example when you want to alter the
  behavior of the X value of an object (increase..). Those are hard to
  navigate. Or dropping options into the test script does not work as
  smooth.
 
  That's all for now - keep up the good work, team Etoys!.
 
  Thanks,
  Simon
 
  PS: Of course I am happy to turn items into bugs later. Just thought I
  give here a little summary first.
 
 
  [1] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Deployments/Planetarium
 
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Re: [IAEP] Drama / Theater in Sugar?

2010-02-26 Thread Walter Bender
On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 11:55 AM, Sebastian Silva
sebast...@fuentelibre.org wrote:
 Hello James,
 Thank you for your quick response.
 I have been navigating thru ASLO
 looking for something I could use or
 maybe base upon for building a play-reading
 activity, one that could be used perhaps to tell
 a story or sort of like a teleprompter,
 a help of memory, a more rich presentation
 than what could be achieved by displaying an
 e-Text...
 The closest thing I could find is perhaps
 to try and adapt and develop something
 on top of the excellent RenPy visual Novel
 Engine:
 http://www.renpy.org/wiki/renpy/Home_Page
 I'm thinking also of authoring capabilities
 for instance for cultural rescue (of native
 language, stories)...
 What do you think? Anybody on the
 list have similar ideas?

I could readily imagine building something in Etoys...

 Cheers!
 Sebastian
 2010/2/26 James Simmons nices...@gmail.com

 Project Gutenberg and the Internet Archive have plays in their
 collections.  You might try Read Etexts and Get Internet Archive Books
 to see what plays are available.  I think I've seen some plays in
 these collections that might be suitable for younger performers, and
 they would all be in the public domain.

 James Simmons

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Re: [IAEP] Drama / Theater in Sugar?

2010-02-26 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 18:02, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 11:55 AM, Sebastian Silva
 sebast...@fuentelibre.org wrote:
 Hello James,
 Thank you for your quick response.
 I have been navigating thru ASLO
 looking for something I could use or
 maybe base upon for building a play-reading
 activity, one that could be used perhaps to tell
 a story or sort of like a teleprompter,
 a help of memory, a more rich presentation
 than what could be achieved by displaying an
 e-Text...
 The closest thing I could find is perhaps
 to try and adapt and develop something
 on top of the excellent RenPy visual Novel
 Engine:
 http://www.renpy.org/wiki/renpy/Home_Page
 I'm thinking also of authoring capabilities
 for instance for cultural rescue (of native
 language, stories)...
 What do you think? Anybody on the
 list have similar ideas?

 I could readily imagine building something in Etoys...

And I bet TurtleArt ;)

Regards,

Tomeu

 Cheers!
 Sebastian
 2010/2/26 James Simmons nices...@gmail.com

 Project Gutenberg and the Internet Archive have plays in their
 collections.  You might try Read Etexts and Get Internet Archive Books
 to see what plays are available.  I think I've seen some plays in
 these collections that might be suitable for younger performers, and
 they would all be in the public domain.

 James Simmons

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Re: [IAEP] Math on Web

2010-02-26 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 17:57, Gerald Ardito gerald.ard...@gmail.com wrote:
 Caroline,

 You do a good job outlining the problem.
 Even with bandwidth, the Browse activity is just not that great (at least on
 the XOs) for streaming video.

An activity based on Grilo could be optimized for this use case:

http://blogs.igalia.com/itoral/2010/02/10/grilo/

Regards,

Tomeu

 I am imagining some combination of teachers providing scaffolding or a
 preview of some video(s), and then the students watching them from home (or
 outside of the classroom) and then reflecting/having classroom discussions.

 Gerald

 On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 11:31 AM, Caroline Meeks
 carol...@solutiongrove.com wrote:

 Here is a page on 4 YouTube Math Tutors
 http://www.squidoo.com/Youtube-Math-Tutors
 I think Gerald is right, we need a general way to help Sugar Teachers use
 YouTube resources.
 Can people help me brainstorm?
 Challenges to using YouTube Resources:

 YouTube is blocked by the district
 No internet access
 Bandwidth if everyone is watching a video at once
 Workflow/Classflow challenges how do we get the kids watching the video we
 want them to watch and doing the work before and after to make it a learning
 experience.
 Legal issues, what is and isn't fair use of the a YouTube resource?

 On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 7:53 PM, Gerald Ardito gerald.ard...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Caroline,

 Something else that may be worth considering is the development of an
 activity like Info Slicer, where teachers can provide annotations for the
 videos, and/or prompts for notes or reflections.

 Gerald

 On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 3:41 PM, Caroline Meeks solutiongr...@gmail.com
 wrote:


 On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 12:22 AM, Edward Cherlin echer...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Anybody know about this? I wonder whether he would be willing to let
 us adapt his materials to laptops.

 Good idea!  What ideas do you have about how we would adopt it?
 We could start by asking him if he would make them CC license. I'm
 traveling to the Bay Area next month. If we can get some good ideas I'm
 happy to maybe team up with Cherry take him out to coffee and ask.
 Caroline


 http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/north_america/jan-june10/khan_02-22.html
 Feb. 22, 2010
 Math Wiz Adds Web Tools to Take Education to New Limits

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Re: [IAEP] Finally trying Sugar

2010-02-26 Thread Sean DALY
Greetings Marilyn - that's very exciting!

We are eager to hear about what works ( doesn't); don't hesitate to
ask questions - there are teachers and techies here on the list!

Sean


On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 8:44 PM,  mari...@ourdyslexicchildren.org wrote:
 Hi there!

 Thanks to you all for your hard work.  I am a high school tech teacher in
 Texas.  I wasn't able to figure out how to put Sugar on a USB drive, but was
 able to burn it to a CD.  Now I have made copies for all of my students
 (115) plus a classroom set.  We are going to play with it in class for the
 next couple of weeks.  The students who have tried it already and my own
 children (8  10) are very excited about it.

 Creativity and collaboration.  Wow.  Hopefully we can explore all of the
 features.



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Re: [IAEP] Drama / Theater in Sugar?

2010-02-26 Thread James Simmons
Sebastian,

RenPy looks pretty cool.  Sugar does ship with PyGame and can play
audio in OGG format so making a Sugarized RenPy Activity might be
possible.  As Ed pointed out we have Text to Speech using espeak as
well.

I wrote a book called Make Your Own Sugar Activities!, available for
free at flossmanuals.net, which may be of use to you.  I haven't
written the PyGame chapter yet, but I'll be working on it next week
and I'll be sure to check out RenPy.  To use PyGame in an Activity you
can use a library called SugarGame.  That's supposed to make PyGame
and PyGTK work together.

There is also a project called Our Stories that may be of interest:

http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Our_Stories

James Simmons


On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 10:55 AM, Sebastian Silva
sebast...@fuentelibre.org wrote:
 Hello James,
 Thank you for your quick response.
 I have been navigating thru ASLO
 looking for something I could use or
 maybe base upon for building a play-reading
 activity, one that could be used perhaps to tell
 a story or sort of like a teleprompter,
 a help of memory, a more rich presentation
 than what could be achieved by displaying an
 e-Text...
 The closest thing I could find is perhaps
 to try and adapt and develop something
 on top of the excellent RenPy visual Novel
 Engine:
 http://www.renpy.org/wiki/renpy/Home_Page
 I'm thinking also of authoring capabilities
 for instance for cultural rescue (of native
 language, stories)...
 What do you think? Anybody on the
 list have similar ideas?
 Cheers!
 Sebastian
 2010/2/26 James Simmons nices...@gmail.com

 Project Gutenberg and the Internet Archive have plays in their
 collections.  You might try Read Etexts and Get Internet Archive Books
 to see what plays are available.  I think I've seen some plays in
 these collections that might be suitable for younger performers, and
 they would all be in the public domain.

 James Simmons

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Re: [IAEP] Drama / Theater in Sugar?

2010-02-26 Thread Cherry Withers
Hi Sebastian,

Copying Steve Thomas on this thread. He made an excellent project using
Etoys that may interest you:
http://www.squeakland.org/launcher/?http://www.squeakland.org/content/showcase/everyone/accounts/mrsteve/The%20Holder%20Episode%201.019.pr

You'll need to download the plug-in from:
http://www.squeakland.org/download/

If you decide on Etoys for this anyone from the education team at Squeakland
would be happy to help you out as well: educat...@squeakland.org

Cheers,
Cherry


On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 9:05 AM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@tomeuvizoso.net wrote:

 On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 18:02, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 11:55 AM, Sebastian Silva
  sebast...@fuentelibre.org wrote:
  Hello James,
  Thank you for your quick response.
  I have been navigating thru ASLO
  looking for something I could use or
  maybe base upon for building a play-reading
  activity, one that could be used perhaps to tell
  a story or sort of like a teleprompter,
  a help of memory, a more rich presentation
  than what could be achieved by displaying an
  e-Text...
  The closest thing I could find is perhaps
  to try and adapt and develop something
  on top of the excellent RenPy visual Novel
  Engine:
  http://www.renpy.org/wiki/renpy/Home_Page
  I'm thinking also of authoring capabilities
  for instance for cultural rescue (of native
  language, stories)...
  What do you think? Anybody on the
  list have similar ideas?
 
  I could readily imagine building something in Etoys...

 And I bet TurtleArt ;)

 Regards,

 Tomeu

  Cheers!
  Sebastian
  2010/2/26 James Simmons nices...@gmail.com
 
  Project Gutenberg and the Internet Archive have plays in their
  collections.  You might try Read Etexts and Get Internet Archive Books
  to see what plays are available.  I think I've seen some plays in
  these collections that might be suitable for younger performers, and
  they would all be in the public domain.
 
  James Simmons
 
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Re: [IAEP] Finally trying Sugar

2010-02-26 Thread Edward Cherlin
Thanks, Sebastian. Perhaps we can package Sugar on a Stick for USB in
various Linux distributions. The normal package installation process
can run a configuration script, which presumably could prompt the user
to insert a USB stick, warn about potential data loss, and verify the
size and format of the stick before installing. Jonas should know if
this will work.

On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 14:58, Sebastian Dziallas sebast...@when.com wrote:
 mari...@ourdyslexicchildren.org wrote:
 Hi there!

 Thanks to you all for your hard work. I am a high school tech teacher in
 Texas. I wasn't able to figure out how to put Sugar on a USB drive, but
 was able to burn it to a CD. Now I have made copies for all of my
 students (115) plus a classroom set. We are going to play with it in
 class for the next couple of weeks. The students who have tried it
 already and my own children (8  10) are very excited about it.

 Hi Marilyn,

 thanks a lot for your e-mail. Your project sounds awesome! :)

 I'm the engineering lead of Sugar on a Stick and would be very
 interested in hearing about your experiences to work on improving them.
 What you're saying is already a good indicator that we need to make it
 easier to put Sugar on a USB drive - for example, we're currently
 working on a Creation Kit for Sugar on a Stick.

 Please keep us all on this list posted!

 --Sebastian

 Creativity and collaboration. Wow. Hopefully we can explore all of the
 features.

 Marilyn :)
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Re: [IAEP] Turtle Art on Activities.sugarlabs.org

2010-02-26 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 19:08, David Farning dfarn...@gmail.com wrote:
 The other day during an infrastructure meeting, Walter brought up some
 thought on how to enable kids to exchange Turtle Art projects

 Alsroot has been thinking about how to do this through a.sl.o since he
 became the activities.sugarlabs.org code maintainer.

 The high level view is that someone can easily upload Turtle Art creations
 to somewhere and then they, or others, can go to a portal to download other
 Turtle Art creations.

 Client side, this would require:
 1. Adding a widget to either the journal or the TA activity to upload the TA
 Bundle.
 2. Adding a TA bundle installer to handler TA Bundle downloads.

 Server side, this would require:
 1. A place to accept TA bundle uploads.
 2. A search-able place from which to download TA bundles

 We have some similar systems we can look to as examples.
 1. Scratch -- Scratch has an upload button and users can download scratch
 projects from --  http://scratch.mit.edu/galleries/browse/newest
 2. ASLO --  Users upload XO bundles via a web interface and download via a
 web interface.

 My initial instinct is to see if ASLO can be adopted to fit this need.
 Primarily because we have it, it works, and it is scalable.  On the other
 hand, if the only tool in one's toolbox is a hammer, everything looks like a
 nail. (How is that for over using clichés and buzzword?)

What about Moodle instead?

When this has come in the past, I have recommended starting small and
growing one step at a time:

1. set up a webapp that can host user uploads,

2. change the input type=file tag to accept only .xoj bundles, make
Browse upload the bundle instead of just the file, make the webapp use
the metadata for displaying the title, comments, preview, etc.,

3. implement uploading of entries in the Sugar UI, if turns out it's needed.

I think a place for uploading and sharing Journal entries can bring a
lot of power to the Sugar ecosystem, but all tentatives in the past
have stalled because they wanted to start too big.

Regards,

Tomeu

 Considerations:
 ASLO rocks:)
 ASLO can be adapted to handle various file types.  For example:
 https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/browse/type:3
 https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/browse/type:2

 Each file type can have a separate look and feel.

 Is the activity creation and upload process too complicated for young users?

 Moving forward:
 Would it be possible to journal or TA widget which:
 1.  Walks the student though a upload wizard.
 2.  Combines the TA project into a into a bundle with the metadata generated
 in the wizard.
 3.  Sends the bundle to activites.sl.o/uploads

 Would it be possible to setup/adapt ASLO to:
 1. Handle TA files types.
 2. Accepts TA bundles+metadata uploads and inserts them into the review
 queue.

 david

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[IAEP] Fundraising for international deployments

2010-02-26 Thread David Han
Hi - I'm David Han.

I'm a student at Boston University. This summer, Anurag Goel (BU Engineering
2012) and I are running a Sugar on a Stick deployment in Delhi, India.

I know that some of you are also planning XO/Sugar deployments abroad. I'm
sure those of you who have done a XO/Sugar deployment abroad that
fundraising is not easy.

I think we can all help each other fund our deployments. I would like to get
in touch with everyone who is planning a deployment this year.

To start off, does anyone have any tips to for us to fund our deployment in
India?

Yours,
David
ds...@bu.edu

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Re: [IAEP] Finally trying Sugar

2010-02-26 Thread Jonas Smedegaard

Hi Edward, Sebastian and others,

On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 12:32:49PM -0500, Edward Cherlin wrote:
Thanks, Sebastian. Perhaps we can package Sugar on a Stick for USB in 
various Linux distributions. The normal package installation process 
can run a configuration script, which presumably could prompt the user 
to insert a USB stick, warn about potential data loss, and verify the 
size and format of the stick before installing. Jonas should know if 
this will work.


Sugar on a Stick is a distribution of its own, based on Fedora.

My expertise is in the Debian distribution (and derivations thereof).

True, Debian can be used to copy an alien system onto CD or a USB stick 
- but SoaS won't be accepted for shipping as part of Debian due to it 
being a big binary blob seen from Debian point of view.


Debian ships with several tools to burn ISOs to CD, if that's what you 
suggest.


Debian also ships with unetbootin to install alien systems onto USB 
sticks. Not sure if SoaS is supported there, however.


If what you suggest is to make a SoaS-like distribution derived from 
Debian, then sure that is possible. But we'd need to actually have a 
full core Sugar packaged for Debian first, in my opinion.



If you meant something else, I apologize: please clarify.



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[IAEP] NOW! Contributors Program Mtg (#olpc-meeting, 3:45PM Boston Time, Friday)

2010-02-26 Thread Holt
Please all join us right now reviewing the latest OLPC/Sugar community 
projects over IRC Live Chat:

http://forum.laptop.org/chat

Then type at bottom:
/join #olpc-meeting


AGENDA:

* XO-1.5 early production machines now available:
 
http://blog.laptop.org/2010/02/25/xo-1-5-early-production-laptops-free-to-contributors-worldwide/


* Fast Review of the 6 latest (greatest!) HW/Project Proposals -- please
 join us advocating for, and/or reviewing shortcomings of these proposals:

1. XO-1.5 for activities for development and testing - Thailand
2. XO-1.5 application and 2 Serials Adapters - Tuebingen, Germany
3. XO-1.5  XO-1's for SocialCalc, Newspaper Activity, Listen and 
Spell, Deducto, Color Deducto, Video Editor, Video Chat - New Delhi, 
India AND Uruguay; South Africa; Canada; Paraguay; Sri Lanka

4. XO-1.5 for for Jolicloud by Krim International - Paris, France
5. OLPC Learning Club DC / Sugar Labs DC Proposal to OLPC for XO 1.5 C2 
Machines
6. The Graham and Parks Alternative Public School with Waveplace.org - 
Cambridge, Massachusetts


* Which projects might you enjoy Mentoring below?!
 http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Projects
 http://rt.laptop.org/Search/Results.html?Query=Queue=%27contributors%27

* New projects  libraries -- teaching them Community Outreach:
 http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XO_Laptop_Lending_Libraries


1. XO-1.5 for activities for development and testing - Thailand
  http://rt.laptop.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=58119
  [SPECIFIC SITE NEEDS TO BE POSTED OFF 
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Projects ] 


  Requests 1 XO-1.5 over undetermined months

  Project Objectives:
  This was the game i had developed in 2007 so i want to develope similar
  academic activities for XO.


2. XO-1.5 application and 2 Serials Adapters - Tuebingen, Germany
  http://rt.laptop.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=58156
  http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Version_support_for_datastore
  http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
  http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
  http://bugs.sugarlabs.org
  http://dev.laptop.org
  [SPECIFIC SITE NEEDS TO BE POSTED OFF 
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Projects ]


  Requests 2 XO-1.5's and 2 Serial Adapters over undetermined months

  Project Objectives:
  Add version support to the Sugar data store. Since data store
  performance directly impacts user experience, direct testing on the
  XO-1.5 with the built-in MicroSD card (= slow write performance [5]
  in general, potentially write amplification effect) would be very
  useful.

  Additionally I'm -- as Bernie Innocenti phrased it --
  hacking all over the place, including kernel and hardware work. My
  offer to diagnose  repair XOs (keeping in mind that I don't have
  advanced equipment like a scope - got everything list for the
  Repair Center Kit [21], though) still holds as well.

  [5] http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/9688
  [21] http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Repair_Center_Kit


3. XO-1.5  XO-1's for SocialCalc, Newspaper Activity, Listen and Spell, 
Deducto, Color Deducto, Video Editor, Video Chat - New Delhi, India AND 
Uruguay; South Africa; Canada; Paraguay; Sri Lanka
  [SPECIFIC SITE NEEDS TO BE POSTED OFF 
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Projects ]


  Requests 4 XO1.5's and 4 XO-1's over 8 months

  Project Objectives:
  [CAPSULE SUMMARY NEEDED IN ADDITION TO...]
  http://seeta.in/wiki/index.php?title=SocialCalc_on_Sugar
  http://seeta.in/j/products/newspaper-activity.html
  http://seeta.in/wiki/index.php?title=Listen_Spell
  http://seeta.in/wiki/index.php?title=Deducto
  http://seeta.in/wiki/index.php?title=Color_Deducto
  http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Projects/VideoEditing
  http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Video_Chat
  http://seeta.in/j/products-and-services/37.html


4. XO-1.5 for for Jolicloud by Krim International - Paris, France
  http://rt.laptop.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=58248
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jolicloud
  [SPECIFIC SITE NEEDS TO BE POSTED OFF 
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Projects ]


  Requests 1 XO-1.5's over undetermined months

  Project Objectives:
  *Jolicloud* is a Linux http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux-based 
operating system http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operating_system that is 
currently in development
  and Pre-beta http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pre-beta testing. The 
project was founded in 2009 by Tariq Krim who is
  based in Paris, France.^[1] 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jolicloud#cite_note-Crunchbase_profile-0 
Jolicloud is built upon Debian and Ubuntu 9.10,

  but is tweaked to be more suitable for computers that have weaker
  specifications in terms of disk storage 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disk_storage, memory 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_memory and screen size.^[2] 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jolicloud#cite_note-Liliputing_Review-1 It is
  designed to run on relatively low-powered netbook 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netbook computers.^[3] 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jolicloud#cite_note-TechCrunch-2 Jolicloud

  relies heavily on Mozilla Prism-based packages for running web-based
  

Re: [IAEP] Drama / Theater in Sugar?

2010-02-26 Thread C. Scott Ananian
I've always thought that we should involve the camera activity, to
make it easier for kids to turn their stories into films.  Write the
script, film you and your friends performing it, and then edit it down
and share it.
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Re: [IAEP] Drama / Theater in Sugar?

2010-02-26 Thread Pato Acevedo


Hola Sebastian:

 Tal vez quieras probar scratch para contar historias 
interactivas:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_yaKT0zCd0

 También Etoys podría servir para tu propósito:

http://www.waveplace.com/resources/tutorials/movie.jsp?id=78

Saludos

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Re: [IAEP] Finally trying Sugar

2010-02-26 Thread Caryl Bigenho

Hi Marilyn,

Where are you in TX?  You might be interested in what the
New Tech High is doing with Sugar and an OLPC Contributors
Program project in Coppell TX (near DFW).  Here is a link
to their website:

http://newtechcoppell.org/New_Tech/Home.html 

Be sure to check their blog. A copy of their Contributors Program 
application is also in the site.

Caryl (retired teacher/OLPC-SugarLabs Support Volunteer)

Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2010 18:15:36 +0100
From: Sean DALY sdaly...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [IAEP] Finally trying Sugar
To: mari...@ourdyslexicchildren.org
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Greetings Marilyn - that's very exciting!
 
We are eager to hear about what works ( doesn't); don't hesitate to
ask questions - there are teachers and techies here on the list!
 
Sean
 
 
On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 8:44 PM,  mari...@ourdyslexicchildren.org wrote:
 Hi there!

 Thanks to you all for your hard work.  I am a high school tech teacher in
 Texas.  I wasn't able to figure out how to put Sugar on a USB drive, but was
 able to burn it to a CD.  Now I have made copies for all of my students
 (115) plus a classroom set.  We are going to play with it in class for the
 next couple of weeks.  The students who have tried it already and my own
 children (8  10) are very excited about it.

 Creativity and collaboration.  Wow.  Hopefully we can explore all of the
 features.



 Marilyn  :)

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Re: [IAEP] Drama / Theater in Sugar?

2010-02-26 Thread Caryl Bigenho

Hola Pato y Sebastian (e otros),

¿En sus opiniones, cual sería lo más facil usar para esto? ¿eToys o Scratch?

Carolina

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Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2010 21:00:50 +
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Hola Sebastian:

 Tal vez quieras probar scratch para contar historias 
interactivas:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_yaKT0zCd0

 También Etoys podría servir para tu propósito:

http://www.waveplace.com/resources/tutorials/movie.jsp?id=78

Saludos

Pato
  
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[IAEP] Girls in Open Source

2010-02-26 Thread Caryl Bigenho

Hi All...

Check this out!  I found the link on Twitter.  

I missed the girls session as I was involved in the OSSIE track and they were 
in the WIOS track.

Caryl
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Re: [IAEP] Drama / Theater in Sugar?

2010-02-26 Thread Pato Acevedo

Hi carolina:



  Solo considerando facilidad de uso la respuesta es Scratch. El 
problema es que se alcanza el techo muy rapido.
Por favor, revisa esta interesante link de Bill Kerr donde revisa este tópico.

http://billkerr2.blogspot.com/2008/03/low-floor-high-ceiling-or-low-floor.html

Pato Acevedo

In English:

Only considering ease of use, the answer is Scratch.
The problem is that the ceiling is reached very quickly.
Please check this interesting link from Bill Kerr which reviews this topic.

http://billkerr2.blogspot.com/2008/03/low-floor-high-ceiling-or-low-floor.html


Duck Acevedo
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Subject: RE: [IAEP] Drama / Theater in Sugar?
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2010 14:16:30 -0800








Hola Pato y Sebastian (e otros),

¿En sus opiniones, cual sería lo más facil usar para esto? ¿eToys o Scratch?

Carolina

From: patitoacev...@hotmail.com
To: sebast...@fuentelibre.org
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2010 21:00:50 +
CC: iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org
Subject: Re: [IAEP] Drama / Theater in Sugar?









Hola Sebastian:

 Tal vez quieras probar scratch para contar historias 
interactivas:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_yaKT0zCd0

 También Etoys podría servir para tu propósito:

http://www.waveplace.com/resources/tutorials/movie.jsp?id=78

Saludos

Pato
  
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