Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] meeting time?
On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 23:05, Walter Bender wrote: > I am just stepping off a plane in Asunción tomorrow morning at our > regular meeting time. Would 22UTC work instead? Too late for me, but will vote on the minutes. Regards, Tomeu > Regarding the agenda, I'm hoping we can vote on the outstanding TM requests: > > Colombia > Paraguay Educa > Argentina > Chile > Peru > DC > > -walter > > -- > Walter Bender > Sugar Labs > http://www.sugarlabs.org > ___ > SLOBs mailing list > sl...@lists.sugarlabs.org > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/slobs > ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] meeting time?
Not sure I can attend either at that late hour in my time zone... Sean On 6/18/10, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 23:05, Walter Bender wrote: > > I am just stepping off a plane in Asunción tomorrow morning at our > > regular meeting time. Would 22UTC work instead? > > > Too late for me, but will vote on the minutes. > > Regards, > > > Tomeu > > > > Regarding the agenda, I'm hoping we can vote on the outstanding TM > requests: > > > > Colombia > > Paraguay Educa > > Argentina > > Chile > > Peru > > DC > > > > -walter > > > > -- > > Walter Bender > > Sugar Labs > > http://www.sugarlabs.org > > ___ > > SLOBs mailing list > > sl...@lists.sugarlabs.org > > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/slobs > > > ___ > SLOBs mailing list > sl...@lists.sugarlabs.org > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/slobs > ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] RFC: F11-0.88 as a Sugar Labs Project
On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 05:20, Mel Chua wrote: > On 06/17/2010 10:28 PM, Bernie Innocenti wrote: >> At the next meeting, I would like to propose the Fedora 11 with Sugar >> 0.88 builds for the XO-1 and XO-1.5 as a new official project. >> >> It is sponsored jointly by Paraguay Educa and Activity Central, >> coordinated by me and hosted by the Sugar Labs infrastructure: >> >> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Deployment_Team/Sugar-0.88 >> http://people.sugarlabs.org/bernie/olpc/f11-xo1-0.88/ >> >> If the board approves, I will add a link to the sidebar, near Sugar on a >> Stick, and create a top-level homepage with content directed at users. >> >> I need help picking a pronounceable name, F11-0.88 is revolting. > > Posted to > http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Oversight_Board/Minutes#Agenda_items as a > motion, since all the links are public anyhow and the discussion will be > as well. As I have been saying since SLs foundation and specially when discussing about SoaS being a SLs project or not, I think SLs should be solely an upstream so all our downstreams feel that they are treated fairly. For example, OLPC is another valuable downstream of us and they are doing similar work for their machines and their customers. If F11-0.88 becomes an official project of SugarLabs, then OLPC may feel that their competing effort is being treated unfairly, thus hindering their involvement in SLs. That said, if OLPC says it's ok with it and we agree on this being a temporary measure until F11-0.x finds a definitive home, then I could vote positively (not that you are likely to need my vote on it). About the perfect, definitive home, how would it look like? A volunteer-run organization whose mission is to support OLPC and their deployments? I'm also worried because as SLs expands to cover more areas, it's going to become harder to keep the focus we need to grow. Regards, Tomeu > --Mel > ___ > IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) > IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep > ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Introduction: Researching Sugar Graphics
On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 21:02, JT Mengel wrote: > Hi! > My name's Scott 'JT' Mengel and I'm working at RIT on a research fellowship > along with David Silverman on graphics for constrained platforms, targeting > the Sugar OS on the XO laptop using Python. > Our work is focused on researching best practices for incorporating graphics > and animations with Python on the XO, as well as documenting the data and > methods used to collect it. Hi, what about input methods? Will your research also cover that and other UX aspects? Regards, Tomeu > Currently we have gathered a small amount of test data which we have > mentioned on our blogs; if you have any comments, suggestions, or want to > talk about our research, please feel free to contact me here at > jtmen...@gmail.com or track our blog entries (link below). > -Scott 'JT' Mengel > JT Mengel's blog > Dave Silverman's blog > ___ > IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) > IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep > ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] F11-0.88 os260py
On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 05:26, Bernie Innocenti wrote:
> This is the an interim release of Sugar 0.88 + GNOME series for XO-1.
> Please refer to this page for the current status and download
> instructions:
>
> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Deployment_Team/Sugar-0.88
>
>
> With this build, all the major regression relative to 0.84 are fixed.
> The switch to Metacity resulted in a few hard issues on Fedora 11. There
> are still several smaller bugs to work on.
>
> All the new features planned for this cycle are now merged, with the
> notable exception of collections support for the activity updater, which
> urgently needs a volunteer. At this point, it seems too late for the
> much anticipated resurrection of Rainbow. Maybe next time.
>
> There may still be time to merge and stabilize a couple of minor
> features, such as a button in the Network control panel to re-register
> with the schoolserver.
>
>
> == Changes relative to the previous release (os258py) ==
>
> * Integrate journal backup and restore to USB (esteban, tch)
>
> * Integrate function for mounting a GNOME Documents folder in
> the journal. Still presents some rough edges. (jasg)
>
> * Pull latest OS updates from upstream (fedora)
>
>
> == Bugs fixed in this release ==
>
> * Make ALT-TAB work. It was caused by a bug with XUngrabKey()
> in the old Xorg server of Fedora 11, but we worked it around
> in Metacity. We spent a lot of time to figure it out!
> (tch, bernie)
>
> * Fix windows staying in frame after startup. It turned out to be
> a libwnck bug, solved by upgrading it to a more recent version
> (aa, bernie)
Excellent integration work! Before, it used to be the upstream
developers who had to also debug on Fedora and sometimes on other
distros, and as you said, it often takes a lot of time.
It's great that this work has moved downstream!
> * Fix fonts too big in all activities. This was a fallout of us
> temporarily disabling sugar-settings-manager, due to another
> bug (jasg).
>
> * CTRL-C/CTRL-V don't work in Turtle Blocks
> (walter)
>
> * Sugar sometimes restart. My fault: I included in the build an
> experimental Geode driver to check if it would now be safe to
> re-enable some EXA acceleration. It wasn't. (bernie).
>
>
> == Known bugs ==
>
> We still have a bunch of less serious issues requiring attention:
>
> * Activity updater needs to support microformat and collections
>
> * Sometimes pulsing launch icon is delayed or absent (scheduling
> issue? Sometimes I can see Sugar eating up 50% of the CPU when
> starting an activity)
If you can reproduce it, it would be great to gather some profile data
during activity launch with this:
## Before launching ##
profiler = cProfile.Profile()
profiler.enable()
## After launch ##
profiler.disable()
profiler.dump_stats('/tmp/profile')
It should tell what's Sugar up to.
Cheers,
Tomeu
> * Font in Write is small and text does not fill the screen width.
> Sugar 0.82 and 0.84 used "Dejavu Sans", 0.88 uses "Times New Roman",
> which is smaller. (someone take it? pretty please?)
>
> * Disconnects from network on power save. This is a long-standing
> kernel bug. In 0.84, we "fixed" it by disabling power management.
>
> * Social Calc contains a race condition that makes it fail to
> start. Frankly, I would just ditch it, but teachers seem to like
> it very much
>
> * More GNOME lock-down. See the thread with subject "GNOME and
> protecting Sugar" on sugar-de...@.
>
> Thanks to anyone who could help us fixing these problems.
>
> --
> // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/
> \X/ Sugar Labs - http://sugarlabs.org/
>
>
>
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Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] RFC: F11-0.88 as a Sugar Labs Project
On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 10:20 PM, Mel Chua wrote: > On 06/17/2010 10:28 PM, Bernie Innocenti wrote: >> At the next meeting, I would like to propose the Fedora 11 with Sugar >> 0.88 builds for the XO-1 and XO-1.5 as a new official project. >> >> It is sponsored jointly by Paraguay Educa and Activity Central, >> coordinated by me and hosted by the Sugar Labs infrastructure: >> >> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Deployment_Team/Sugar-0.88 >> http://people.sugarlabs.org/bernie/olpc/f11-xo1-0.88/ >> >> If the board approves, I will add a link to the sidebar, near Sugar on a >> Stick, and create a top-level homepage with content directed at users. >> >> I need help picking a pronounceable name, F11-0.88 is revolting. > > Posted to > http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Oversight_Board/Minutes#Agenda_items as a > motion, since all the links are public anyhow and the discussion will be > as well. > I would encourage that F11-S0.88 _not_ become an official Sugar Labs at this time. My biggest concern is maintenance responsible. If the project becomes an official project, Sugar Labs has an implied maintenance responsibility. If F11-S0.88 sucks, it will cast a long shadow on the upstream project Sugar Labs not the downstream project where that shadow belongs. On the other hand, if Sugar Labs would like to assume maintenance responsibility they are welcome to roll the project into SL. david ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] RIT Prof Intro.
Howdy folks, Mel pointed me to this list. I've been running the efforts at RIT for the past 18+ months. Rather than fill your e-mailboxes up, take a quick peek at this blogpost to see what's been going on... http://gryphonscratches.blogspot.com/2010/06/posse-fossrit-list.html Stephen Jacobs Associate Professor Interactive Games and Media Rochester Institute of Technology 102 Lomb Memorial Drive Bldg 70 Rochester, NY 14618 s...@mail.rit.edu 585-475-7803 What follows is a required public service announcement from my university ;-) CONFIDENTIALITY NOTE: The information transmitted, including attachments, is intended only for the person(s) or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and destroy any copies of this information. ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] ANNOUNCE: F11 for XO-1 build 180py released
On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 5:13 AM, Bernie Innocenti wrote: > This is a late announcement of the final release of the XO-1 > images based on Fedora 11 and Sugar 0.84: > > http://people.sugarlabs.org/bernie/olpc/f11-xo1-py/os180py.img > http://people.sugarlabs.org/bernie/olpc/f11-xo1-py/os180py.crc > http://people.sugarlabs.org/bernie/olpc/f11-xo1-py/os180py.img.fs.zip > > > This build is being deployed to 10 schools in Caacupé [1]. Feedback from > teachers and teacher trainers has been very positive so far. > > > == Changes relative to the previous release (os140py) == > > * GSM broadband support: add usb_modeswitch and usb_modeswitch-data, > enabling more modem models to work with Fedora 11. (me) > > * Credit Sugar Labs in boot animation (me) > > * Add custom Browse home page with links to Paraguay Educa resources (rgs) > > * Update Turtle Art to pick Spanish translation (walter) > > * Re-enable olpc-update and the versioned fs (me) > > * Point software update control panel at http://wiki.paraguayeduca.org > > * Pull latest OS updates from upstream (fedora) > > > == Bugs fixed == > > * Race condition with name widget in the activity toolbar > http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/1948 > > * Some activities crashing when resuming from the Journal > http://patchwork.sugarlabs.org/patch/15/ > > > == Known bugs == > > * Unable to read FAT filesystems containing invalid file dates > http://patchwork.sugarlabs.org/patch/43/ > > > == How to help testing == > > Feedback from the entire community is very appreciated, although we're > not planning any further releases of the Sugar 0.84 series. > > Bugs affecting upstream components are better filed in their respective > trackers: > > * Sugar and activities: http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ > * Fedora 11: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/ > * Drivers and OLPC customizations: http://dev.laptop.org/ > * Paraguay-specific bugs: http://trac.paraguayeduca.org/ > > If you're unsure where a bug belongs to, use the Paragauy Educa tracker. > Please, always assign these bugs to "Carlos", who will keep our status > summary updated. > > > == Using this build outside Paraguay == > > A few customizations make this image somewhat Paraguay-specific: > > * Limited language support: to save space, we've included only > English and Spanish translations. > > * Image signed with the Paraguay deployment keys. Laptops from other > regions need to be be unlocked in order to accept this image. > > * The software update control panel icon checks for new activities > on our wiki rather than on laptop.org. > > * The Browse home page contains the Paraguay Educa logo and a few > links to our website. > > We may find the time to release slightly modified images to meet the > needs of other OLPC deployments interested in upgrading to Sugar 0.84. > > More importantly, we're happy to help other deployments produce their > own OS images independently of us, thus exploiting Free Software's most > important advantage [2]. > > > == How to join development == > > This development cycle is closed as a new development cycle based on > Sugar 0.88 has started already. Public builds will be available soon. > > Build system source: > http://git.paraguayeduca.org/gitweb/users/bernie/olpc-os-builder.git > > Yum Repository containing our custom RPMs (along with sources): > http://repo.paraguayeduca.org/f11-xo1-py/i386/os/ > http://people.sugarlabs.org/bernie/olpc/pyeduca-repo/f11-xo1-py/ > > IRC: > #olpc-paraguay irc.feenode.net (English spoken) > > > [1] The actual production build is os179py. The only difference between > os179py and os180py is improved compatibility with GSM modems. > > [2] Freedom 1: The freedom to study how the program works, and change > it to make it do what you wish. > > -- > // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/ > \X/ Sugar Labs - http://sugarlabs.org/ > > > ___ > IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) > IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep How do I install this image? I tried the USB method on a XO1 with dev key and security disabled, but it still complains about not finding the right keys. Sameer -- Dr. Sameer Verma, Ph.D. Associate Professor, Information Systems Director, Campus Business Solutions San Francisco State University http://verma.sfsu.edu/ http://opensource.sfsu.edu/ http://cbs.sfsu.edu/ http://is.sfsu.edu/ ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] RFC: F11-0.88 as a Sugar Labs Project
On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 1:17 PM, David Farning wrote: > On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 10:20 PM, Mel Chua wrote: >> On 06/17/2010 10:28 PM, Bernie Innocenti wrote: >>> At the next meeting, I would like to propose the Fedora 11 with Sugar >>> 0.88 builds for the XO-1 and XO-1.5 as a new official project. >>> >>> It is sponsored jointly by Paraguay Educa and Activity Central, >>> coordinated by me and hosted by the Sugar Labs infrastructure: >>> >>> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Deployment_Team/Sugar-0.88 >>> http://people.sugarlabs.org/bernie/olpc/f11-xo1-0.88/ >>> >>> If the board approves, I will add a link to the sidebar, near Sugar on a >>> Stick, and create a top-level homepage with content directed at users. >>> >>> I need help picking a pronounceable name, F11-0.88 is revolting. >> >> Posted to >> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Oversight_Board/Minutes#Agenda_items as a >> motion, since all the links are public anyhow and the discussion will be >> as well. >> > > I would encourage that F11-S0.88 _not_ become an official Sugar Labs > at this time. My biggest concern is maintenance responsible. If the > project becomes an official project, Sugar Labs has an implied > maintenance responsibility. If F11-S0.88 sucks, it will cast a long > shadow on the upstream project Sugar Labs not the downstream project > where that shadow belongs. > > On the other hand, if Sugar Labs would like to assume maintenance > responsibility they are welcome to roll the project into SL. I agree with your points above. With Fedora 11 having days left of upstream support we're going back down the road of Fedora 7 OLPC style forks which it was my understanding due to the lack of people paid to support it Sugar Labs as a whole wanted to get away from that. Peter ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] Register for FOSSed 2010 TODAY! It's going to be AWESOME!
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Re: [IAEP] ANNOUNCE: F11 for XO-1 build 180py released
El Fri, 18-06-2010 a las 18:24 +, Sameer Verma escribió: > How do I install this image? I tried the USB method on a XO1 with dev > key and security disabled, but it still complains about not finding > the right keys. Are you pressing the four game keys together? This triggers a secure update through fs.zip. On unlocked laptops, all you need to do is drop into the Open Firmware "ok" prompt and type: copy-nand u:\os180py.img -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/ \X/ Sugar Labs - http://sugarlabs.org/ ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] ANNOUNCE: F11 for XO-1 build 180py released
On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 5:42 PM, Bernie Innocenti wrote: > El Fri, 18-06-2010 a las 18:24 +, Sameer Verma escribió: > >> How do I install this image? I tried the USB method on a XO1 with dev >> key and security disabled, but it still complains about not finding >> the right keys. > > Are you pressing the four game keys together? This triggers a secure > update through fs.zip. > Yes. > On unlocked laptops, all you need to do is drop into the Open Firmware > "ok" prompt and type: > > copy-nand u:\os180py.img Got it. Its writing right now. If we have a wiki page for the py images, this tip would be helpful. Sameer > > -- > // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/ > \X/ Sugar Labs - http://sugarlabs.org/ > > ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
