[IAEP] Software Freedom Day 2010.09.18

2010-08-02 Thread Kevin Cole 
Hi,

For those of you looking for an excuse to promote Sugar and other FOSS
projects, you may want to think about doing something for Software
Freedom Day... Details at http://softwarefreedomday.org/

(In DC, we mung the date a bit, because there's a big folk festival
six days prior to SFD.  So we have our SFD event at the Takoma Park
Folk Festival (http://tpff.org/) on September 12th instead.)
-- 
Kevin Cole
Sugar Labs DC
Washington, DC
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Re: [IAEP] "Make Your Own Sugar Activities!" is on Lulu

2010-08-02 Thread Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero 
It would be very nice to have this on Spanish!.

Rafael Ortiz



On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 8:15 AM, Tomeu Vizoso  wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 15:07, James Simmons  wrote:
>> Tomeu,
>>
>> In the FLOSS Manuals world anyone who wants to do a translation of any
>> FM book may do so.  I'm not capable of doing a translation myself, but
>> if anyone was interested all he would have to do would be to request a
>> Spanish version to be set up by asking for it on the FM mailing list,
>> then start working on it.  Anyone signed up with FM may edit any book,
>> just like with a Wiki.  Only setting up a new book requires admin
>> help, and I think the new Booki software that FM will use soon will
>> eliminate even that requirement.
>>
>> FM is set up to encourage this kind of thing, and believe me if anyone
>> wanted to do a Spanish translation I'd be tickled to death.  So no
>> "plans", but none are really needed in this case.
>
> Well, guess that somebody needs to announce this manual in the
> spanish-speaking lists and propose the translation effort? Maybe one
> of our fellow hackers from SA?
>
> Regards,
>
> Tomeu
>
>> James Simmons
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 7:56 AM, Tomeu Vizoso  wrote:
>>> On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 06:35, James Simmons  wrote:
 My FLOSS Manual "Make Your Own Sugar Activities!" made it to Lulu.com:

 http://www.lulu.com/product/paperback/make-your-own-sugar-activities/12047878

 FLOSS Manuals get the profits for book sales, not me, but I thought
 you'd all like to know it's available.
>>>
>>> Any plans on translating it to Spanish? That's how I would expect it
>>> to reach much bigger impact. I think several people in the olpc-sur
>>> would be interested in helping out.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Tomeu
>>>
 James Simmons
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Re: [IAEP] "Make Your Own Sugar Activities!" is on Lulu

2010-08-02 Thread Caryl Bigenho 

Hi...
If some one will take care of getting it set up, I will be happy to help with 
the translations and try to recruit some of my bilingual friends to help. It 
may all take a while, but let's get the "ball rolling!"
Caryl (aka Carolina, aka SweetXOGrannie

> From: raf...@sugarlabs.org
> Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2010 11:35:11 -0500
> To: to...@sugarlabs.org
> CC: webch...@invisible.net; sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org; 
> scotty...@gmail.com; sarah.gladst...@walgreens.com; anshu.ga...@gmail.com; 
> nices...@gmail.com; iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org
> Subject: Re: [IAEP] "Make Your Own Sugar Activities!" is on Lulu
> 
> It would be very nice to have this on Spanish!.
> 
> Rafael Ortiz
> 
> 
> 
> On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 8:15 AM, Tomeu Vizoso  wrote:
> > On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 15:07, James Simmons  wrote:
> >> Tomeu,
> >>
> >> In the FLOSS Manuals world anyone who wants to do a translation of any
> >> FM book may do so.  I'm not capable of doing a translation myself, but
> >> if anyone was interested all he would have to do would be to request a
> >> Spanish version to be set up by asking for it on the FM mailing list,
> >> then start working on it.  Anyone signed up with FM may edit any book,
> >> just like with a Wiki.  Only setting up a new book requires admin
> >> help, and I think the new Booki software that FM will use soon will
> >> eliminate even that requirement.
> >>
> >> FM is set up to encourage this kind of thing, and believe me if anyone
> >> wanted to do a Spanish translation I'd be tickled to death.  So no
> >> "plans", but none are really needed in this case.
> >
> > Well, guess that somebody needs to announce this manual in the
> > spanish-speaking lists and propose the translation effort? Maybe one
> > of our fellow hackers from SA?
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Tomeu
> >
> >> James Simmons
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 7:56 AM, Tomeu Vizoso  wrote:
> >>> On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 06:35, James Simmons  wrote:
>  My FLOSS Manual "Make Your Own Sugar Activities!" made it to Lulu.com:
> 
>  http://www.lulu.com/product/paperback/make-your-own-sugar-activities/12047878
> 
>  FLOSS Manuals get the profits for book sales, not me, but I thought
>  you'd all like to know it's available.
> >>>
> >>> Any plans on translating it to Spanish? That's how I would expect it
> >>> to reach much bigger impact. I think several people in the olpc-sur
> >>> would be interested in helping out.
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>>
> >>> Tomeu
> >>>
>  James Simmons
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Re: [IAEP] "Make Your Own Sugar Activities!" is on Lulu

2010-08-02 Thread Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero 
On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 3:19 PM,   wrote:
> You might want to consider using Google Translate as a starting point, and
> then cleaning up the translation.
>
> Anshu


I've seen great progress on google translator, nonetheless i still
recomend to do a fresh translation up from the start.
it's still in my opinion not so time consuming.



> On Aug 2, 2010 2:37pm, Caryl Bigenho  wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi...
>>
>> If some one will take care of getting it set up, I will be happy to help
>> with the translations and try to recruit some of my bilingual friends to
>> help. It may all take a while, but let's get the "ball rolling!"
>>
>>
>> Caryl (aka Carolina, aka SweetXOGrannie
>>
>> > From: raf...@sugarlabs.org
>> > Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2010 11:35:11 -0500
>> > To: to...@sugarlabs.org
>> > CC: webch...@invisible.net; sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org;
>> > scotty...@gmail.com; sarah.gladst...@walgreens.com; anshu.ga...@gmail.com;
>> > nices...@gmail.com; iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org
>> > Subject: Re: [IAEP] "Make Your Own Sugar Activities!" is on Lulu
>> >
>> > It would be very nice to have this on Spanish!.
>> >
>> > Rafael Ortiz
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 8:15 AM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org> wrote:
>> > > On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 15:07, James Simmons nices...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >> Tomeu,
>> > >>
>> > >> In the FLOSS Manuals world anyone who wants to do a translation of
>> > >> any
>> > >> FM book may do so.  I'm not capable of doing a translation myself,
>> > >> but
>> > >> if anyone was interested all he would have to do would be to request
>> > >> a
>> > >> Spanish version to be set up by asking for it on the FM mailing list,
>> > >> then start working on it.  Anyone signed up with FM may edit any
>> > >> book,
>> > >> just like with a Wiki.  Only setting up a new book requires admin
>> > >> help, and I think the new Booki software that FM will use soon will
>> > >> eliminate even that requirement.
>> > >>
>> > >> FM is set up to encourage this kind of thing, and believe me if
>> > >> anyone
>> > >> wanted to do a Spanish translation I'd be tickled to death.  So no
>> > >> "plans", but none are really needed in this case.
>> > >
>> > > Well, guess that somebody needs to announce this manual in the
>> > > spanish-speaking lists and propose the translation effort? Maybe one
>> > > of our fellow hackers from SA?
>> > >
>> > > Regards,
>> > >
>> > > Tomeu
>> > >
>> > >> James Simmons
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 7:56 AM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org>
>> > >> wrote:
>> > >>> On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 06:35, James Simmons nices...@gmail.com>
>> > >>> wrote:
>> >  My FLOSS Manual "Make Your Own Sugar Activities!" made it to
>> >  Lulu.com:
>> > 
>> > 
>> >  http://www.lulu.com/product/paperback/make-your-own-sugar-activities/12047878
>> > 
>> >  FLOSS Manuals get the profits for book sales, not me, but I thought
>> >  you'd all like to know it's available.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Any plans on translating it to Spanish? That's how I would expect it
>> > >>> to reach much bigger impact. I think several people in the olpc-sur
>> > >>> would be interested in helping out.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Regards,
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Tomeu
>> > >>>
>> >  James Simmons
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Re: [IAEP] Looking for suggestions

2010-08-02 Thread James Simmons 
Brett,

You might want to check out a couple of FLOSS Manuals I put together.
The first one is finished, and is about developing Sugar Activities.
The second is in progress and is about finding, using, creating and
publishing e-books.

http://en.flossmanuals.net/ActivitiesGuideSugar/Introduction

http://en.flossmanuals.net/ReadingandSugar/Introduction

Personally I think that Sugar is suited to high school students, and
could be made more so with a bit of work on the Journal.  My Activity
Sugar Commander shows some ideas of what a more grown-up version of
the Journal might be like.

The new XOs will ship with both Sugar and GNOME, a desktop environment
like Windows but without the viruses.  This should make them quite
appealing to older students.

If you learn how to make e-books as described in the second book you
can use them on several different platforms, including those cheap
Android tablets that are coming out.  There are lots of free e-books,
many of which would be of interest to high school students.

Let me know what you think.

James Simmons


> Date: Sun, 1 Aug 2010 18:50:18 -0500
> From: Brett Neese 
> Subject: [IAEP] Looking for suggestions
> To: iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org, olpc-o...@lists.laptop.org,
>        grassro...@lists.laptop.org
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> Hi there,
>
> I'm looking for some advice. My name is Brett Neese, and I'm currently a
> high school student at a school in Iowa, USA (although I'm planning on
> graduating early in December 2010). I have been working on a little project
> (in its current incarnation, it's more of an idea, really) I'm dubbing
> Project coEL. See, the OLPC project is great -- I think what you are doing
> in developing countries is terrific; I commend your efforts to bring
> computing to the poorest children in the world -- but in my opinion there
> are a few flaws; namely the fact that most developed countries, such as the
> US, don't currently have a large-scale XO deployment. While I understand
> that the need for these laptops in developing countries is MUCH greater than
> it is in the US (and I'm not trying to sound like greedy, rich, American or
> anything, either) , I also know from being a high-school student myself
> (albeit one with some learning difficulties) that the US needs some of this
> type of technology as well, especially for others who, like me, sometimes
> have trouble learning. My other issue is the fact that currently the Sugar
> user experience is in no way optimized for the high school learner. I think,
> from my experience, that if deployed in the US, the high school/secondary
> school student could benefit the most from this sort of technology and it
> could trickle down to the elementary level but, at present, the UX is
> not optimized for the way teachers teach and students learn in today's
> world.
>
> So those are my problems with OLPC. However, I don't think these issues are
> such in that we can't work together, either now or in the future. My overall
> "vision" for coEL is to bring a specially-designed hardware and software
> ecosystem to every high school in the US. You can read more about the
> overall vision in coEL's blog -- it's at http://projectcoel.tumblr.com/
> -- but in short it's a specially designed
> open-source laptop in the hand of every highschooler, along with the
> appropriate backend server and other hardware, a highly open and extensible
> API/SDK -- many of the same technological goals as the XO laptop -- which I
> why I'm asking for your help. You have great hardware, I'd love to build off
> of it, but in my opinion, your software is lacking, though with the XO-3
> concepts floating around, and your recent partnership with Marvell, its only
> going to get better.
>
> I'll be honest, I don't program. I don't know anything about hardware R&D,
> nor know anything about education at an administrative level. I?m just a
> 17-year-old high school student who, quite frankly, hates school and wants
> to make a difference in the world. I do, however, know a little bit about
> design; I interned at a mobile UX agency last year.
>
> But, in general, what I'm asking you, OLPC staff and volunteers, is this --
> what can we do, together, to help make this vision become reality?
>
> More specifically, I want to start a grassroots effort, but I'm not quite
> sure where to go from here.  Should I apply to the contributors program?
> Start a regional group? How? Participate in the IRC chatrooms? Edit the
> wiki? Any other suggestions/advice?
>
> In closing, I just wanted to thank you for reading this email. I realize its
> a little lengthy, and greatly appreciate your time. Please forgive me if I'm
> speaking out-of-turn here, and excuse me if I sent this to the wrong lists
> -- please forward this message on to the relevant lists if that is the case.
>
> Again, thanks so much,
>
> Brett Neese

Re: [IAEP] Looking for suggestions

2010-08-02 Thread Tim McNamara 
Brett

On 2 August 2010 16:33, Christoph Derndorfer
wrote:

> Given that you seem to have some UX experience it might also be a good
> idea to sit down and sketch some of the ideas you have in terms of the
> UI. That would (a) be good material for your blog and (b) would give
> people a better idea of what you have in mind when saying "the Sugar
> user experience is in no way optimized for the high school learner".
>

+1

I'm really interested in what you think a Sugar for high school aged youth
would look like.

One thing that OLPC spent a lot of time on was the Human Interface
Guidelines. Some things have slipped, Sugar is moving away from integer
activity numbers & only using verbs to describe activities, but on the whole
it's a very good read.

http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC_Human_Interface_Guidelines
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Re: [IAEP] Looking for suggestions

2010-08-02 Thread Frederick Grose 
On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 10:46 PM, Tim McNamara
wrote:

>
> {...}
>


I'm really interested in what you think a Sugar for high school aged youth
> would look like.
>
> One thing that OLPC spent a lot of time on was the Human Interface
> Guidelines. Some things have slipped, Sugar is moving away from integer
> activity numbers & only using verbs to describe activities, but on the whole
> it's a very good read.
>
> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC_Human_Interface_Guidelines
>

Please reference http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Human_Interface_Guidelines; this
is the canonical copy, and includes a few updates.

Jim's suggestions on reviewing his Floss manuals,

http://en.flossmanuals.net/ActivitiesGuideSugar/Introduction

http://en.flossmanuals.net/ReadingandSugar/Introduction

are also good places to start.

  --Fred
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