Re: [IAEP] africa labs

2010-10-25 Thread Arjun Sarwal
I think Bernie might be able to help share with whats going on at Mozambique

-Arjun

On Sun, Oct 24, 2010 at 10:32 PM, roberto robert...@gmail.com wrote:

 hello,
 do you know who is spreading sugar throughout Africa, at the moment (if
 any) ?
 i'd like to understand how it is going down there, especially as far
 as regards power supply issues

 thank you
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[IAEP] [SLOBS] meeting reminder: Tuesday, 26 October

2010-10-25 Thread Walter Bender
We will be having a Sugar Oversight Board meeting at 11 EST (15 UTC).
Please join us in a discussion of the current status of the project.

regards.

-walter

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Re: [IAEP] africa labs

2010-10-25 Thread Frits Hoff

Hi Roberto,

our Dutch foundation OpenWijs.nl has some small projects in Africa
http://www.openwijs.nl/referenties/olpc

I hope you can translate the pages with Google translate :)

with kind regards,

Frits Hoff

Op 24-10-2010 19:02, roberto schreef:

hello,
do you know who is spreading sugar throughout Africa, at the moment (if any) ?
i'd like to understand how it is going down there, especially as far
as regards power supply issues

thank you




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[IAEP] Sugar Oversight Board meeting

2010-10-25 Thread Patricia Curtis
Hi
  Regarding the Sugar Oversight Board meeting at 11 EST,  Is that a
sit down meeting or over the internet (skype, irc etc)?

Can anyone sit in to find out what the current state is?

If not will you publish the minutes?

Trish
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Re: [IAEP] Sugar Oversight Board meeting

2010-10-25 Thread Walter Bender
On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 12:15 PM, Patricia Curtis
patricia.cur...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi
  Regarding the Sugar Oversight Board meeting at 11 EST,  Is that a
 sit down meeting or over the internet (skype, irc etc)?

Sorry. I usually include these additional items in my meeting announcements:

We meet in IRC (irc.freenode.net #sugar-meeting). The meeting is
public. Minutes and logs are kept in the wiki:
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Oversight_Board/Minutes

-walter


 Can anyone sit in to find out what the current state is?

 If not will you publish the minutes?

 Trish
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Re: [IAEP] africa labs

2010-10-25 Thread roberto
thank you very much, i'll check the wiki again and keep in touch with
people directly involved there

On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 6:14 AM, Edward Cherlin echer...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Sun, Oct 24, 2010 at 13:02, roberto robert...@gmail.com wrote:
 hello,
 do you know who is spreading sugar throughout Africa, at the moment (if any) 
 ?

 I know what is on the deployments page.

 http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Deployments#Deployment_data
 Rwanda
 Nigeria
 Ethiopia
 Ghana
 South Africa

 and on the interactive map

 http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?f=qhl=engeocode=time=date=ttype=ie=UTF8cd=1om=1msa=0msid=107887635573341686661.00045a8f74844ef1681f8ll=7.710992,11.25spn=136.959067,316.40625z=2

 including those listed above plus

 Mozambique
 Mali
 Kenya
 Cameroon
 Uganda


 i'd like to understand how it is going down there, especially as far
 as regards power supply issues

 Do you mean the XO battery packs, power consumption under various
 loads, battery life, recharging time, the wall plug, gang rechargers,
 mains power, renewable power,...? Many of these questions are also
 answered in the Wiki.


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[IAEP] Moving forward.

2010-10-25 Thread David Farning
Yesterday I sent a rather blunt email on my concerns about the
project.  It seems the observations resonated with many people while
striking several nerves.  The volume of private mail or CCed mail (to
a subset of the Sugar Labs participants) responses was unexpectedly
high.

The five main themes of the responses are:
1. Could you possibility be any more abstract?
2. Several of the points are valid.  Here are my
responses/suggestions. This should be on a public thread, but someone
else will have to start it.
3. The core problem is trust.
4. This conversation is like an iceberg, the 'community' only sees
10% and not the other 90%.
5. Dave you are just a jerk, now shut up.

For better of worse, all five points are valid.  I am a bumbling jerk
who is struggling to rebuild community trust without airing anyone's
dirty laundry, including my own.

To put all of my cards on the table:
1. The ideas driving OLPC and Sugar are sound.
2. Sugar Labs will continue to fragment until the issue of trust is resolved.
3. Because of this, I left Sugar Labs to start a business which
provides service and support for Sugar.
4. I need Sugar to succeed. I need OLPC to succeed.
5. I have been trying to operate 'under the radar' because some in
Sugar Labs and OLPC have contacted individuals I am working with and
'suggested' that they not work with me.

Talk about the pot calling the kettle black.  I get pissed off about
the lack of trust and community building in Sugar Labs, so I go off
and form a fork which operates largely in secret.

Two years ago, I suggested that the over sight board appoint Walter
Bender as Executive Director of Sugar Labs so he would be able to
speak on behalf of Sugar Labs.  He had three skills which Sugar Labs
needed. 1) He was able to clearly and effectively communicate the
goals of Sugar and the mission of Sugar Labs. 2) He was able to create
an identity for Sugar Labs outside of OLPC. 3) He was a tireless
advocate for Sugar.  In the past two years Sugar Labs has progressed,
largely because of Walter.  The goal of sugar and Sugar labs is well
understood. Sugar Labs has a clear identity.

Now, Sugar Labs has different needs; pragmatic bridge building between
individuals and organization.  It is time to look for someone with
those particular skill to lead/herd Sugar Labs forward.  As such I
would like to recommend that SLOB ask and appoint Adam Holt as the
next Executive Director of Sugar Labs.

david
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Re: [IAEP] africa labs

2010-10-25 Thread Bernie Innocenti
On Mon, 2010-10-25 at 12:50 +0530, Arjun Sarwal wrote:
 I think Bernie might be able to help share with whats going on at
 Mozambique

Mozambique is just starting out with 3000 laptops:

 http://codewiz.org/wiki/blog/2010/10#fri-oct-15--first-classroom-sessions

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Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Moving forward.

2010-10-25 Thread Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero
Hi David and all.



On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 7:30 PM, David Farning dfarn...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yesterday I sent a rather blunt email on my concerns about the
 project.  It seems the observations resonated with many people while
 striking several nerves.  The volume of private mail or CCed mail (to
 a subset of the Sugar Labs participants) responses was unexpectedly
 high.

 The five main themes of the responses are:
 1. Could you possibility be any more abstract?
 2. Several of the points are valid.  Here are my
 responses/suggestions. This should be on a public thread, but someone
 else will have to start it.
 3. The core problem is trust.
 4. This conversation is like an iceberg, the 'community' only sees
 10% and not the other 90%.
 5. Dave you are just a jerk, now shut up.

 For better of worse, all five points are valid.  I am a bumbling jerk
 who is struggling to rebuild community trust without airing anyone's
 dirty laundry, including my own.

 To put all of my cards on the table:
 1. The ideas driving OLPC and Sugar are sound.
 2. Sugar Labs will continue to fragment until the issue of trust is
 resolved.
 3. Because of this, I left Sugar Labs to start a business which
 provides service and support for Sugar.
 4. I need Sugar to succeed. I need OLPC to succeed.
 5. I have been trying to operate 'under the radar' because some in
 Sugar Labs and OLPC have contacted individuals I am working with and
 'suggested' that they not work with me.

 Talk about the pot calling the kettle black.  I get pissed off about
 the lack of trust and community building in Sugar Labs, so I go off
 and form a fork which operates largely in secret.

 Two years ago, I suggested that the over sight board appoint Walter
 Bender as Executive Director of Sugar Labs so he would be able to
 speak on behalf of Sugar Labs.  He had three skills which Sugar Labs
 needed. 1) He was able to clearly and effectively communicate the
 goals of Sugar and the mission of Sugar Labs. 2) He was able to create
 an identity for Sugar Labs outside of OLPC. 3) He was a tireless
 advocate for Sugar.  In the past two years Sugar Labs has progressed,
 largely because of Walter.  The goal of sugar and Sugar labs is well
 understood. Sugar Labs has a clear identity.

 Now, Sugar Labs has different needs; pragmatic bridge building between
 individuals and organization.  It is time to look for someone with
 those particular skill to lead/herd Sugar Labs forward.  As such I
 would like to recommend that SLOB ask and appoint Adam Holt as the
 next Executive Director of Sugar Labs.
 david


In the last email you mentioned key points of possible actual
weakness of Sugar Labs, in my opinion  changing executive Director doesn't
address all these points, we need more community discussions about those.



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