Re: [IAEP] africa labs
I think Bernie might be able to help share with whats going on at Mozambique -Arjun On Sun, Oct 24, 2010 at 10:32 PM, roberto robert...@gmail.com wrote: hello, do you know who is spreading sugar throughout Africa, at the moment (if any) ? i'd like to understand how it is going down there, especially as far as regards power supply issues thank you -- roberto ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- Arjun Sarwal ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] [SLOBS] meeting reminder: Tuesday, 26 October
We will be having a Sugar Oversight Board meeting at 11 EST (15 UTC). Please join us in a discussion of the current status of the project. regards. -walter -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] africa labs
Hi Roberto, our Dutch foundation OpenWijs.nl has some small projects in Africa http://www.openwijs.nl/referenties/olpc I hope you can translate the pages with Google translate :) with kind regards, Frits Hoff Op 24-10-2010 19:02, roberto schreef: hello, do you know who is spreading sugar throughout Africa, at the moment (if any) ? i'd like to understand how it is going down there, especially as far as regards power supply issues thank you ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] Sugar Oversight Board meeting
Hi Regarding the Sugar Oversight Board meeting at 11 EST, Is that a sit down meeting or over the internet (skype, irc etc)? Can anyone sit in to find out what the current state is? If not will you publish the minutes? Trish ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Sugar Oversight Board meeting
On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 12:15 PM, Patricia Curtis patricia.cur...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Regarding the Sugar Oversight Board meeting at 11 EST, Is that a sit down meeting or over the internet (skype, irc etc)? Sorry. I usually include these additional items in my meeting announcements: We meet in IRC (irc.freenode.net #sugar-meeting). The meeting is public. Minutes and logs are kept in the wiki: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Oversight_Board/Minutes -walter Can anyone sit in to find out what the current state is? If not will you publish the minutes? Trish ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] africa labs
thank you very much, i'll check the wiki again and keep in touch with people directly involved there On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 6:14 AM, Edward Cherlin echer...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Oct 24, 2010 at 13:02, roberto robert...@gmail.com wrote: hello, do you know who is spreading sugar throughout Africa, at the moment (if any) ? I know what is on the deployments page. http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Deployments#Deployment_data Rwanda Nigeria Ethiopia Ghana South Africa and on the interactive map http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?f=qhl=engeocode=time=date=ttype=ie=UTF8cd=1om=1msa=0msid=107887635573341686661.00045a8f74844ef1681f8ll=7.710992,11.25spn=136.959067,316.40625z=2 including those listed above plus Mozambique Mali Kenya Cameroon Uganda i'd like to understand how it is going down there, especially as far as regards power supply issues Do you mean the XO battery packs, power consumption under various loads, battery life, recharging time, the wall plug, gang rechargers, mains power, renewable power,...? Many of these questions are also answered in the Wiki. thank you -- roberto ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- Edward Mokurai (默雷/धर्ममेघशब्दगर्ज/دھرممیگھشبدگر ج) Cherlin Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination. http://www.earthtreasury.org/ -- roberto ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] Moving forward.
Yesterday I sent a rather blunt email on my concerns about the project. It seems the observations resonated with many people while striking several nerves. The volume of private mail or CCed mail (to a subset of the Sugar Labs participants) responses was unexpectedly high. The five main themes of the responses are: 1. Could you possibility be any more abstract? 2. Several of the points are valid. Here are my responses/suggestions. This should be on a public thread, but someone else will have to start it. 3. The core problem is trust. 4. This conversation is like an iceberg, the 'community' only sees 10% and not the other 90%. 5. Dave you are just a jerk, now shut up. For better of worse, all five points are valid. I am a bumbling jerk who is struggling to rebuild community trust without airing anyone's dirty laundry, including my own. To put all of my cards on the table: 1. The ideas driving OLPC and Sugar are sound. 2. Sugar Labs will continue to fragment until the issue of trust is resolved. 3. Because of this, I left Sugar Labs to start a business which provides service and support for Sugar. 4. I need Sugar to succeed. I need OLPC to succeed. 5. I have been trying to operate 'under the radar' because some in Sugar Labs and OLPC have contacted individuals I am working with and 'suggested' that they not work with me. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. I get pissed off about the lack of trust and community building in Sugar Labs, so I go off and form a fork which operates largely in secret. Two years ago, I suggested that the over sight board appoint Walter Bender as Executive Director of Sugar Labs so he would be able to speak on behalf of Sugar Labs. He had three skills which Sugar Labs needed. 1) He was able to clearly and effectively communicate the goals of Sugar and the mission of Sugar Labs. 2) He was able to create an identity for Sugar Labs outside of OLPC. 3) He was a tireless advocate for Sugar. In the past two years Sugar Labs has progressed, largely because of Walter. The goal of sugar and Sugar labs is well understood. Sugar Labs has a clear identity. Now, Sugar Labs has different needs; pragmatic bridge building between individuals and organization. It is time to look for someone with those particular skill to lead/herd Sugar Labs forward. As such I would like to recommend that SLOB ask and appoint Adam Holt as the next Executive Director of Sugar Labs. david ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] africa labs
On Mon, 2010-10-25 at 12:50 +0530, Arjun Sarwal wrote: I think Bernie might be able to help share with whats going on at Mozambique Mozambique is just starting out with 3000 laptops: http://codewiz.org/wiki/blog/2010/10#fri-oct-15--first-classroom-sessions -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/ \X/ Sugar Labs - http://sugarlabs.org/ ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Moving forward.
Hi David and all. On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 7:30 PM, David Farning dfarn...@gmail.com wrote: Yesterday I sent a rather blunt email on my concerns about the project. It seems the observations resonated with many people while striking several nerves. The volume of private mail or CCed mail (to a subset of the Sugar Labs participants) responses was unexpectedly high. The five main themes of the responses are: 1. Could you possibility be any more abstract? 2. Several of the points are valid. Here are my responses/suggestions. This should be on a public thread, but someone else will have to start it. 3. The core problem is trust. 4. This conversation is like an iceberg, the 'community' only sees 10% and not the other 90%. 5. Dave you are just a jerk, now shut up. For better of worse, all five points are valid. I am a bumbling jerk who is struggling to rebuild community trust without airing anyone's dirty laundry, including my own. To put all of my cards on the table: 1. The ideas driving OLPC and Sugar are sound. 2. Sugar Labs will continue to fragment until the issue of trust is resolved. 3. Because of this, I left Sugar Labs to start a business which provides service and support for Sugar. 4. I need Sugar to succeed. I need OLPC to succeed. 5. I have been trying to operate 'under the radar' because some in Sugar Labs and OLPC have contacted individuals I am working with and 'suggested' that they not work with me. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. I get pissed off about the lack of trust and community building in Sugar Labs, so I go off and form a fork which operates largely in secret. Two years ago, I suggested that the over sight board appoint Walter Bender as Executive Director of Sugar Labs so he would be able to speak on behalf of Sugar Labs. He had three skills which Sugar Labs needed. 1) He was able to clearly and effectively communicate the goals of Sugar and the mission of Sugar Labs. 2) He was able to create an identity for Sugar Labs outside of OLPC. 3) He was a tireless advocate for Sugar. In the past two years Sugar Labs has progressed, largely because of Walter. The goal of sugar and Sugar labs is well understood. Sugar Labs has a clear identity. Now, Sugar Labs has different needs; pragmatic bridge building between individuals and organization. It is time to look for someone with those particular skill to lead/herd Sugar Labs forward. As such I would like to recommend that SLOB ask and appoint Adam Holt as the next Executive Director of Sugar Labs. david In the last email you mentioned key points of possible actual weakness of Sugar Labs, in my opinion changing executive Director doesn't address all these points, we need more community discussions about those. ___ Sugar-devel mailing list sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep