[IAEP] a school is not a building
Hi all, A favor: help me make this case (or refute it) as we prepare once more for Haiti ... "spend money on training & laptops instead bricks and mortar". http://waveplace.com/news/blog/archive/001035.jsp Thanks, Tim -- Timothy Falconer Waveplace Foundation http://waveplace.org + 1 610 797 3100 x33 ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [realness] a school is not a building
On Sun, 2010-12-05 at 15:18 -0500, Timothy Falconer wrote: > Hi all, > > A favor: help me make this case (or refute it) as we prepare once > more for Haiti ... "spend money on training & laptops instead bricks > and mortar". > > http://waveplace.com/news/blog/archive/001035.jsp It's a beautiful thought that touches deep into my hacker spirit, but the conclusion seems weak: what is it that we are advocating for? Remote learning? Home-schooling? Having classes under a tree? It's unclear. The point that you were making with the military canteen vs cooking at home metaphor is that compulsory education doesn't follow individual inclinations. Then, the conclusion should state the proposed solution for this problem. -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/ \X/ Sugar Labs - http://sugarlabs.org/ ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [realness] a school is not a building
Personally, I think the whole approach is wrong. You will never convince Ministries of Education to stop their "core" activities just because there are laptops. The better approach is to show how laptops can enhance education in schools. This should not be an "either/or" approach. We can do both. As a simple example, children can leave the school earlier after suitable teaching and complete work on the laptops at home or other locations. This will free up the school to take a second shift of students. Teachers can restructure their teaching to have groups working together to learn, so freeing them up to take more students. Ian Thomson ICT Outreach Section Economic Development Division Secretariat of the Pacific Community B.P. D5 - Noumea Cedex - 98848 New Caledonia Phone +687-265419 Fax +687 26 38 18 http://www.spc.int -Original Message- From: iaep-boun...@lists.sugarlabs.org [mailto:iaep-boun...@lists.sugarlabs.org] On Behalf Of Bernie Innocenti Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 8:36 AM To: Timothy Falconer Cc: olpc-ha...@lists.laptop.org; grassroots OLPC; olpc-o...@lists.laptop.org; Squeakland List; Maho 2010; IAEP; ht2011-win...@waveplace.org Subject: Re: [IAEP] [realness] a school is not a building On Sun, 2010-12-05 at 15:18 -0500, Timothy Falconer wrote: > Hi all, > > A favor: help me make this case (or refute it) as we prepare once > more for Haiti ... "spend money on training & laptops instead bricks > and mortar". > > http://waveplace.com/news/blog/archive/001035.jsp It's a beautiful thought that touches deep into my hacker spirit, but the conclusion seems weak: what is it that we are advocating for? Remote learning? Home-schooling? Having classes under a tree? It's unclear. The point that you were making with the military canteen vs cooking at home metaphor is that compulsory education doesn't follow individual inclinations. Then, the conclusion should state the proposed solution for this problem. -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/ \X/ Sugar Labs - http://sugarlabs.org/ ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] Notas sobre el reciente evento de 2 días del Plan Ceibal
E038 Comments on “Foro Ciudadanía Digital” - General https://docs.google.com/document/pub?id=1JpFpQJZaga2jB8lh15tOVjlIpaZBIeKGg_zBdJzDaQ8 Carlos Rabassa Voluntario Red de Apoyo al Plan Ceibal Montevideo, Uruguay ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [realness] a school is not a building
Don't forget the possibility of using the laptops to tailor the learning experience to fit the individual needs of each learner. With proper training, and planning, teachers can learn to do this easily in ways that will help all students achieve their highest potential. Of course, a more work needs to be done on finding ways to do this with the Sugar Activities so that teachers will be able to do this. Caryl > Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2010 10:04:31 +1100 > From: i...@spc.int > To: ber...@codewiz.org; tee...@waveplace.org > CC: olpc-ha...@lists.laptop.org; grassro...@lists.laptop.org; > olpc-o...@lists.laptop.org; squeakl...@squeakland.org; m...@realness.org; > iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org; ht2011-win...@waveplace.org > Subject: Re: [IAEP] [realness] a school is not a building > > Personally, I think the whole approach is wrong. You will never convince > Ministries of Education to stop their "core" activities just because > there are laptops. > > The better approach is to show how laptops can enhance education in > schools. > This should not be an "either/or" approach. We can do both. > > As a simple example, children can leave the school earlier after > suitable teaching and complete work on the laptops at home or other > locations. This will free up the school to take a second shift of > students. > Teachers can restructure their teaching to have groups working together > to learn, so freeing them up to take more students. > > Ian Thomson > ICT Outreach Section > Economic Development Division > Secretariat of the Pacific Community > B.P. D5 - Noumea Cedex - 98848 > New Caledonia > > Phone +687-265419 > > Fax +687 26 38 18 > http://www.spc.int > > -Original Message- > From: iaep-boun...@lists.sugarlabs.org > [mailto:iaep-boun...@lists.sugarlabs.org] On Behalf Of Bernie Innocenti > Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 8:36 AM > To: Timothy Falconer > Cc: olpc-ha...@lists.laptop.org; grassroots OLPC; > olpc-o...@lists.laptop.org; Squeakland List; Maho 2010; IAEP; > ht2011-win...@waveplace.org > Subject: Re: [IAEP] [realness] a school is not a building > > On Sun, 2010-12-05 at 15:18 -0500, Timothy Falconer wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > A favor: help me make this case (or refute it) as we prepare once > > more for Haiti ... "spend money on training & laptops instead bricks > > and mortar". > > > > http://waveplace.com/news/blog/archive/001035.jsp > > It's a beautiful thought that touches deep into my hacker spirit, but > the conclusion seems weak: what is it that we are advocating for? Remote > learning? Home-schooling? Having classes under a tree? It's unclear. > > The point that you were making with the military canteen vs cooking at > home metaphor is that compulsory education doesn't follow individual > inclinations. Then, the conclusion should state the proposed solution > for this problem. > > -- >// Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/ > \X/ Sugar Labs - http://sugarlabs.org/ > > ___ > IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) > IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep > > ___ > IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) > IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [realness] a school is not a building
What he said. I hate false dichotomies. They abound in discussions of education and in the politics of education, indeed in any situation where the more extreme the position, the more likely it is to be heard. On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 18:04, Ian Thomson wrote: > Personally, I think the whole approach is wrong. You will never convince > Ministries of Education to stop their "core" activities just because > there are laptops. > > The better approach is to show how laptops can enhance education in > schools. > This should not be an "either/or" approach. We can do both. > > As a simple example, children can leave the school earlier after > suitable teaching and complete work on the laptops at home or other > locations. This will free up the school to take a second shift of > students. > Teachers can restructure their teaching to have groups working together > to learn, so freeing them up to take more students. > > Ian Thomson > ICT Outreach Section > Economic Development Division > Secretariat of the Pacific Community > B.P. D5 - Noumea Cedex - 98848 > New Caledonia > > Phone +687-265419 > > Fax +687 26 38 18 > http://www.spc.int > > -Original Message- > From: iaep-boun...@lists.sugarlabs.org > [mailto:iaep-boun...@lists.sugarlabs.org] On Behalf Of Bernie Innocenti > Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 8:36 AM > To: Timothy Falconer > Cc: olpc-ha...@lists.laptop.org; grassroots OLPC; > olpc-o...@lists.laptop.org; Squeakland List; Maho 2010; IAEP; > ht2011-win...@waveplace.org > Subject: Re: [IAEP] [realness] a school is not a building > > On Sun, 2010-12-05 at 15:18 -0500, Timothy Falconer wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> A favor: help me make this case (or refute it) as we prepare once >> more for Haiti ... "spend money on training & laptops instead bricks >> and mortar". >> >> http://waveplace.com/news/blog/archive/001035.jsp > > It's a beautiful thought that touches deep into my hacker spirit, but > the conclusion seems weak: what is it that we are advocating for? Remote > learning? Home-schooling? Having classes under a tree? It's unclear. > > The point that you were making with the military canteen vs cooking at > home metaphor is that compulsory education doesn't follow individual > inclinations. Then, the conclusion should state the proposed solution > for this problem. > > -- > // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/ > \X/ Sugar Labs - http://sugarlabs.org/ > > ___ > IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) > IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep > > ___ > IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) > IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep > -- Edward Mokurai (默雷/धर्ममेघशब्दगर्ज/دھرممیگھشبدگر ج) Cherlin Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination. http://www.earthtreasury.org/ ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [realness] RE: [realness] a school is not a building
On Mon, 2010-12-06 at 10:04 +1100, Ian Thomson wrote: > Personally, I think the whole approach is wrong. You will never > convince Ministries of Education to stop their "core" activities just > because there are laptops. Sure, but Tim's appeal was probably not addressed to the MoE of Haiti. Developing countries offer great opportunities to innovate in education by augmenting or replacing a public school system which is under-financed and under-staffed. Paraguay Educa, for example, could completely transform the school district of Caacupé, in spite of political opposition from the MoE. Parents, students and teachers were so supportive that, eventually, the government was forced to release a small amount of funds to sustain the project for the next year. Things can grow to national scale at a later time, but when it comes to proving the validity of an innovative idea on the ground, I trust small NGOs such as Waveplace and Paraguay Educa because they're not held back by unions, politics and bureaucracy. > The better approach is to show how laptops can enhance education in > schools. This should not be an "either/or" approach. We can do both. > > As a simple example, children can leave the school earlier after > suitable teaching and complete work on the laptops at home or other > locations. In at least one OLPC deployment ran by the MoE, the decision makers were reluctant to let students take their laptops home with them. What if some laptops get damaged or stolen? The predominant mindset was to protect these expensive machines from the children. > This will free up the school to take a second shift of students. > Teachers can restructure their teaching to have groups working > together to learn, so freeing them up to take more students. I think this is a good suggestion. I don't know what it's like in Haiti, but in all the deployments I visited, schools already had 2 or even 3 shifts. One logistic problem is that children can't stay around to work in groups if the classrooms are already occupied by students of the next shift. Once they scatter to their homes, collaboration becomes harder. -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/ \X/ Sugar Labs - http://sugarlabs.org/ ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] Fwd: [NextNow] Fwd: Hans Rosling's The Joy of Stats: 200 Countries, 200 Years, 4 Minutes (BBCFour)
Worth consideration as the basis for a Free course. I have long maintained that we should teach statistics through sports such as soccer/football, cricket, and baseball, where well over a century of record-keeping exists. Those not interested in sports could use chess or go, with much longer histories. -- Forwarded message -- From: Bill Daul Date: Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 04:39 Subject: [NextNow] Fwd: Hans Rosling's The Joy of Stats: 200 Countries, 200 Years, 4 Minutes (BBCFour) To: Bill Daul , Me The Owner , Brinda DALAL , Bonnie - Tony DEVARCO , Bonnie DEVARCO , Katy Borner This whole BBC series looks amazing and WORTH watching. See the link at the bottom of this note for info on the series, The Joy of Stats. Watch the 4 minute clip at the link below "watch at". The substance is very impressive and so is the visualization. --bill Begin forwarded message: From: stuart silverstone Date: December 4, 2010 7:17:01 PM PST To: Subject: Hans Rosling's The Joy of Stats: 200 Countries, 200 Years, 4 Minutes (BBCFour) Hans Rosling's famous lectures combine enormous quantities of public data with a sport's commentator's style to reveal the story of the world's past, present and future development. Now he explores stats in a way he has never done before - using augmented reality animation. In this spectacular section of 'The Joy of Stats' he tells the story of the world in 200 countries over 200 years using 120,000 numbers - in just four minutes. Plotting life expectancy against income for every country since 1810, Hans shows how the world we live in is radically different from the world most of us imagine. watch at: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbkSRLYSojo&feature=player_embedded Documentary which takes viewers on a rollercoaster ride through the wonderful world of statistics to explore the remarkable power thay have to change our understanding of the world, presented by superstar boffin Professor Hans Rosling, whose eye-opening, mind-expanding and funny online lectures have made him an international internet legend. Rosling is a man who revels in the glorious nerdiness of statistics, and here he entertainingly explores their history, how they work mathematically and how they can be used in today's computer age to see the world as it really is, not just as we imagine it to be. Rosling's lectures use huge quantities of public data to reveal the story of the world's past, present and future development. Now he tells the story of the world in 200 countries over 200 years using 120,000 numbers - in just four minutes. The film also explores cutting-edge examples of statistics in action today. In San Francisco, a new app mashes up police department data with the city's street map to show what crime is being reported street by street, house by house, in near real-time. Every citizen can use it and the hidden patterns of their city are starkly revealed. Meanwhile, at Google HQ the machine translation project tries to translate between 57 languages, using lots of statistics and no linguists. Despite its light and witty touch, the film nonetheless has a serious message - without statistics we are cast adrift on an ocean of confusion, but armed with stats we can take control of our lives, hold our rulers to account and see the world as it really is. What's more, Hans concludes, we can now collect and analyse such huge quantities of data and at such speeds that scientific method itself seems to be changing. More about this programme: http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00wgq0l -- Bill Daul Chief Collaboration Officer NextNow Collaboratory: a synergistic web of relationships focused on transforming the present http://www.human-landscaping.com/nextnow http://www.nextnow.net -- NN Network Blog http://www.nextnow.org -- NN Collaboratory Blog == "Play with boundaries, not within." -- Edward Mokurai (默雷/धर्ममेघशब्दगर्ज/دھرممیگھشبدگر ج) Cherlin Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination. http://www.earthtreasury.org/ ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [realness] a school is not a building
It's not that Ministries of Education should *stop* their core activities, but another possibility to consider before *starting*. A physical school where children can learn and work together is wonderful. In some situations where it's a struggle to build a physical school, where it really may be a dichotomy between buildings/laptops because of the expense, maybe they want to make digital collaboration their main goal instead of building with brick and mortar. Blake Elias On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 6:47 PM, Edward Cherlin wrote: > What he said. I hate false dichotomies. They abound in discussions of > education and in the politics of education, indeed in any situation > where the more extreme the position, the more likely it is to be > heard. > > On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 18:04, Ian Thomson wrote: >> Personally, I think the whole approach is wrong. You will never convince >> Ministries of Education to stop their "core" activities just because >> there are laptops. >> >> The better approach is to show how laptops can enhance education in >> schools. >> This should not be an "either/or" approach. We can do both. >> >> As a simple example, children can leave the school earlier after >> suitable teaching and complete work on the laptops at home or other >> locations. This will free up the school to take a second shift of >> students. >> Teachers can restructure their teaching to have groups working together >> to learn, so freeing them up to take more students. >> >> Ian Thomson >> ICT Outreach Section >> Economic Development Division >> Secretariat of the Pacific Community >> B.P. D5 - Noumea Cedex - 98848 >> New Caledonia >> >> Phone +687-265419 >> >> Fax +687 26 38 18 >> http://www.spc.int >> >> -Original Message- >> From: iaep-boun...@lists.sugarlabs.org >> [mailto:iaep-boun...@lists.sugarlabs.org] On Behalf Of Bernie Innocenti >> Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 8:36 AM >> To: Timothy Falconer >> Cc: olpc-ha...@lists.laptop.org; grassroots OLPC; >> olpc-o...@lists.laptop.org; Squeakland List; Maho 2010; IAEP; >> ht2011-win...@waveplace.org >> Subject: Re: [IAEP] [realness] a school is not a building >> >> On Sun, 2010-12-05 at 15:18 -0500, Timothy Falconer wrote: >>> Hi all, >>> >>> A favor: help me make this case (or refute it) as we prepare once >>> more for Haiti ... "spend money on training & laptops instead bricks >>> and mortar". >>> >>> http://waveplace.com/news/blog/archive/001035.jsp >> >> It's a beautiful thought that touches deep into my hacker spirit, but >> the conclusion seems weak: what is it that we are advocating for? Remote >> learning? Home-schooling? Having classes under a tree? It's unclear. >> >> The point that you were making with the military canteen vs cooking at >> home metaphor is that compulsory education doesn't follow individual >> inclinations. Then, the conclusion should state the proposed solution >> for this problem. >> >> -- >> // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/ >> \X/ Sugar Labs - http://sugarlabs.org/ >> >> ___ >> IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) >> IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org >> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep >> >> ___ >> IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) >> IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org >> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep >> > > > > -- > Edward Mokurai (默雷/धर्ममेघशब्दगर्ज/دھرممیگھشبدگر ج) Cherlin > Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation. > The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination. > http://www.earthtreasury.org/ > ___ > IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) > IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
