Re: [IAEP] Communities around technology for learning (was: Re: [support-gang] When teaching restrains discovery)

2011-01-22 Thread Edward Cherlin
I have suggested creating a walled garden Web site for all OLPC
children. We can discuss whether teachers should be allowed in, but
definitely no parents. ^_^ They should have their own place to discuss
whatever concerns them. Education, poverty, government corruption,
international e-commerce...

On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 17:32, Christoph Derndorfer
e0425...@student.tuwien.ac.at wrote:
 I finally got around to reading Claudia's article and one of the core
 take-aways for me is that building communities (plural!) which help
 disseminate knowledge about how to use technology for learning is a
 core challenge which hasn't been sufficiently addressed yet.

 To me 2010 did show the first promises of this happening within the OLPC
 / Sugar community with collaboration starting between Plan Ceibal and
 ParaguayEduca, the work of organizations and communities such as
 ceibalJAM and RAP Ceibal, a better integration of Latin American
 contributors in the global community, eKindling's work in the
 Philippines, all the time Bernie, Daniel, Claudia, Walter and others are
 spending sharing with and learning from deployments, events such the
 community summit in San Francisco and the realness summit, the
 olpcMAP.net project, etc.

 And with some OLE Nepal staff having started the year by flying out to
 Rwanda to support the deployment there 2011 is also definitely beginning
 on a high-note.

 Having said that I personally feel that at the moment this network of
 networks (or community of communities, take your pick;-) is wide rather
 than deep - often seemingly ending at people living in capitals or major
 cities, being experienced with FLOSS and/or innovative education, etc.
 rather than reaching and benefiting the children, parents, teachers,
 principals, and administrators who are really the major stakeholders of
 education initiatives.

 I don't have a simple answer on how to deal with this (and who knows, it
 might just be an issue perceived by yours truly) but I think keeping it
 in the back of the head might be a start.

 Cheers,
 Christoph

 Am 20.01.2011 17:24, schrieb Holt:
 Thanks Bastien.  Back on the home front, also check out Claudia Urrea's
 (OLPC Assoc's Chief Learner ;) article today on one-to-one edutech etc:
 http://edutechdebate.org/ict-in-schools/technologies-for-learning-vs-learning-about-technology/

 On 1/20/2011 9:46 AM, Bastien wrote:
 Hi Christoph and all,

 I always enjoy those resources about education, thank you for the
 pointers -- and to everyone for the comments!

 Let me share two recent readings of mine:

 John Maeda : The Laws of Simplicity

    
 http://www.amazon.com/Laws-Simplicity-Design-Technology-Business/dp/0262134721

 My attention got caught when I saw John Maeda referring to Nicholas
 Negroponte in the chapter « Context ».  While discussing the importance
 of focusing, he mentions this advice from NN : Be as an electric bulb,
 not as a lazer ray.  Which I found to be quite an inspiring metaphor in
 the context of learning: let's all learn how to shed light on things as
 bulbs, taking care of others and the context, not as lazer ray, only
 taking care of the subject matter.

 George Steiner - « Éloge de la transmission - Le maître et l'élève »

    
 http://livre.fnac.com/a1904995/George-Steiner-Eloge-de-la-transmission-le-maitre-et-l-eleve

 (Sorry, only published in french.)

 In the debate about instructionisme vs. [constructionisme, project-based
 method, Montessori method, etc.], most people would certainly say that
 Steiner -- George, not Rudolph! -- is rather conservative, expressing
 opinions shared by teachers with a classical-instructionist attitude.
 The title of this book says it all.

 Still, he proposes a definition for what it is to be a master: it is
 someone from which students can always feel the love behind the irony.
 Of course, Socrates comes to mind as a master of both irony and love
 towards its pupils -- I bet Steiner would agree.

 I like this definition.  It is general enough to escape the opposition
 between instructionism / [constructionisme, ...].  But still, I feel
 this definition captures something essential that any teacher could
 fruitfully think about.

 My 2 cents,



 --
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Re: [IAEP] [support-gang] Communities around technology for learning (was: Re: When teaching restrains discovery)

2011-01-22 Thread Dr. Gerald Ardito
Edward,

I like your idea. And plan on setting up a blog, or other site, where
the students I am working with could share with one another about
their experiences with the XOs.

Gerald

On Saturday, January 22, 2011, Edward Cherlin echer...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have suggested creating a walled garden Web site for all OLPC
 children. We can discuss whether teachers should be allowed in, but
 definitely no parents. ^_^ They should have their own place to discuss
 whatever concerns them. Education, poverty, government corruption,
 international e-commerce...

 On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 17:32, Christoph Derndorfer
 e0425...@student.tuwien.ac.at wrote:
 I finally got around to reading Claudia's article and one of the core
 take-aways for me is that building communities (plural!) which help
 disseminate knowledge about how to use technology for learning is a
 core challenge which hasn't been sufficiently addressed yet.

 To me 2010 did show the first promises of this happening within the OLPC
 / Sugar community with collaboration starting between Plan Ceibal and
 ParaguayEduca, the work of organizations and communities such as
 ceibalJAM and RAP Ceibal, a better integration of Latin American
 contributors in the global community, eKindling's work in the
 Philippines, all the time Bernie, Daniel, Claudia, Walter and others are
 spending sharing with and learning from deployments, events such the
 community summit in San Francisco and the realness summit, the
 olpcMAP.net project, etc.

 And with some OLE Nepal staff having started the year by flying out to
 Rwanda to support the deployment there 2011 is also definitely beginning
 on a high-note.

 Having said that I personally feel that at the moment this network of
 networks (or community of communities, take your pick;-) is wide rather
 than deep - often seemingly ending at people living in capitals or major
 cities, being experienced with FLOSS and/or innovative education, etc.
 rather than reaching and benefiting the children, parents, teachers,
 principals, and administrators who are really the major stakeholders of
 education initiatives.

 I don't have a simple answer on how to deal with this (and who knows, it
 might just be an issue perceived by yours truly) but I think keeping it
 in the back of the head might be a start.

 Cheers,
 Christoph

 Am 20.01.2011 17:24, schrieb Holt:
 Thanks Bastien.  Back on the home front, also check out Claudia Urrea's
 (OLPC Assoc's Chief Learner ;) article today on one-to-one edutech etc:
 http://edutechdebate.org/ict-in-schools/technologies-for-learning-vs-learning-about-technology/

 On 1/20/2011 9:46 AM, Bastien wrote:
 Hi Christoph and all,

 I always enjoy those resources about education, thank you for the
 pointers -- and to everyone for the comments!

 Let me share two recent readings of mine:

 John Maeda : The Laws of Simplicity

    
 http://www.amazon.com/Laws-Simplicity-Design-Technology-Business/dp/0262134721

 My attention got caught when I saw John Maeda referring to Nicholas
 Negroponte in the chapter « Context ».  While discussing the importance
 of focusing, he mentions this advice from NN : Be as an electric bulb,
 not as a lazer ray.  Which I found to be quite an inspiring metaphor in
 the context of learning: let's all learn how to shed light on things as
 bulbs, taking care of others and the context, not as lazer ray, only
 taking care of the subject matter.

 George Steiner - « Éloge de la transmission - Le maître et l'élève »

    
 http://livre.fnac.com/a1904995/George-Steiner-Eloge-de-la-transmission-le-maitre-et-l-eleve

 (Sorry, only published in french.)

 In the debate about instructionisme vs. [constructionisme, project-based
 method, Montessori method, etc.], most people would certainly say that
 Steiner -- George, not Rudolph! -- is rather conservative, expressing
 opinions shared by teachers with a classical-instructionist attitude.
 The title of this book says it all.

 Still, he proposes a definition for what it is to be a master: it is
 someone from which students can always feel the love behind the irony.
 Of course, So--
 Edward Mokurai (默雷/धर्ममेघशब्दगर्ज/دھرممیگھشبدگر ج) Cherlin
 Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation.
 The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination.
 http://www.earthtreasury.org/
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Re: [IAEP] Fieldwork and Research by SomosAzucar's German Volunteer Antje Breitkopf

2011-01-22 Thread Sameer Verma
On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 4:24 PM, Sebastian Silva
sebast...@somosazucar.org wrote:
 Hello dear list,
 This year we had the good experience of working together with Antje
 Breitkopf, a German doctoral student who also visited in Nepal the year
 before.
 She has great experience and a very insightful mind, and so her experience
 in visiting rural schools in Peru proved very fruitful in insights and
 observations which she has been so kind in sharing with us in an article she
 published in our Somos Azucar blog:

 I think it might be interesting for many of you.

 http://somosazucar.org/2010/11/20/informe-sobre-la-investigacion-de-las-laptop-xo/

 I presented a version of this report to the DIGETE (General Department of
 Educational Technologies), Ministry of Education, Peru to inform them about
 the development of my investigation and field work of the project “una
 laptop por niño” (OLPC Peru). It contains experiences, observations, first
 conclusions and recommendations and is written in English, and open to be
 translated and used under “creative commons” license, attributing the
 writer.

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Is the original version available somewhere online?

cheers,
Sameer
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Associate Professor, Information Systems
Director, Campus Business Solutions
San Francisco State University
http://verma.sfsu.edu/
http://opensource.sfsu.edu/
http://cbs.sfsu.edu/
http://is.sfsu.edu/
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Re: [IAEP] Better links bar for wiki.sugarlabs.org

2011-01-22 Thread Bernie Innocenti
On Fri, 2011-01-21 at 17:08 -0800, Thomas C Gilliard wrote: 
 I personally think the download link on top is important and should be 
 kept.

Ok, if it could be changed into something that won't get clicked first
thing by novice users who are trying to download Sugar.

For example, archive or files.


 The Link to Sugar/Downloads on the sidebar:
 http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Downloads/Landing_page
 should be called Get Sugar: and point to:
 http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Downloads
 Directly. I do not understand why it goes to a landing page first.
 This is more consistent with the other items on the left Sugar sidebar
 Get Started; Get Help; Get Involved.
 
 Too Many Clicks

I'm ok on skipping the landing page.

As for Get Sugar, while it may seem more user-friendly, it violates
the de-facto standard naming used by all web sites. Even novice Internet
users search for a download link when they want a program.

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   // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/
 \X/  Sugar Labs   - http://sugarlabs.org/

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[IAEP] caixamagica-linux-live-15-final-GNOME has sugar0.88.0 and installs in VB4

2011-01-22 Thread Thomas C Gilliard

I found another Distribution where  sugar can be installed
Installed it to VirtualBox 4
Works nicely

Details here:
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Community/Distributions/Magalh%C3%A3es#caixamagica-linux-live-15-final-GNOME-int-cdrom-i586_with_sugar_0.88.0

Installs in symantic with task-sugar 0.88.0-1mdv2010.1 Sugar Platform

Tom Gilliard
satellit
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Re: [IAEP] Internet Archive now supports text to speech with sentence highlighting

2011-01-22 Thread Edward Cherlin
English-only so far? Any further plans?

On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 15:43, James Simmons nices...@gmail.com wrote:
 I just discovered this a minute ago and thought it would be of
 interest.  The Internet Archive lets you read a book online.  They
 have polished up their online book reader code to the point that it
 now supports text to speech.  It highlights sentences instead of
 words, and has a nice, human-female-sounding voice that is much more
 pleasant than what espeak gives us.

 Here are a couple of links to try out:

 http://www.archive.org/stream/BigAviationBookForBoys#page/n15/mode/2up

 http://www.archive.org/stream/MakeYourOwnSugarActivities/ActivitiesGuideSugar-en-2010.10.08-17.20.43#page/n5/mode/2up

 To date we only have TTS with highlighting in one Activity, which is
 Read Etexts.  The highlighting lags behind the word spoken on an XO
 laptop (although it keeps up on a more powerful machine).  This makes
 me wonder if sentence highlighting might be a better alternative (and
 also how to decide what constitutes a sentence).  The IA code doesn't
 always get it right, but it does OK.

 What is neat is that it works on books like BigAviationBook that were
 created by photographing page images.  This makes me think we could
 get TTS working in the Read Activity.

 Anyway, have a look.

 James Simmons
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