Re: [IAEP] planet.sugarlabs.org html/css redesign

2011-01-31 Thread Sean DALY
I can't assist with CSS, but what would be helpful would be to make
the changes I suggested back in 2009 [1].

Developers know what a planet is and does, but to anyone else, it's
not clear at all that sugarlabs.org is not the original publisher of
the blog posts.

I still have no idea if updated blog posts are re-aggregated to the
planet or not.

Sean

1. http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/marketing/2009-May/000942.html




On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 11:49 PM, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote:
 Hey, please don't reply all at the same time! Get in line! ;-)

 On Fri, 2011-01-28 at 21:25 -0500, Bernie Innocenti wrote:
 Hello,

 the current look of planet.sugarlabs.org is dreadful! We're looking for
 someone with good web design skills to work on an improved template 
 CSS.

 But I don't want to frame the creativity too much, but if it were up to
 me I'd part with the idea of imitating the Sugar UI. Instead, we could
 try to make the planet blend better with the wiki and aslo... I'd also
 add a links bar similar to the one on chat.sugarlabs.org (only links
 relevant for end-users).

 If you'd like to give it a try, and you already have a shell account,
 you could checkout this repository now and play with it:

   people.sugarlabs.org/srv/www-sugarlabs/planet

 If you'd like to publish your proposal, I can give you commit access to
 planet-devel.sugarlabs.org.

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Re: [IAEP] [Marketing] planet.sugarlabs.org html/css redesign

2011-01-31 Thread Walter Bender
On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 3:25 AM, Sean DALY sdaly...@gmail.com wrote:
 I can't assist with CSS, but what would be helpful would be to make
 the changes I suggested back in 2009 [1].

 Developers know what a planet is and does, but to anyone else, it's
 not clear at all that sugarlabs.org is not the original publisher of
 the blog posts.

 I still have no idea if updated blog posts are re-aggregated to the
 planet or not.

I believe that they are updated in the planet... at least I hope so :)

-walter

 Sean

 1. http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/marketing/2009-May/000942.html




 On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 11:49 PM, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote:
 Hey, please don't reply all at the same time! Get in line! ;-)

 On Fri, 2011-01-28 at 21:25 -0500, Bernie Innocenti wrote:
 Hello,

 the current look of planet.sugarlabs.org is dreadful! We're looking for
 someone with good web design skills to work on an improved template 
 CSS.

 But I don't want to frame the creativity too much, but if it were up to
 me I'd part with the idea of imitating the Sugar UI. Instead, we could
 try to make the planet blend better with the wiki and aslo... I'd also
 add a links bar similar to the one on chat.sugarlabs.org (only links
 relevant for end-users).

 If you'd like to give it a try, and you already have a shell account,
 you could checkout this repository now and play with it:

   people.sugarlabs.org/srv/www-sugarlabs/planet

 If you'd like to publish your proposal, I can give you commit access to
 planet-devel.sugarlabs.org.

 --
   // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/
  \X/  Sugar Labs       - http://sugarlabs.org/

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[IAEP] Tools for the community meeting

2011-01-31 Thread Pablo Flores
Last Wednesday we had an IRC meeting for analyzing which tools would be
useful to build for the community. Meeting log is in
http://meeting.sugarlabs.org/sugar-meeting/meetings/2011-01-26T21:06:33. Here
are my highlights:

Centralized Authentication (CAS)

   - The current multitude of accounts for services at Sugar Labs (and
   related organisations) is considered an obstacle to participation. We should
   work on a seamless / automatic log-in system, though the priority of this is
   not yet clear
   - Sascha is already working on CAS for sugarlabs.org sites, so it's an
   ongoing project (he'll write up an overview of how his imagined seamless
   login system is going to work, so others are able to join the effort if
   they like to)

Metadata, data aggregation and search tools:

   - The holly grial would be to have a centralized aggregator where one
   could see at a glance what's happening around in the community. Even better
   if all information was correctly tagged. However, it's not easy to implement
   the idea.
   - This would be useful for all kind of users (developers, educators,
   ...). For instance JT4sugar suggests for information around Teaching is
   to have information separated into Age/Grade level.

Other ideas suggested:

   - Making a portal for sharing info
   - autotranslation of some of the mailing lists, like sur-sur-en and
   iaep-iaep-es (we already have a web-to-IRC gateway and IRC translation,
   both courtesy of alsroot)
   - share/maintain list of known blogs, so bloggers can screen and promote
   what they find interesting

Next meeting: We're continuing the discussion next Wednesday at the same
time (9PM UTC, 4PM EST) in #sugar-meeting. I'd like to focus on the idea of
making a portal for sharing info. Which info should it have? Should it
aggregate info and/or receive users contributions? How can it be easy to
contribute there? How can we keep info organized?

All feedback is welcome!

Saludos,
Pablo Flores
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[IAEP] Another Etoys Question

2011-01-31 Thread Caryl Bigenho

OK, so I have watched the tutorials and even looked at 2 books I have about 
Squeak and still haven't found out how to make a multi-page book or slide show 
like we want to do for the Water Lessons. 

Innocent that I am, I assumed that clicking on the page symbol (looks like a 
page symbol used in other programs) would give me a new page.  I got what I 
thought was a new page.  Constructed it and saved.  Then I discovered it 
created a new project, not a new page!  Rats!  

Oh well, the page I lost was just the title page and it will be easy to remake 
it.  However I would like to keep the second page I made, put the title page 
before it and then add several more pages after.

Is there a link to instructions for doing this?  I don't need to learn about 
loops, variables, tiles and stuff like that... already know that and can, and 
have, taught it.

Caryl
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Re: [IAEP] Another Etoys Question

2011-01-31 Thread Steve Thomas
Caryl,

From the supplies bin, drag out a book. Then click on the Triangle in the
upper left corner of the book (when you hover over it it will say More
Controls.  You will then be able to add pages by clicking on the + in the
Book header and you can also duplicate pages from the menu in the header.

More details are in the Etoy floss manual Chapter
5http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/Etoys/Objects (search
for book within the page).

Stephen

On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 12:54 PM, Caryl Bigenho cbige...@hotmail.comwrote:

  OK, so I have watched the tutorials and even looked at 2 books I have
 about Squeak and still haven't found out how to make a multi-page book or
 slide show like we want to do for the Water Lessons.

 Innocent that I am, I assumed that clicking on the page symbol (looks like
 a page symbol used in other programs) would give me a new page.  I got what
 I thought was a new page.  Constructed it and saved.  Then I discovered it
 created a new* project*, not a new page!  Rats!

 Oh well, the page I lost was just the title page and it will be easy to
 remake it.  However I would like to keep the second page I made, put the
 title page before it and then add several more pages after.

 Is there a link to instructions for doing this?  I don't need to learn
 about loops, variables, tiles and stuff like that... already know that and
 can, and have, taught it.

 Caryl

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Re: [IAEP] Another Etoys Question

2011-01-31 Thread Cherry Withers
Hi Caryl,

I wrote that chapter on the manual. I would really like to know if there's
anything at all that's unclear about what I wrote.
I would also be happy to go through it with you on Skype at your
convenience.

Cheers,
Cherry

On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 10:59 AM, Steve Thomas sthom...@gosargon.comwrote:

 Caryl,

 From the supplies bin, drag out a book. Then click on the Triangle in the
 upper left corner of the book (when you hover over it it will say More
 Controls.  You will then be able to add pages by clicking on the + in the
 Book header and you can also duplicate pages from the menu in the header.

 More details are in the Etoy floss manual Chapter 
 5http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/Etoys/Objects (search
 for book within the page).

 Stephen

 On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 12:54 PM, Caryl Bigenho cbige...@hotmail.comwrote:

  OK, so I have watched the tutorials and even looked at 2 books I have
 about Squeak and still haven't found out how to make a multi-page book or
 slide show like we want to do for the Water Lessons.

 Innocent that I am, I assumed that clicking on the page symbol (looks like
 a page symbol used in other programs) would give me a new page.  I got what
 I thought was a new page.  Constructed it and saved.  Then I discovered it
 created a new* project*, not a new page!  Rats!

 Oh well, the page I lost was just the title page and it will be easy to
 remake it.  However I would like to keep the second page I made, put the
 title page before it and then add several more pages after.

 Is there a link to instructions for doing this?  I don't need to learn
 about loops, variables, tiles and stuff like that... already know that and
 can, and have, taught it.

 Caryl

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Re: [IAEP] Another Etoys Question

2011-01-31 Thread Carlos Rabassa
Cherry,

interesting you mention the manual.

What is the status of the manual?

At one point I had volunteered to translate it into Spanish.

Then there were other volunteers,  then there was some other book that was 
better to have in Spanish and then no more talk.

My offer is still on.

Is there anything you think I could start translating about Etoys?

Carlos Rabassa


On Jan 31, 2011, at 8:49 PM, Cherry Withers wrote:

 Hi Caryl, 
 
 I wrote that chapter on the manual. I would really like to know if there's 
 anything at all that's unclear about what I wrote. 
 I would also be happy to go through it with you on Skype at your convenience. 
 
 Cheers,
 Cherry 
 
 On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 10:59 AM, Steve Thomas sthom...@gosargon.com wrote:
 Caryl,
 
 From the supplies bin, drag out a book. Then click on the Triangle in the 
 upper left corner of the book (when you hover over it it will say More 
 Controls.  You will then be able to add pages by clicking on the + in the 
 Book header and you can also duplicate pages from the menu in the header.
 
 More details are in the Etoy floss manual Chapter 5 (search for book within 
 the page).
 
 Stephen
 
 On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 12:54 PM, Caryl Bigenho cbige...@hotmail.com wrote:
 OK, so I have watched the tutorials and even looked at 2 books I have about 
 Squeak and still haven't found out how to make a multi-page book or slide 
 show like we want to do for the Water Lessons. 
 
 Innocent that I am, I assumed that clicking on the page symbol (looks like a 
 page symbol used in other programs) would give me a new page.  I got what I 
 thought was a new page.  Constructed it and saved.  Then I discovered it 
 created a new project, not a new page!  Rats!  
 
 Oh well, the page I lost was just the title page and it will be easy to 
 remake it.  However I would like to keep the second page I made, put the 
 title page before it and then add several more pages after.
 
 Is there a link to instructions for doing this?  I don't need to learn about 
 loops, variables, tiles and stuff like that... already know that and can, and 
 have, taught it.
 
 Caryl
 
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Re: [IAEP] Another Etoys Question

2011-01-31 Thread Cherry Withers
Hi Carlos,

The manual is not completely done. It needs editing and we would appreciate
all the feedback that we can get.

If you'd like to spearhead the effort of translating it to Spanish, it will
be most appreciated! The original manual was done using FLOSS Manuals.
You can open an account for free and email them of your intent to start a
book or manual and go from there: http://en.flossmanuals.net/

Thank you for all of your support!

--Cherry

On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 9:23 AM, Carlos Rabassa car...@me.com wrote:

 Cherry,

 interesting you mention the manual.

 What is the status of the manual?

 At one point I had volunteered to translate it into Spanish.

 Then there were other volunteers,  then there was some other book and then
 no more talk.

 My offer is still on.

 Is there anything you think I could start translating about Etoys?

 Carlos Rabassa


 On Jan 31, 2011, at 8:49 PM, Cherry Withers wrote:

 Hi Caryl,

 I wrote that chapter on the manual. I would really like to know if there's
 anything at all that's unclear about what I wrote.
 I would also be happy to go through it with you on Skype at your
 convenience.

 Cheers,
 Cherry

 On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 10:59 AM, Steve Thomas sthom...@gosargon.comwrote:

 Caryl,

 From the supplies bin, drag out a book. Then click on the Triangle in the
 upper left corner of the book (when you hover over it it will say More
 Controls.  You will then be able to add pages by clicking on the + in the
 Book header and you can also duplicate pages from the menu in the header.

 More details are in the Etoy floss manual Chapter 
 5http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/Etoys/Objects (search
 for book within the page).

 Stephen

 On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 12:54 PM, Caryl Bigenho cbige...@hotmail.comwrote:

  OK, so I have watched the tutorials and even looked at 2 books I have
 about Squeak and still haven't found out how to make a multi-page book or
 slide show like we want to do for the Water Lessons.

 Innocent that I am, I assumed that clicking on the page symbol (looks
 like a page symbol used in other programs) would give me a new page.  I got
 what I thought was a new page.  Constructed it and saved.  Then I discovered
 it created a new* project*, not a new page!  Rats!

 Oh well, the page I lost was just the title page and it will be easy to
 remake it.  However I would like to keep the second page I made, put the
 title page before it and then add several more pages after.

 Is there a link to instructions for doing this?  I don't need to learn
 about loops, variables, tiles and stuff like that... already know that and
 can, and have, taught it.

 Caryl

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Re: [IAEP] Another Etoys Question

2011-01-31 Thread Dr. Gerald Ardito
Cherry,

I am going to be using the manual with some teachers soon.
I will make updates from those sessions.

Gerald

On Monday, January 31, 2011, Cherry Withers cwith...@ekindling.org wrote:
 Hi Carlos,

 The manual is not completely done. It needs editing and we would appreciate 
 all the feedback that we can get.

 If you'd like to spearhead the effort of translating it to Spanish, it will 
 be most appreciated! The original manual was done using FLOSS Manuals.
 You can open an account for free and email them of your intent to start a 
 book or manual and go from there: http://en.flossmanuals.net/

 Thank you for all of your support!

 --Cherry

 On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 9:23 AM, Carlos Rabassa car...@me.com wrote:

 Cherry,
 interesting you mention the manual.
 What is the status of the manual?
 At one point I had volunteered to translate it into Spanish.

 Then there were other volunteers,  then there was some other book and then no 
 more talk.
 My offer is still on.
 Is there anything you think I could start translating about Etoys?

 Carlos Rabassa

 On Jan 31, 2011, at 8:49 PM, Cherry Withers wrote:
 Hi Caryl,

 I wrote that chapter on the manual. I would really like to know if there's 
 anything at all that's unclear about what I wrote.
 I would also be happy to go through it with you on Skype at your convenience.

 Cheers,
 Cherry

 On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 10:59 AM, Steve Thomas sthom...@gosargon.com wrote:

 Caryl,
 From the supplies bin, drag out a book. Then click on the Triangle in the 
 upper left corner of the book (when you hover over it it will say More 
 Controls.  You will then be able to add pages by clicking on the + in the 
 Book header and you can also duplicate pages from the menu in the header.



 More details are in the Etoy floss manual Chapter 
 5 http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/Etoys/Objects (search for book 
 within the page).


 Stephen

 On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 12:54 PM, Caryl Bigenho cbige...@hotmail.com wrote:






 OK, so I have watched the tutorials and even looked at 2 books I have about 
 Squeak and still haven't found out how to make a multi-page book or slide 
 show like we want to do for the Water Lessons.

 Innocent that I am, I assumed that clicking on the page symbol (looks like a 
 page symbol used in other programs) would give me a new page.  I got what I 
 thought was a new page.  Constructed it and saved.  Then I discovered it 
 created a new project, not a new page!  Rats!

 Oh well, the page I lost was just the title page and it will be easy to 
 remake it.  However I would like to keep the second page I made, put the 
 title page before it and then add several more pages after.

 Is there a link to instructions for doing this?  I don't need to learn about 
 loops, variables, tiles and stuff like that... already know that and can, and 
 have, taught it.

 Caryl
   

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Re: [IAEP] planet.sugarlabs.org html/css redesign

2011-01-31 Thread Yamandu Ploskonka

probably Google is used to telling you what you want to hear ... :-)

I see it as #8 
http://www.google.com/search?client=ubuntuchannel=fsq=sugar+planetie=utf-8oe=utf-8



Searching for sugar planet now returns the planet as first result both
in Google and in Duckduckgo. It's still a low hit for sugar blogs or
sugar labs blogs.

IMHO the blurb is good, if maybe too long and cigarette-advisory look 
(which means hard to read, as design goes)


People who know won't care about the blurb, except the minimalists who 
gave us unrecognizable icons for the wireless channels, noobs will find 
it reassuring, and it is a good thing that Google for example shows the 
first lines - otherwise I'd have no idea this is it, unless I went to 
guess the links...


BTW, why is it that the first article is from Sept 6 2010?  Also, I see 
no link to archives.  Is this going to run forever as a single page or 
should older entries be accessible somehow?



 /Planet Sugar/ http://planet.sugarlabs.org/

/Planet Sugar/ is a collection of personal blogs by /Sugar/ Labs 
contributors. /Sugar/ Labs is a world-wide organization of passionate 
people working together to *...*

*planet*.*sugar*labs.org/


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Re: [IAEP] Another Etoys Question

2011-01-31 Thread Cherry Withers
Ooops...so sorry...correction..I didn't write the chapter! Only the book
section.

Thank you Gerald, Carlos and for those who want to help!

On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 1:51 PM, Dr. Gerald Ardito
gerald.ard...@gmail.comwrote:

 Cherry,

 I am going to be using the manual with some teachers soon.
 I will make updates from those sessions.

 Gerald

 On Monday, January 31, 2011, Cherry Withers cwith...@ekindling.org
 wrote:
  Hi Carlos,
 
  The manual is not completely done. It needs editing and we would
 appreciate all the feedback that we can get.
 
  If you'd like to spearhead the effort of translating it to Spanish, it
 will be most appreciated! The original manual was done using FLOSS Manuals.
  You can open an account for free and email them of your intent to start a
 book or manual and go from there: http://en.flossmanuals.net/
 
  Thank you for all of your support!
 
  --Cherry
 
  On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 9:23 AM, Carlos Rabassa car...@me.com wrote:
 
  Cherry,
  interesting you mention the manual.
  What is the status of the manual?
  At one point I had volunteered to translate it into Spanish.
 
  Then there were other volunteers,  then there was some other book and
 then no more talk.
  My offer is still on.
  Is there anything you think I could start translating about Etoys?
 
  Carlos Rabassa
 
  On Jan 31, 2011, at 8:49 PM, Cherry Withers wrote:
  Hi Caryl,
 
  I wrote that chapter on the manual. I would really like to know if
 there's anything at all that's unclear about what I wrote.
  I would also be happy to go through it with you on Skype at your
 convenience.
 
  Cheers,
  Cherry
 
  On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 10:59 AM, Steve Thomas sthom...@gosargon.com
 wrote:
 
  Caryl,
  From the supplies bin, drag out a book. Then click on the Triangle in the
 upper left corner of the book (when you hover over it it will say More
 Controls.  You will then be able to add pages by clicking on the + in the
 Book header and you can also duplicate pages from the menu in the header.
 
 
 
  More details are in the Etoy floss manual Chapter 5 
 http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/Etoys/Objects (search for book
 within the page).
 
 
  Stephen
 
  On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 12:54 PM, Caryl Bigenho cbige...@hotmail.com
 wrote:
 
 
 
 
 
 
  OK, so I have watched the tutorials and even looked at 2 books I have
 about Squeak and still haven't found out how to make a multi-page book or
 slide show like we want to do for the Water Lessons.
 
  Innocent that I am, I assumed that clicking on the page symbol (looks
 like a page symbol used in other programs) would give me a new page.  I got
 what I thought was a new page.  Constructed it and saved.  Then I discovered
 it created a new project, not a new page!  Rats!
 
  Oh well, the page I lost was just the title page and it will be easy to
 remake it.  However I would like to keep the second page I made, put the
 title page before it and then add several more pages after.
 
  Is there a link to instructions for doing this?  I don't need to learn
 about loops, variables, tiles and stuff like that... already know that and
 can, and have, taught it.
 
  Caryl
 
 
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Re: [IAEP] Tools for the community meeting

2011-01-31 Thread Frederick Grose
On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 4:28 PM, Pablo Flores pflor...@gmail.com wrote:

 Next meeting: We're continuing the discussion on Wednesday 02 February 2011
at the same time (9PM UTC, 4PM EST) in #sugar-meeting.

  http://chat.sugarlabs.org:9090/?channels=sugar-meeting

 Did you mean the next Wednesday on the calendar (02 February 2011), or
 Wednesday next week (09 February 2011)?

 Next Wednesday on the calendar (Feb 2nd, after tomorrow).

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Re: [IAEP] [support-gang] Another Etoys Question

2011-01-31 Thread Rita Freudenberg
There is a new link for the manual here:

http://booki.flossmanuals.net/etoys-reference-manual/edit/

Floss manuals updated the system, it is now called booki. It is better to use 
the new link, the old one will probably be removed sometime in the future. 
As for the translation, we'll have to find out how to setup a spanish version. 
We should do it on booki, too. I'll find out how to start it.

Greetings,
Rita
 




On Jan 31, 2011, at 10:54 PM, Cherry Withers wrote:

 Ooops...so sorry...correction..I didn't write the chapter! Only the book 
 section. 
 
 Thank you Gerald, Carlos and for those who want to help!
 
 On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 1:51 PM, Dr. Gerald Ardito gerald.ard...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 Cherry,
 
 I am going to be using the manual with some teachers soon.
 I will make updates from those sessions.
 
 Gerald
 
 On Monday, January 31, 2011, Cherry Withers cwith...@ekindling.org wrote:
  Hi Carlos,
 
  The manual is not completely done. It needs editing and we would appreciate 
  all the feedback that we can get.
 
  If you'd like to spearhead the effort of translating it to Spanish, it will 
  be most appreciated! The original manual was done using FLOSS Manuals.
  You can open an account for free and email them of your intent to start a 
  book or manual and go from there: http://en.flossmanuals.net/
 
  Thank you for all of your support!
 
  --Cherry
 
  On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 9:23 AM, Carlos Rabassa car...@me.com wrote:
 
  Cherry,
  interesting you mention the manual.
  What is the status of the manual?
  At one point I had volunteered to translate it into Spanish.
 
  Then there were other volunteers,  then there was some other book and then 
  no more talk.
  My offer is still on.
  Is there anything you think I could start translating about Etoys?
 
  Carlos Rabassa
 
  On Jan 31, 2011, at 8:49 PM, Cherry Withers wrote:
  Hi Caryl,
 
  I wrote that chapter on the manual. I would really like to know if there's 
  anything at all that's unclear about what I wrote.
  I would also be happy to go through it with you on Skype at your 
  convenience.
 
  Cheers,
  Cherry
 
  On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 10:59 AM, Steve Thomas sthom...@gosargon.com 
  wrote:
 
  Caryl,
  From the supplies bin, drag out a book. Then click on the Triangle in the 
  upper left corner of the book (when you hover over it it will say More 
  Controls.  You will then be able to add pages by clicking on the + in 
  the Book header and you can also duplicate pages from the menu in the 
  header.
 
 
 
  More details are in the Etoy floss manual Chapter 5 
  http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/Etoys/Objects (search for book 
  within the page).
 
 
  Stephen
 
  On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 12:54 PM, Caryl Bigenho cbige...@hotmail.com 
  wrote:
 
 
 
 
 
 
  OK, so I have watched the tutorials and even looked at 2 books I have about 
  Squeak and still haven't found out how to make a multi-page book or slide 
  show like we want to do for the Water Lessons.
 
  Innocent that I am, I assumed that clicking on the page symbol (looks like 
  a page symbol used in other programs) would give me a new page.  I got what 
  I thought was a new page.  Constructed it and saved.  Then I discovered it 
  created a new project, not a new page!  Rats!
 
  Oh well, the page I lost was just the title page and it will be easy to 
  remake it.  However I would like to keep the second page I made, put the 
  title page before it and then add several more pages after.
 
  Is there a link to instructions for doing this?  I don't need to learn 
  about loops, variables, tiles and stuff like that... already know that and 
  can, and have, taught it.
 
  Caryl
 
 
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Re: [IAEP] [support-gang] Another Etoys Question

2011-01-31 Thread Caryl Bigenho

Have they changed the passwords and user names since last summer?  I helped 
write the original XO manual and worked on the Spanish translation of the 
Activities manual. Tonight I can't sign in and the Etoys book doesn't seem to 
be available in the Read mode. I asked for my password via email and it did not 
recognize either of my email addresses.
Caryl

From: r...@isg.cs.uni-magdeburg.de
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 08:54:19 +0100
To: support-g...@lists.laptop.org
CC: car...@me.com; iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org; sthom...@gosargon.com; 
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Subject: Re: [support-gang] [IAEP] Another Etoys Question



There is a new link for the manual here:
http://booki.flossmanuals.net/etoys-reference-manual/edit/
Floss manuals updated the system, it is now called booki. It is better to use 
the new link, the old one will probably be removed sometime in the future. As 
for the translation, we'll have to find out how to setup a spanish version. We 
should do it on booki, too. I'll find out how to start it.
Greetings,Rita 



On Jan 31, 2011, at 10:54 PM, Cherry Withers wrote:Ooops...so 
sorry...correction..I didn't write the chapter! Only the book section. 

Thank you Gerald, Carlos and for those who want to help!

On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 1:51 PM, Dr. Gerald Ardito gerald.ard...@gmail.com 
wrote:

Cherry,



I am going to be using the manual with some teachers soon.

I will make updates from those sessions.



Gerald



On Monday, January 31, 2011, Cherry Withers cwith...@ekindling.org wrote:

 Hi Carlos,



 The manual is not completely done. It needs editing and we would appreciate 
 all the feedback that we can get.



 If you'd like to spearhead the effort of translating it to Spanish, it will 
 be most appreciated! The original manual was done using FLOSS Manuals.

 You can open an account for free and email them of your intent to start a 
 book or manual and go from there: http://en.flossmanuals.net/



 Thank you for all of your support!



 --Cherry



 On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 9:23 AM, Carlos Rabassa car...@me.com wrote:



 Cherry,

 interesting you mention the manual.

 What is the status of the manual?

 At one point I had volunteered to translate it into Spanish.



 Then there were other volunteers,  then there was some other book and then no 
 more talk.

 My offer is still on.

 Is there anything you think I could start translating about Etoys?



 Carlos Rabassa



 On Jan 31, 2011, at 8:49 PM, Cherry Withers wrote:

 Hi Caryl,



 I wrote that chapter on the manual. I would really like to know if there's 
 anything at all that's unclear about what I wrote.

 I would also be happy to go through it with you on Skype at your convenience.



 Cheers,

 Cherry



 On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 10:59 AM, Steve Thomas sthom...@gosargon.com wrote:



 Caryl,

 From the supplies bin, drag out a book. Then click on the Triangle in the 
 upper left corner of the book (when you hover over it it will say More 
 Controls.  You will then be able to add pages by clicking on the + in the 
 Book header and you can also duplicate pages from the menu in the header.








 More details are in the Etoy floss manual Chapter 5 
 http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/Etoys/Objects (search for book within 
 the page).






 Stephen



 On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 12:54 PM, Caryl Bigenho cbige...@hotmail.com wrote:













 OK, so I have watched the tutorials and even looked at 2 books I have about 
 Squeak and still haven't found out how to make a multi-page book or slide 
 show like we want to do for the Water Lessons.



 Innocent that I am, I assumed that clicking on the page symbol (looks like a 
 page symbol used in other programs) would give me a new page.  I got what I 
 thought was a new page.  Constructed it and saved.  Then I discovered it 
 created a new project, not a new page!  Rats!




 Oh well, the page I lost was just the title page and it will be easy to 
 remake it.  However I would like to keep the second page I made, put the 
 title page before it and then add several more pages after.



 Is there a link to instructions for doing this?  I don't need to learn about 
 loops, variables, tiles and stuff like that... already know that and can, and 
 have, taught it.



 Caryl





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