Re: [IAEP] Video player for wiki.sugarlabs.org

2011-11-10 Thread Sean DALY
Our contact at Dailymotion helped us upload Ogg, our brief was that it
be specifically compatible with XOs.

Our friends at the OLPC France association had assisted:
http://www.dailymotion.com/en/factory/olpc

Sean



On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 6:06 AM, Bernie Innocenti ber...@sugarlabs.org wrote:
 On Wed, 2011-11-09 at 23:17 -0500, Samuel Greenfeld wrote:
 Try tweaking the URL for XOs to use the olpc.dailymotion.com domain.

 The interface will scale itself down to make it XO-1 compatible.

 For example, in this case: http://olpc.dailymotion.com/sugarlabs

 It works! It uses neither flash, nor html5: the video plays in the Totem
 plugin.

 But... only very few videos are available. Probably, only those that
 have been uploaded in the ogg-theora format. I'm sure Totem could play
 also the other videos because I added all the patent-encumbered codecs.

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Re: [IAEP] Questions to SLOB candidates

2011-11-10 Thread Christoph Derndorfer

Am 08.11.2011 07:45, schrieb Sridhar Dhanapalan:

On 8 November 2011 00:04, Christoph Derndorfer
e0425...@student.tuwien.ac.at  wrote:

Hi all,

Sascha, you make an excellent point here, I was thinking along the same
lines when I re-read the various candidate statements this morning.

Personally I'd also be interested in taking this one step further and
creating a lively debate. Two ideas I've been thinking about are:

(a) An IRC discussion with all the candidates next Tuesday or Wednesday
before the election starts. This would give all Sugar Labs members a chance
to directly interact with the candidates by asking questions. Additionally
it could lead to some interesting discussions among the candidates whereas I
fear that discussions here on the list will be more unidirectional (e.g.
with the candidates simply answering the questions Sascha mentions below but
not commenting on each other's answers and ideas).
(b) Organizing a Skype, Gtalk, or Google+ Hangout session with the same
purpose. While text-based communication has some advantages (e.g. it's easy
to search, reference, etc.) I personally really like hearing people's voices
and real-time reactions to discussions and arguments.

For all these things we could use a wiki page or even something like Google
Moderator (http://moderator.appspot.com/) to collect questions from the
community in advance.

Thoughts anyone?

Cheers,
Christoph


Considering that I'm a candidate, I don't want to interfere in the
process. However, I think this is a good idea in principle. I won't be
available next week (I'll be at the OSDC conference in Canberra [1]),
but I'm happy to participate otherwise.


Okay, seeing that we have less than a week to go until the elections and 
the feedback for this idea has been very limited I'm starting to wonder 
whether it even makes sense to dedicate any time to setting this up...


Yes? No? Cancel?

Cheers,
Christoph

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Re: [IAEP] [SoaS] SoaS v7?

2011-11-10 Thread Thomas C Gilliard
This is an example of a dd writable SoaS-v2.img file which produces a 
fully functional Conventional install on a USB. This is equivalent to a 
liveinst install to USB.[1]


   It was first suggested by bernie [2] in early 2010 as a better
   alternative to the currently used live USB SoaS filesystems with
   their fragile and limited sized overlay, 


   * This functionality is expected to be included in fedora 17
 liveinst (Anaconda)
   * It would be even nicer to be able to create and install to USB,
 the Soas-v7.img file directly from the first sugar boot screen as
 a third option line, rather from a obscure liveinst command in
 terminal.


[1] 
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit#A-Non-Live_.28real_file_structured.29_USB 
(a working 4GB dd Soas-v2.img file and description. As proof of concept)
[2] http://people.sugarlabs.org/Tgillard/Direct_Soas.txt   (Original 
Announcement)


SoaS-v6 is great...thanks

Tom Gilliard
satellit_

On 11/09/2011 04:18 PM, Peter Robinson wrote:

Hi All,

So there's no rest for the wicked its time to think about what you
would like to develop for SoaS v7. I know upstream is all very busy
already the sugar team are full pelt into the conversion of sugar
to gtk3 and PyGI and there's all sorts of fun stuff going into
Fedora... so what do you want?

Peter
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Re: [IAEP] Video player for wiki.sugarlabs.org

2011-11-10 Thread Bernie Innocenti
On Thu, 2011-11-10 at 00:18 -0500, Chris Leonard wrote:
 
 
 On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 10:45 PM, Bernie Innocenti
 ber...@sugarlabs.org wrote:
 On Thu, 2011-11-10 at 03:12 +, Alan Jhonn Aguiar Schwyn
 wrote:
 
 
  And... Why not use Adobe Flash? Problems with the license?
 
 
 Yes, it's not even redistributable. Besides, there's no ARM
 version for
 the XO-1.75.
 
 And even if both problems were solved, flash is typically too
 slow to
 play videos on hardware as the XO-1. On the XO-1.5 it's barely
 acceptable for low resolution videos.
 
 
 
 
 Gnash overcomes the redistribution issue, but not necessarily the
 performance ones.

Yes. Quite frankly, Gnash is still so bad that it'd be inclined to
remove it altogether from XO distributions.

One could make a case that half-broken flash support is still better
than nothing, but I think it makes us look worse than systems like iOS
and Android which don't provide flash at all.

Moreover, some video sites detect the presence of flash and use it
instead of HTML5 video. Daily Motion is one of these.


 Sugar Labs has friends in the Gnash community we could ask about this,
 they've been working (with some sucecss, I think) on XO 1.75
 implemetnation and of course, we do host their PO files for L10n, and
 have recently upstreamed a number of completed L10ns.

I use Gnash on my computer and I report bugs to the developers from time
to time. Though, after so many years of development, I'm starting to
suspect that HTML5 will make Flash irrelevant before Gnash replaces it.

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Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] meeting announcement

2011-11-10 Thread Bernie Innocenti
On Thu, 2011-11-10 at 10:09 -0500, Chris Ball wrote:
 Hi,
 
 On Sat, Nov 05 2011, Walter Bender wrote:
  We'll be meeting with the SFC's Bradley Kuhn and the Conservancy's new
  General Counsel, Tony Sebro, to discuss how the Conservancy-local labs
  model might be shaped and improved.
 
  Please join us in irc.freenode.net #sugar-meeting on 2011-11-10 at 15UTC.
 
 This is happening now, but we're still waiting for a SLOBs quorum.
 Can anyone else join?

I'm sorry for missing the meeting. I had a dentist appointment this
morning and it took longer than I had expected.

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Re: [IAEP] Songs Needed for Tam Tam Mini FLOSS Manual

2011-11-10 Thread nanonano

/On 09/11/2011 05:03 p.m., ana.cichero wrote:
... has a collection of songs with tam tam. I think this is his mail ernestobaq...@gmail.com 
mailto:ernestobaq...@gmail.com/

---




It is  Correct, Ana, that is Ernesto's Mailbox

ernestobaq...@gmail.com

Paolo Benini
Montevideo

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Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] meeting announcement

2011-11-10 Thread Walter Bender
On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 1:32 PM, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote:
 On Thu, 2011-11-10 at 10:09 -0500, Chris Ball wrote:
 Hi,

 On Sat, Nov 05 2011, Walter Bender wrote:
  We'll be meeting with the SFC's Bradley Kuhn and the Conservancy's new
  General Counsel, Tony Sebro, to discuss how the Conservancy-local labs
  model might be shaped and improved.
 
  Please join us in irc.freenode.net #sugar-meeting on 2011-11-10 at 15UTC.

 This is happening now, but we're still waiting for a SLOBs quorum.
 Can anyone else join?

 I'm sorry for missing the meeting. I had a dentist appointment this
 morning and it took longer than I had expected.

NP. The log is here:

http://meeting.sugarlabs.org/sugar-meeting/meetings/2011-11-10T15:19:07

regards.

-walter

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Re: [IAEP] Video player for wiki.sugarlabs.org

2011-11-10 Thread Sascha Silbe
Excerpts from Bernie Innocenti's message of 2011-11-10 19:20:20 +0100:

 I use Gnash on my computer and I report bugs to the developers from time
 to time. Though, after so many years of development, I'm starting to
 suspect that HTML5 will make Flash irrelevant before Gnash replaces it.

It already did:

http://www.engadget.com/2011/11/09/adobe-confirms-flash-player-is-dead-for-mobile-devices/

Cheers,
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Re: [IAEP] Video player for wiki.sugarlabs.org

2011-11-10 Thread Bernie Innocenti
On Thu, 2011-11-10 at 23:24 +0100, Sascha Silbe wrote:
 Excerpts from Bernie Innocenti's message of 2011-11-10 19:20:20 +0100:
 
  I use Gnash on my computer and I report bugs to the developers from time
  to time. Though, after so many years of development, I'm starting to
  suspect that HTML5 will make Flash irrelevant before Gnash replaces it.
 
 It already did:
 
 http://www.engadget.com/2011/11/09/adobe-confirms-flash-player-is-dead-for-mobile-devices/

Finally. Flash was the only piece of proprietary crap that I was still
forced to use from time to time.

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Re: [IAEP] Video player for wiki.sugarlabs.org

2011-11-10 Thread Bernie Innocenti
On Thu, 2011-11-10 at 11:34 +0100, Sean DALY wrote:
 Our contact at Dailymotion helped us upload Ogg, our brief was that it
 be specifically compatible with XOs.
 
 Our friends at the OLPC France association had assisted:
 http://www.dailymotion.com/en/factory/olpc

Nice! Do you have a technical contact?

I'd like to ask them if they can export WebM and h234 videos alongside
with ogg-theora for the deployments that are using a Dextrose derivative
(and those who added the patented codecs independently).

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[IAEP] REMINDER: Candidates list for 2011-2012 elections closes this Tuesday (Nov 15)

2011-11-10 Thread Luke Faraone
On 08/10/11 17:12, Luke Faraone wrote:
  - 2011-11-15 23:59 EST: Candidate list closed.

We currently have 6 candidates for 3 board seats. The deadline for
announcing your candidacy is Tuesday, November 15; ballots will be sent
out the next day.

If you are on the fence about running, please decide one way or another
soon :) then follow the procedure below:

 == Candidacy ==
 
 If you or somebody you know should be on the ballot, make sure to
 publish an announcement of candidacy to IAEP, and put your name on the
 list[2] before the end of October.

 [2]: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Oversight_Board/2011-2012-candidates
 

Thanks,

Luke Faraone
Membership and Elections Committee
Sugar Labs



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