Re: [IAEP] [support-gang] Robot runs on MSP430 + OLPC XO - QA and updated bundle request

2012-11-26 Thread Dr. Gerald Ardito
Thanks, Yama.
Nice job with the circuit diagram.

Looking forward to answerJerry!
Gerald


On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 12:48 AM, Yama Ploskonka  wrote:

>  Thank you for the interest, Gerald.
> I have uploaded a circuit diagram, and will be working on explaining
> what's what there
> BTW, I did the drawing on an XO 1, using Inkscape in Gnome. Slower than
> the quad core, but works!
>
> http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php/Bouncy_Robot_Linux_code
>
> let's ask Jerry (no pun: his website is http://askjerry.info) for the
> frame design - he has also a nifty tractor body design there.
>
> Hey Jerry! do you have handy  the blueprint of the tricycle that we may
> share it with the friends here?
> Thanks!
>
>
>
> On 11/25/2012 08:32 AM, Dr. Gerald Ardito wrote:
>
> Yama,
>
>  This is really great. And thanks for updating the wiki (sorry about the
> cold, though).
> Can you provide specifics on the hardware/frame for the robot?
>
> Thanks.
> Gerald
>
>
> On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 9:20 PM, Yama Ploskonka wrote:
>
>>  Bouncy robot powered by mspgcc+olpc/Sugar+msp430
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-jrNkWtavM
>>
>> So far mspdebug Linux tools "work" in OLPC's XO computer using the
>> directions in
>> http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php/OLPC_XO-1 (major overhaul today,
>> courtesy of a cold/flu)
>>
>> 1) I beg mspdebug people to vet excessive heresies this noob might have
>> introduced in the How-To in that page.
>> So far I am managing without -mcu - or -gdb.
>> I actually have no idea what those are for, or if their unavailability
>> explains my so far failure to UART, or if we should care... (for many
>> things, it ain't broken...)
>>
>> 2) Fedora packaging people: any way to package
>> mspdebug msp430-libc msp430-binutils msp430-gcc msp430mcu msp430-gdb ?
>> What gets downloaded through yum channels in the XO is very, very
>> outdated, and conflicts (cf. mcu and libc).
>> Please feel free to forward, as I have no access to "real" Fedora people
>> - don't even know where to look for them without making a nuisance of
>> myself and undue noise, and certainly do not know who could maybe make a
>> "package"(?) usable for the XO. Will this be fixable for the next OLPC OS?
>> Daniel?
>>
>> 3) Robotics, Science, Sensors OLPC, IAEP people, please, if you could
>> test the GCC toolchain?
>> You do not need to have a Launchpad on hand. I am trying to catch bugs
>> and usability issues. Are the instructions clear? as much as possible
>> figuring out snags so it's easier for kids and normal people.
>>
>> *robot*
>> The brains of this "bouncy" are an MSP430 microcontroller (a lowly g2152)
>> controlling a L293 dual H bridge, senses two switches. Its brawn a couple
>> geared DC motors on 9V PWM in an askjerry tricycle frame. Not counting
>> shipping, less than USD $10 total. Coded in an XO-1 all the way. Enormous
>> thanks to the mspgcc folks that helped me figure things like how to use
>> more than one switch...
>>
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Re: [IAEP] Notice to GCI mentors

2012-11-26 Thread Chris Leonard
Also,

Please try to hang out in #sugar.

As Luke noted, we may not have prepared adequately for the Zerg rush.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=zerg+rush

Click the link, trust me, you won't regret it  :-)

cjl

On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 11:12 PM, Chris Leonard
 wrote:
> Dear GCI mentors for Sugar Labs,
>
> First, thank you for volunteering your time and effort to help the GCI
> participants to help Sugar Labs and our users.
>
> The GCI website will open to student sign-up shortly, so we can expect
> to begin seeing requests from students to take on tasks.
>
> The purpose of GCI is to help foster the next generation of FOSS
> contributors, so I think we should maintain high standards in judging
> the completeness and acceptance of their submissions, although not
> unreasonably so.
>
> Please note that the timeliness of replies for action requests (assign
> tasks, mark as complete, etc.) are very important.  A student is
> prevented from moving on to request another task while they have a
> task open, so it is critical that students be given the courtesy of
> rapid reviews of their work.
>
> Warmest Regards,
>
> cjl
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Re: [IAEP] Sugar Digest 2012-11-25

2012-11-26 Thread Daniel Narvaez
On 26 November 2012 02:34, Daniel Francis  wrote:
> On Sun, 25 Nov 2012 19:43:35 -0500
> Walter Bender  wrote:
>> 3. Daniel Narvaez has made a number of improvements to sugar-build
>> [5], which has by-and-large replaced sugar-jhbuild as the preferred
>> development environment for Fedora and Ubuntu.
>
> Congratulations to Daniel Narvaez, who does this very important work. 
> Specially where jhbuild stops to work properly always.
>
> Something I don't like completely is that people can contribute to Sugar only 
> from Ubuntu or Fedora, but knowing that jhbuild stopped working in Ubuntu and 
> Debian, it's a terrific improvement.
> A new important step would be support other up-to-date GNU/Linux distros 
> souch as Debian Testing, ArchLinux, Gentoo, et al. But that should come from 
> the Sugar contributors who use those other distros.

Hi,

I agree with both your points here. It would be important to support
more distributions and someone else needs to step in for that to be
possible.

To facilitate this, I'm streamlining a bit the process of adding a
distribution and documenting it. I will post a link to the docs as
soon as I have it.

I'm also be available to help out whoever is interested in
contributing support for a new distribution.
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Re: [IAEP] Notice to GCI mentors

2012-11-26 Thread Bastien
Chris Leonard  writes:

> Please try to hang out in #sugar.

Sorry, I don't have time.  I don't even have the time to hang out on
Emacs #orgmode, the project I'm maintaining.

> As Luke noted, we may not have prepared adequately for the Zerg rush.
>
> http://lmgtfy.com/?q=zerg+rush
>
> Click the link, trust me, you won't regret it  :-)

I'm ready for it :)

-- 
 Bastien
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[IAEP] OLPC meeting in Stuttgart, Germany this Saturday

2012-11-26 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Forwarding this announcement just in case some German-speaking folks are not 
subscribed to our mailing list. Everybody is welcome, but you'll hear a lot of 
German :)

- Bert -

Begin forwarded message:

> From: Sebastian Umlauft 
> Subject: 01.12.2012 OLPC Community und Vereinstreffen in Stuttgart (Samstag 
> ab 13:30 Uhr)
> Date: 25. November 2012 21:29:18 MEZ
> To: olpc-de-int...@lists.olpc-deutschland.de, olpc...@lists.laptop.org
> 
> Hallo OLPC Freunde,
> 
> am 01.12.2012 findet ab 13:30 Uhr in Stuttgart unser OLPC Community und 
> Vereinstreffen statt.
> 
> Kurze Agenda und Locations:
> - Ab 13:30h Treffen im Forum3-Cafe in der Gymnasiumstr. 21: 
> http://www.forum3.de/cafe/das-forum-cafe/
> - Um 15 Uhr zum Arbeitsmeeting für ca. 4 Stunden mit
>   Möglichkeit 1 --> Coworking-Stuttgart in der Gutenbergstr. 77
> (kostet einen Beitrag für jeden, 2008 haben 
> wir uns in Berlin auch in einem
>Co-working Space gegründet): 
> http://coworking-stuttgart.de/
>   Möglichkeit 2 --> M+W Group, in der Lotterbergstr. 30 (ca. 15 Minuten 
> Autofahrt,
>kostet uns nix): 
> http://www.mwgroup.net/en/contact/contact_us.html
>wir würden aber den Co-working space bevorzugen
> 
> - Ca. 20 Uhr zum Abendessen (werden wir noch was nettes suchen)
> 
> 
> Kurzentschlossene können sich noch in die Doodle Liste eintragen, mir eine 
> Mail schreiben oder einfach so vorbeikommen.
> http://doodle.com/pgixh79ptnwcysz5?
> 
> Bis nächsten Samstag,
> Grüße,
> Sebastian Umlauft
> 0170-7520115

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Re: [IAEP] Sugar Digest 2012-11-25

2012-11-26 Thread Samy Boutayeb
Le lundi 26 novembre 2012 à 15:36 +0100, Daniel Narvaez a écrit :
> On 26 November 2012 02:34, Daniel Francis  wrote:
> > On Sun, 25 Nov 2012 19:43:35 -0500
> > Walter Bender  wrote:
> >> 3. Daniel Narvaez has made a number of improvements to sugar-build
> >> [5], which has by-and-large replaced sugar-jhbuild as the preferred
> >> development environment for Fedora and Ubuntu.
> >
> > Congratulations to Daniel Narvaez, who does this very important work. 
> > Specially where jhbuild stops to work properly always.
> >
Here, in Debian wheezy/sid, jbuild build without blocking issue, whereas
jhbuild failed building terminal, ending up with non buildable
components (meta-fructose, meta-sugar, terminal)

So, with build, for example, the icons in the UI are at least visible
and core activities such as TurtleArt are functional.

Rgds,
samy

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Re: [IAEP] Notice to GCI mentors

2012-11-26 Thread James Simmons
Chris,

I don't think it will be possible for me to spend much time in IRC.  I am
pretty good replying to email at this address.  I have it open in a tab all
day at work.  I can also do Skype calls in the evenings.

James Simmons

On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 8:19 AM, Chris Leonard wrote:

> Also,
>
> Please try to hang out in #sugar.
>
> As Luke noted, we may not have prepared adequately for the Zerg rush.
>
> http://lmgtfy.com/?q=zerg+rush
>
> Click the link, trust me, you won't regret it  :-)
>
> cjl
>
> On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 11:12 PM, Chris Leonard
>  wrote:
> > Dear GCI mentors for Sugar Labs,
> >
> > First, thank you for volunteering your time and effort to help the GCI
> > participants to help Sugar Labs and our users.
> >
> > The GCI website will open to student sign-up shortly, so we can expect
> > to begin seeing requests from students to take on tasks.
> >
> > The purpose of GCI is to help foster the next generation of FOSS
> > contributors, so I think we should maintain high standards in judging
> > the completeness and acceptance of their submissions, although not
> > unreasonably so.
> >
> > Please note that the timeliness of replies for action requests (assign
> > tasks, mark as complete, etc.) are very important.  A student is
> > prevented from moving on to request another task while they have a
> > task open, so it is critical that students be given the courtesy of
> > rapid reviews of their work.
> >
> > Warmest Regards,
> >
> > cjl
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Re: [IAEP] OLPC meeting in Stuttgart, Germany this Saturday

2012-11-26 Thread Alan Kay
The language of Goethe after all!

Cheers,

Alan





>
> From: Bert Freudenberg 
>To: olpc-open ; Support Gangsters 
>; "iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org SugarLabs" 
> 
>Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 6:56 AM
>Subject: [IAEP] OLPC meeting in Stuttgart, Germany this Saturday
> 
>Forwarding this announcement just in case some German-speaking folks are not 
>subscribed to our mailing list. Everybody is welcome, but you'll hear a lot of 
>German :)
>
>- Bert -
>
>Begin forwarded message:
>
>> From: Sebastian Umlauft 
>> Subject: 01.12.2012 OLPC Community und Vereinstreffen in Stuttgart (Samstag 
>> ab 13:30 Uhr)
>> Date: 25. November 2012 21:29:18 MEZ
>> To: olpc-de-int...@lists.olpc-deutschland.de, olpc...@lists.laptop.org
>> 
>> Hallo OLPC Freunde,
>> 
>> am 01.12.2012 findet ab 13:30 Uhr in Stuttgart unser OLPC Community und 
>> Vereinstreffen statt.
>> 
>> Kurze Agenda und Locations:
>> - Ab 13:30h Treffen im Forum3-Cafe in der Gymnasiumstr. 21: 
>> http://www.forum3.de/cafe/das-forum-cafe/
>> - Um 15 Uhr zum Arbeitsmeeting für ca. 4 Stunden mit
>>       Möglichkeit 1 --> Coworking-Stuttgart in der Gutenbergstr. 77
>>                                 (kostet einen Beitrag für jeden, 2008 haben 
>>wir uns in Berlin auch in einem
>>                                Co-working Space gegründet): 
>>http://coworking-stuttgart.de/
>>       Möglichkeit 2 --> M+W Group, in der Lotterbergstr. 30 (ca. 15 Minuten 
>>Autofahrt,
>>                                kostet uns nix): 
>>http://www.mwgroup.net/en/contact/contact_us.html
>>                                wir würden aber den Co-working space 
>>bevorzugen
>> 
>> - Ca. 20 Uhr zum Abendessen (werden wir noch was nettes suchen)
>> 
>> 
>> Kurzentschlossene können sich noch in die Doodle Liste eintragen, mir eine 
>> Mail schreiben oder einfach so vorbeikommen.
>> http://doodle.com/pgixh79ptnwcysz5?
>> 
>> Bis nächsten Samstag,
>> Grüße,
>> Sebastian Umlauft
>> 0170-7520115
>
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Re: [IAEP] Sugar Digest 2012-11-25

2012-11-26 Thread Daniel Narvaez
On 26 November 2012 15:58, Samy Boutayeb  wrote:
> Le lundi 26 novembre 2012 à 15:36 +0100, Daniel Narvaez a écrit :
>> On 26 November 2012 02:34, Daniel Francis  wrote:
>> > On Sun, 25 Nov 2012 19:43:35 -0500
>> > Walter Bender  wrote:
>> >> 3. Daniel Narvaez has made a number of improvements to sugar-build
>> >> [5], which has by-and-large replaced sugar-jhbuild as the preferred
>> >> development environment for Fedora and Ubuntu.
>> >
>> > Congratulations to Daniel Narvaez, who does this very important work. 
>> > Specially where jhbuild stops to work properly always.
>> >
> Here, in Debian wheezy/sid, jbuild build without blocking issue, whereas
> jhbuild failed building terminal, ending up with non buildable
> components (meta-fructose, meta-sugar, terminal)
>
> So, with build, for example, the icons in the UI are at least visible
> and core activities such as TurtleArt are functional.

That's good news, it should not be too difficult to add support for it then.
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