Re: [IAEP] Sugar DIgest 2015-05-26
Just saw the news as well. https://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2015-May/msg00027.html I exchanged a few notes with him about his illness some time ago (my mother had the same. She passed away a few months ago). Marco seemed to be doing better. His work will live on. Sameer On May 26, 2015 6:28 AM, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com wrote: 1. It is with great sadness that write these words: Marco Presenti Gritti, the principal Sugar developer from Red Hat from 2006 to 2008 and one of the founders of Sugar Labs, passed away this past weekend after a long illness. Marco was a brilliant engineer whose work still reverberates throughout the Sugar stack and a warm, personable colleague, father, and husband. We will miss you Marco. == Sugar Digest == 2. For those of you who are interested, we hold our GSoC group meetings on Fridays, 11:00 EST (Boston), 14:00 UTC on irc.freenode.net #sugar-meeting. === Tech Talk === 3. Peter Robinson, Sam Parkinson, Sean Daly, and Iain Brown Douglas have done a great job of revamping the Sugar on a Stick spin site for Fedora. Please see [1]. === Sugar Labs === 4. Please visit our planet [2]. --- [1] http://spins.stg.fedoraproject.org/en/soas/ [2] http://planet.sugarlabs.org -walter -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Sugar all-hands meeting
The next Sugar Labs oversight board meeting is on Monday. Anyone in the community is, as always, welcome to suggest discussion topics. -walter On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 1:28 PM, Samuel Greenfeld sam...@greenfeld.org wrote: I know there have been various board and development meetings for Sugar. But I would like to propose having an all-hands meeting where anyone in the Sugar community as well as related groups (deployments, schoolserver, etc.) could raise a topic and attend. If there are few enough people, we might be able to do this with a Google Hangout. For larger crowds we should try to get permission to use an international conference bridge (to avoid a dozen echo cancelers getting confused by each other). There are a lot of things that need to be done that I suspect could happen given a wider audience. --- SJG ___ Sugar-devel mailing list sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Sugar all-hands meeting
Looking at past minutes, I think I am proposing more of a change in procedure than topics for the oversight meeting. We need to get more people involved than are present in the IRC meetings. In general I am echoing what was said on the Planning for the Future email thread from three months ago. But some topics (for the oversight meeting or an all-hands meeting) would be: 1. What can Sugar publicly commit to having in terms of users/developers/finances/etc. beyond what was mentioned in the deployment survey. Witness Dan's complaints over the 3 million number, James noting no one filed a bug report for Sugar 0.105.1 yet, the lack of candidates for past elections, the lack of interaction between the XS development and Sugar development communities, etc. It also would be useful to know what users/developers/etc. could publicly commit to Sugar. 2. What is being done to address the main issues raised by deployments in the latest development survey. 3. A complete holistic overhaul of how releases are done and marketed. Sugar was originally created with a if you build it, they will come approach that many community members have at least privately complained about. We need real-world examples of how to integrate Sugar with curriculums, reference deployments willing to speak with prospective ones, etc. Setting up Sugar needs to be no harder than a child using it for the first time. 4. What is being done to attract new deployments, developers (besides GSoC) and project sponsors. 5. I would like to propose a Sugar Ambassador program similar to the Fedora one where less-technical members of the community could engage with other groups to figure out what they would need to use Sugar. This does not necessarily mean that we need to fly them everywhere; but it would give us a good idea of what might be required to obtain gain certain types of deployments. On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 1:47 PM, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com wrote: The next Sugar Labs oversight board meeting is on Monday. Anyone in the community is, as always, welcome to suggest discussion topics. -walter On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 1:28 PM, Samuel Greenfeld sam...@greenfeld.org wrote: I know there have been various board and development meetings for Sugar. But I would like to propose having an all-hands meeting where anyone in the Sugar community as well as related groups (deployments, schoolserver, etc.) could raise a topic and attend. If there are few enough people, we might be able to do this with a Google Hangout. For larger crowds we should try to get permission to use an international conference bridge (to avoid a dozen echo cancelers getting confused by each other). There are a lot of things that need to be done that I suspect could happen given a wider audience. --- SJG ___ Sugar-devel mailing list sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] sugar numbers
On Mon, May 25, 2015 at 7:59 AM, Dan Tenason dan.tena...@mail.ru wrote: Dan - if you are sincerely interested in the numbers, why don't you write to the education ministries? In serious research, as in serious journalism, you need to consult official sources. Sean Daly (no e) I would like to thank everyone for their responses. They findings of Mr Holt, Ms Edwards-Thro, and Mr Silva correlate with my own findings in those countries, less than 100% of XO laptops are in daily use. How long will the website will continue to state 3 million users when that number, and the method used to calculate it, have been shown to be overstated. Is dismissing the questioner as a troll an academically honest solution to resolving the discrepancy? Until the web site is not updated, will be as is today. I see the numbers are important for you, but we want redesign the site, and need volunteers to prepare the content and the design. (You already see my email a time ago about this) We have many reasons to change the web site, we need people to work on that. And we want a professional work, that is the reason I don't try to modify it, because I am a developer, and developer suck at design ;/ And the content is not easy, in the last days, a few members of the community worked in the content for the SoaS page, ( https://spins.fedoraproject.org/soas/) and that took a lot of mail interchanges and time. Gonzalo -- Dan Tenason ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- Gonzalo Odiard SugarLabs - Software for children learning ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Sugar DIgest 2015-05-26
On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 10:28 AM, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com wrote: 1. It is with great sadness that write these words: Marco Presenti Gritti, the principal Sugar developer from Red Hat from 2006 to 2008 and one of the founders of Sugar Labs, passed away this past weekend after a long illness. Marco was a brilliant engineer whose work still reverberates throughout the Sugar stack and a warm, personable colleague, father, and husband. We will miss you Marco. Our condolences to his family and friends. I din't have the luck of work with him, but his work is everywhere in Sugar, we can dedicate 0.106 to him. Gonzalo ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-news] Sugar DIgest 2015-05-26
I never had to chance to meet Marco but I can say that I only have heard wonderful things about him, as a human being and as an engineer. My most sincere condolences to his family and friends. On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 5:07 PM, Christoph Derndorfer christ...@olpcnews.com wrote: On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 3:28 PM, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com wrote: 1. It is with great sadness that write these words: Marco Presenti Gritti, the principal Sugar developer from Red Hat from 2006 to 2008 and one of the founders of Sugar Labs, passed away this past weekend after a long illness. Marco was a brilliant engineer whose work still reverberates throughout the Sugar stack and a warm, personable colleague, father, and husband. We will miss you Marco. Thank you for sharing this sad news which I - and I assume many others here - would have missed otherwise. Reading it made me go back through my e-mail and photo archives and I found this shot from FUDCon Brno in September 2008: [image: Inline image 1] I'll always remember mpg like that: A brilliant and cheerful software engineer amidst like-minded and equally friendly and dedicated software geniuses who built the foundations of Sugar. And +1 to Gonzalo's suggestions of dedicating 0.106 to Marco and his young family! If anyone has his physical address please let me know as I'd love send my condolences to his two Danielas in this time of sadness and mourning. Christoph == Sugar Digest == 2. For those of you who are interested, we hold our GSoC group meetings on Fridays, 11:00 EST (Boston), 14:00 UTC on irc.freenode.net #sugar-meeting. === Tech Talk === 3. Peter Robinson, Sam Parkinson, Sean Daly, and Iain Brown Douglas have done a great job of revamping the Sugar on a Stick spin site for Fedora. Please see [1]. === Sugar Labs === 4. Please visit our planet [2]. --- [1] http://spins.stg.fedoraproject.org/en/soas/ [2] http://planet.sugarlabs.org -walter -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ Community-news mailing list community-n...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/community-news -- Christoph Derndorfer volunteer, OLPC (Austria) [www.olpc.at] editor, OLPC News [www.olpcnews.com] co-founder, TechnikBasteln® [www.technikbasteln.net] e-mail: christ...@derndorfer.eu ___ Community-news mailing list community-n...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/community-news ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [Marketing] Sugar all-hands meeting
On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 6:28 PM, Samuel Greenfeld sam...@greenfeld.org wrote: I know there have been various board and development meetings for Sugar. But I would like to propose having an all-hands meeting where anyone in the Sugar community as well as related groups (deployments, schoolserver, etc.) could raise a topic and attend. If there are few enough people, we might be able to do this with a Google Hangout. For larger crowds we should try to get permission to use an international conference bridge (to avoid a dozen echo cancelers getting confused by each other). There are a lot of things that need to be done that I suspect could happen given a wider audience. What topics are you proposing to address or outline in such a call? Ultimately a all hands call needs to be well overseen to ensure that it's actually effective. I think the first part of that is to define what needs to be covered on such call. ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] Sugar all-hands meeting
I know there have been various board and development meetings for Sugar. But I would like to propose having an all-hands meeting where anyone in the Sugar community as well as related groups (deployments, schoolserver, etc.) could raise a topic and attend. If there are few enough people, we might be able to do this with a Google Hangout. For larger crowds we should try to get permission to use an international conference bridge (to avoid a dozen echo cancelers getting confused by each other). There are a lot of things that need to be done that I suspect could happen given a wider audience. --- SJG ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
