Re: [IAEP] use of XOs

[Tony Anderson]

I think this started with an observation from Adam. We have used 
deployment in the community to refer to the institution where the 
laptops are located and the overall environment; hence, the Deployment 
Guide. In our current context, Uruguay is not a deployment but each 
school in Uruguay with laptops is a deployment. Some may be doing well, 
some not so well.


Intervention sounds like taking some action in an ongoing situation. 
This is rare (Uruguay, Peru, Rwanda may justify intervention since the 
deployments were and are being put in place by the national government 
(Ministry of Education). In many others, a deployment is made by a 
sponsor ($) and a dedicated individual or team who visit the school or 
institution, deliver the hardware, set the system up, and provide 
initial training. Intervention does not sound like the right word for 
these cases.


What we need to understand by deployment or 'intervention' is a school 
or institution which has multiple laptops (normally XOs) and, possibly a 
school server and lan, and, probably little or no access to the internet.


From a Sugar community perspective, we are talking about a 'customer' 
or 'client'.


Maybe 'olpc site' would be good - where olpc is the community name not 
the commercial OLPC.


Tony

On 04/25/2016 08:12 PM, Sebastian Silva wrote:



El 25/04/16 a las 06:11, Sean DALY escribió:


the same thing that OLPC called a "deployment" (which I think is
a poor marketing term, since it has US-imperial/military overtones.)



Deployment is the common IT term for rolling out a solution, with 
everything connected to it (logistics, support).
Laura an I are using 'intervention' as we think Sugar users are not 
common IT and /deployment/ does sound like an impositive, top down 
approach.


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Re: [IAEP] use of XOs

[Dave Crossland]

On 25 April 2016 at 13:42, Sebastian Silva 
wrote:

> I love the word Workshop. In spanish it does
> not carry the "training session" meaning as much as a place filled with
> tools to work with (such as an artisan shop).
>

The closely English word is "studio"
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Re: [IAEP] Is "Most Sugar Users Use XO Laptops" True?

[Dave Crossland]

Hi

2016-04-25 13:04 GMT-04:00 José Miguel García :

>  Depende del sistema operativo que tenga, pues varios prefieren windows...
>

Do you think they would use Sugar on Windows, if it was packaged into a
'one click' virtual machine?

I also wonder about ways to make Sugar desktop available in a web
browser Perhaps like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fr8eo4RlPw4 and
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2DH8bpCf1s  :)


> Yo tampoco se inglés, por lo que el traductor es importante para mi!
>

:)

Cheers
Dave
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Re: [IAEP] Is "Most Sugar Users Use XO Laptops" True?

[Dave Crossland]

Hi!

THANK YOU!! This is great :D

On 25 April 2016 at 08:41, José Miguel García 
wrote:

> No todas las laptops de los docentes tienen Sugar, por lo que lo utilizan
> muy poco.
>

What is required for teachers to install Sugar on their laptops?

Lo sentimos, no sé español. Traductor Google es mi amigo.

Cheers
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Re: [IAEP] use of XOs

[Dave Crossland]

Hi

On 25 April 2016 at 11:20, Sebastian Silva 
wrote:

> El 25/04/16 a las 08:55, Dave Crossland escribió:
>
>
> On 25 April 2016 at 08:12, Sebastian Silva 
> wrote:
>
>> Laura an I are using 'intervention' as we think Sugar users are not
>> common IT and *deployment* does sound like an impositive, top down
>> approach.
>>
>
> Sounds like psychiatry ;)
>
>
> Although I code since childhood, my academic deformation is in Psychology
> :-)
>
> Generally in social sciences intervention refers to taking action with the
> intention to change something in a person or group. It implies an expected
> outcome and responsibility beyond, in this case, merely providing access to
> technology.
>
> The big difference I guess is that a proper intervention's results are
> measured and evaluated.
>

However, for me, it also sound like an impositive, top down approach.

I like "lab" because the essential idea of a laboratory is that it runs its
own (somewhat scientific) experiments and judges its own results; no
top-down impositions.

But having a set of reference experiments to self-assess is wise.

What are your expected results? :)

-- 
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Re: [IAEP] use of XOs

[Sebastian Silva]

El 25/04/16 a las 08:55, Dave Crossland escribió:
>
> On 25 April 2016 at 08:12, Sebastian Silva  > wrote:
>
> Laura an I are using 'intervention' as we think Sugar users are
> not common IT and /deployment/ does sound like an impositive, top
> down approach.
>
>
> Sounds like psychiatry ;) 

Although I code since childhood, my academic deformation is in
Psychology :-)

Generally in social sciences intervention refers to taking action with
the intention to change something in a person or group. It implies an
expected outcome and responsibility beyond, in this case, merely
providing access to technology.

The big difference I guess is that a proper intervention's results are
measured and evaluated.
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Re: [IAEP] use of XOs

[Dave Crossland]

On 25 April 2016 at 08:12, Sebastian Silva 
wrote:

> Laura an I are using 'intervention' as we think Sugar users are not common
> IT and *deployment* does sound like an impositive, top down approach.
>

Sounds like psychiatry ;)
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Re: [IAEP] use of XOs

[Dave Crossland]

On 25 April 2016 at 07:11, Sean DALY  wrote:

>
> On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 4:02 AM, Dave Crossland  wrote:
>
>> the same thing that OLPC called a "deployment" (which I think is a poor
>> marketing term, since it has US-imperial/military overtones.)
>
>
>
> Deployment is the common IT term for rolling out a solution, with
> everything connected to it (logistics, support).
>

I know :)
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Re: [IAEP] use of XOs

[Sebastian Silva]

El 25/04/16 a las 06:11, Sean DALY escribió:
>
> the same thing that OLPC called a "deployment" (which I think is a
> poor marketing term, since it has US-imperial/military overtones.)
>
>
>
> Deployment is the common IT term for rolling out a solution, with
> everything connected to it (logistics, support).
Laura an I are using 'intervention' as we think Sugar users are not
common IT and /deployment/ does sound like an impositive, top down approach.
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Re: [IAEP] IAEP Digest, Vol 97, Issue 75

[Laura Vargas]

As Sugar is the libre software we are building/supporting for children of
all continents to learn with, it's vision should include the promotion of a
lot of exchange of cutural, cientific and functional best
practices/cases/projects among all children.

Hopefully this vision can continue progressing as you get the list moving
forward.

Please note that is not the same to talk about a Sugar Labs Local Lab than
a Sugar+XO Deployment. Historically, the braves who started a Lab did it as
a result of a Sugar+XO Intervention.

Usually, the deployments/interventions have "managers" (private or public)
that manage the day to day operations. That is different from the Local Lab
volunteers/professionals who are/could be offering
support/research/development/localization/etc.

Just to give you an idea, the table list to Rafael Ortiz en Colombia as a
reference for contact, but he was not involved with any intervention
directly. He was one of the group that gather to create the Colombian Local
Lab (Fundación Sugar Labs).

Latter on, when I joined ~2011, I asked Sandra Barragán (OLPC sales manager
at that point) for Colombian deployments information and she provided the
following link that list +20 different deployments/interventions:

https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/1/viewer?hl=es=UTF8=2=0=UTF8=308a=1=zvPH5wm70EJU.kvdZHcipBm3E

Most likely Claudia Urrea, SLOB and former Director of Learning at OLPC
Association [1], already has a table with all the "managers and educators"
contacts from the deployments/interventions that can be shared at this
point with the community.

Best regards and blessing,
Laura V

[1] http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Claudia_Urrea




2016-04-24 12:53 GMT+08:00 Tony Anderson :

> Hi, Dave
>
> Everything possible.
>
> For a simple example. If Uruguay is allowing learners to take laptops
> home; how is charging handled? In Rwanda, we discovered that
> few homes had electricity. This would mean laptops taken home would be
> returned with empty batteries. The school is set up to charge the
> laptops in charging racks. Charging them in class time would mean running
> power strips all over the floor of the classroom potentially endangering
> students and the laptops (dragged to the floor). In Nepal, wear and tear on
> the XOs proved too expensive so laptops now stay in the school. After
> school opportunities are a good alternative, except in many schools
> students walk several miles to and from school. This means they can not
> stay back for after school activities. In schools with two shifts there
> would lots of time for 'before' or 'after' school activities. However, the
> schools do not have classroom space beyond for the active classes.
>
> Every deployment I have encountered is different, information about them
> would be invaluable and would give us an opportunity to provide more
> effective support. I think the first priority is to find the deployments
> and identify a contact who could provide us with good current information.
>
> Tony
>
>
> On 04/24/2016 12:21 PM, Dave Crossland wrote:
>
>
> On 23 April 2016 at 23:45, Tony Anderson  wrote:
>
>> I really wish we had more information on where and how XOs are used in
>> the field
>
>
> What information do you think we should find out?
>
>
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Re: [IAEP] use of XOs

[Sean DALY]

On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 4:02 AM, Dave Crossland  wrote:

> the same thing that OLPC called a "deployment" (which I think is a poor
> marketing term, since it has US-imperial/military overtones.)



Deployment is the common IT term for rolling out a solution, with
everything connected to it (logistics, support).
Sean
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[IAEP] Lion Activity

[Tony Anderson]

The Lion activity (https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Lion_Activity) has been 
added to ASLO (activities.sugarlabs.org).


It is suitable for testing by localizers. The current version allows a 
user to select a language (from those on the XO) and
an activity (from those installed on the XO with po directories). The 
user then sees each string in sequence. Once the user
is satisfied with the localized string, a click on 'accept' moves to the 
next one. When finished, the screen shows 'done'.


The activity writes a xx.po file to the selected activity for the 
selected language xx. It also saves the original as xx.po.orig for

checking.

To be useful, the po file must be compiled into an mo file - not yet 
implemented.


Tony
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