Re: [IAEP] Sugar Labs - Goals for 2018 and beyond
Alex, Can you post it here? https://goo.gl/forms/PV3SV8opzBnb1eqw2 Sameer On Jan 24, 2018 12:37 PM, "Sameer Verma" wrote: On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 8:28 AM, Alex Perez wrote: > Sameer, > > Apologies for top-posting. > > For 2018, I would really like to see Sugar Labs get behind and commit to > getting the core of Sugar working fully with Python 3. I personally believe > this is critical to its long(er) term success, as Python 2 continues be > deprecated. Python 2 will not be supported at all past 2020 (see > https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0373/) > > I asked Walter about the feasibility of this, to which he reiplied "we had a > GSoC intern do a pretty thorough investigation a few years ago. Doesn't look > like a lot of work for Sugar itself (or the toolkit). But updating all of > the activities will be a chore." > > Personally I would propose that this be done under contract to someone with > a very complete understanding of the differences and best coding practices > between Python 2 and 3 (eg, a "professional"), due to the importance of > getting this right the first time. Will that cost some money? Absolutely, > but I suspect that it would be money well spent. > > I would appreciate your thoughts on this. Hi Alex, Thanks for the reply. I was waiting to hear from someone on this. Instead of replying to your question (for good reasons), I'll comment on some meta stuff. 1) We want your thoughts, but hold off for a bit. I've got the form set up for most part. School is back in session this week, so I'm a bit busy. We'd like your thoughts via that form. In fact, we'd like your thoughts there, and prevent discussions about it for a bit until we are ready. 2) The proposal is for Sugarlabs, the organization and not Sugar, the software project. FOSS projects have their own mechanisms of managing growth, directions etc. but my current proposal isn't about Sugar the software project. It is about Sugarlabs, the organization (Note that SFC is the umbrella under which we operate and utilize SFC for legal and fiscal affairs, but SFC isn't the org. I know that we use conflicting terms, but for the purpose of this exercise, I'm going to ask people to focus on Sugarlabs as the unit of analysis). This is an important distinction. That said, I'm sure we'll get several suggestions about Sugar as opposed to Sugarlabs, but we'll take it and separate out the best we can. Give me a few days to get things operationalized. thanks, Sameer -- Sameer Verma, Ph.D. Professor, Information Systems San Francisco State University http://verma.sfsu.edu/ > >> Greetings! >> >> Here is a proposal to solicit various goals towards mission of >> Sugarlabs. I am sending this out as per my comments on the recent >> #sugar-meeting on IRC. >> >> In the past, I have noticed that whenever we propose to discuss >> various goals that this community may pursue, we tend to fail quite >> rapidly at not arriving at a consensus. It is not that we have >> incorrect ideas about how we think the project should proceed. We tend >> to disagree prematurely. To remedy the situation, I am proposing that >> we gather opinions from the community about goals and do so in a >> manner where it remains temporarily shielded from public view. Then, >> at a given time (say two weeks) we make all of these items public. >> This may reveal if we have convergent ideas or if we are still very >> divergent. Either is okay. >> >> Next, we would try to merge similar items into tangible goals with a >> specific time frame. Depending on who the champions are for a specific >> goal and its objectives, these people may then band together into an >> ad-hoc group and pursue said goals. >> >> The time line for this project is relatively short. I propose that we >> collect ideas for two weeks. At the end of two weeks, we would then >> make the items public, and solicit more ideas for a third week. At the >> end of the third week, we would then try to collate similar responses >> into clusters of tangible goals. From there on, each set of goals may >> be pursued independently, depending on its sponsors, champions, >> supporters and participants. >> >> If this sounds like something that will help us move forward, I am >> ready to set this in motion. I have already discussed this with >> Hillary Naylor, who is an active participant in our OLPC-SF group. >> When it's time to collate responses, I may solicit some more help from >> some of you. >> >> cheers, >> Sameer >> -- >> Sameer Verma, Ph.D. >> Professor, Information Systems >> San Francisco State University >> http://verma.sfsu.edu/ ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Sugar Labs 2018 Goals idea
If you haven't already, can you also post it here? https://goo.gl/forms/PV3SV8opzBnb1eqw2 Sameer On Feb 3, 2018 7:23 AM, "Jaskirat Singh" wrote: > Hello , > > I am Jaskirat Singh, SL community member. > Seeking towards Sugar labs Goals 2018 Well, it will be good to have a > program like showcase Schools , that means we could make an event or > program named as SHOWCASE SUGAR LABS SCHOOLS in which our marketing team > should get involved and target schools , and other educational centers , > conducting seminars and guiding teachers, getting introduced about the > Sugar labs and how it can be beneficial to them . We could have some type > of achievements in that so that if a particular school satisfy that > criteria will be given a title of SL authorized labs . > Moreover for this we can conduct online competitions . Because as far i > have observed is that schools involve only when they are benefitted in some > way . So it is also necessary to conduct some programs competitions > then only we will be able to promote and spread SL across the globe > ...! > So for this The schools which will become SL showcase schools ,will have > those seminars and also later we can make STUDENT EXPERTS in those > particular schools so that those students after going through all the > things in SL will conduct seminars and all other events and teach others > about the things like activities ( music blocks ,turtle, etc) and when they > will tell about this to others then they will seek more users. > But as far i know that this could only be possible if we develop some > program and allow more school comp department teachers to compete in those > ( by documentation work that they have to pick an activity or something > related to sugar, use sugar things ,and develop something with help of > those resources and then send to us ...so will go through it and select the > work according to it we can select schools for showcase and also these type > of schools can be given some type of rewards ) i think it will be good to > outreach ...! And yes will be interested too also for this we can go for > special website named as education center for it where users can have > different courses for it and go through it. Even i have started to get SL > introduced in nearby schools. > I hope this idea would work and please feel free to talk about these for > suggestions as well as opinions > > Thanks > > JASKIRAT SINGH > > ___ > IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) > IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep > ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] Sugar Labs 2018 Goals idea
Hello , I am Jaskirat Singh, SL community member. Seeking towards Sugar labs Goals 2018 Well, it will be good to have a program like showcase Schools , that means we could make an event or program named as SHOWCASE SUGAR LABS SCHOOLS in which our marketing team should get involved and target schools , and other educational centers , conducting seminars and guiding teachers, getting introduced about the Sugar labs and how it can be beneficial to them . We could have some type of achievements in that so that if a particular school satisfy that criteria will be given a title of SL authorized labs . Moreover for this we can conduct online competitions . Because as far i have observed is that schools involve only when they are benefitted in some way . So it is also necessary to conduct some programs competitions then only we will be able to promote and spread SL across the globe ...! So for this The schools which will become SL showcase schools ,will have those seminars and also later we can make STUDENT EXPERTS in those particular schools so that those students after going through all the things in SL will conduct seminars and all other events and teach others about the things like activities ( music blocks ,turtle, etc) and when they will tell about this to others then they will seek more users. But as far i know that this could only be possible if we develop some program and allow more school comp department teachers to compete in those ( by documentation work that they have to pick an activity or something related to sugar, use sugar things ,and develop something with help of those resources and then send to us ...so will go through it and select the work according to it we can select schools for showcase and also these type of schools can be given some type of rewards ) i think it will be good to outreach ...! And yes will be interested too also for this we can go for special website named as education center for it where users can have different courses for it and go through it. Even i have started to get SL introduced in nearby schools. I hope this idea would work and please feel free to talk about these for suggestions as well as opinions Thanks JASKIRAT SINGH ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
