Re: [IAEP] [Olpc-uruguay] [Sur] Edujam 2012 sera mejor que Edujam 2011
2012/2/10 Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.com On Feb 9, 2012 8:40 AM, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com wrote: As to your various questions regarding programming, the answer is, it depends. Creo que Walter aqui esta reaccionando a intentos excesivos de definir programar y escribir codigo. Visto de afuera, esto de programar es misterioso. Es como la disciplina de escribir. Para quien no puede leer y escribir facilmente, es dificil de imaginar que escribir no es un comportamiento unificado. Nacemos en un mundo rodeados de letras y sonidos. Hablar en un idioma se nos hace natural, como de fabrica, casi que es parte de algún gen evolucionado en millones de millones de años luz. Se supone, que el próximo paso al habla sera la escritura, super_archi_hiper estimulada. Hablar/escribir son dos saberes muy bien amasados o forzados desde los primeros minutos de vida. Sospecho que los niños, en gran parte, inician la escuela con una dosis (muy alta o muy baja, pero dosis al fin) de horas en jugar amasando la plastilina del hablar/dibujar/escribir. Un niño no escolar, puede dibujar la palabra mafalda o ben 10 sin saber escribir (codificar). Con la programación, vivimos (y sufrimos/pensamos) experiencias cotidianas. Por ejemplo: subir/bajar una escalera debemos calcular aplicar lógica sobre los pasos a dar en relación al equilibro con el resto del cuerpo. Cambiar un pañal. Un bb para para comer debe llorar(programación animal :) ). Pasos para abrir una puerta. Pasos para la germinación del porotoy así! De movida, relacionamos la palabra programar con un rincón de la informática(mateticas/lógica). Entonces asumimos, que para programar debemos escribir código (el misterio) informático. Nos olvidamos que podemos codificar pasos con el abecedario, o con Morph(etoys) o con Bloques(tottugar) o dibujando sobre la tierra con solo una rama. Quizás, sin darnos cuenta, programamos sin saber a ciencias ciertas que estamos calculando o aplicando lógica. En un ámbito educativo, o no, eso de enseñar sin enseñar y sin codificar debe ser complejo. ¿Por que sera que Actividades como logo, tortuart, etoys casi no son usadas/ resistidas? ¿Por que la programación es misteriosa ?. ¡No lo se! :-) un abrazo, m ___ Olpc-uruguay mailing list olpc-urug...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/olpc-uruguay -- Saludos, Gustavo.- ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Promoting Pablo Flores to CEO of Activity Central
Come on (Arriba!; a lo Uruguayo ) and... keep walking :-) On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 2:19 PM, David Farning dfarn...@activitycentral.com wrote: I am proud to announce that we are promoting Pablo Flores as the new CEO of Activity Central. Pablo has a strong background in all things OLPC and Sugar from his time at Plan Ceibal, leadership in Ceibal Jam, and most recently as community architect for Activity Central. Pablo and the rest of the Activity Central team will continue the core AC mission of providing service and support for deployments. I will continue my work in the Sugar/OLPC ecosystem by focusing on the junction point between deployment technical teams and education teams. My research so far has lead me to the notion of learning objects. While poorly defined in the education literature, the vocabulary around learning objects seems to lends itself to the intersection of technical personal and education personal in early childhood education. david ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- Saludos, Gustavo.- ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [Sur] [Local Labs] Propuesta Consejo de Coordinadores Era: Delegado de cada grupo requerido y propuesta
2011/6/3 Martin Abente martin.abente.lah...@gmail.com: 2011/6/3 Sebastian Silva sebast...@somosazucar.org: Hola Gustavo, En buena hora que preguntas. El estatus que manejamos es: * Perú: Kiko Mayorga se ofreció y ha sido informalmente confirmado por el grupo. Copio a to...@somosazucar.org * Colombia: Se ha ofrecido Laura Vargas. Esperamos aún confirmación del grupo. Copio a sugarlabsc...@co.sugarlabs.org * Argentina: Pude ver el proceso en la lista sugar-ar. Gustavo Ibarra propuesto y confirmado. * Uruguay: No hemos tenido noticias pero supimos que tuvieron una asamblea y preparan elecciones de directiva. Copio a olpc-uruguay. * Chile: Copio a Werner y Patricio para saber si lo han conversado. * Paraguay: No he tenido noticias. Habría que intentar contactarlos directamente. Necesariamente el representante tiene que pertenecer a alguna organizacion local? En Paraguay, tenemos a Paraguay Educa en ese caso. Hola Martin! Bienvenido Paraguay Educa y toda su gente encabezada por http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/User:Pacita Si no, bienvenido un nuevo local labs Paraguayo! -- Saludos, Gustavo.- Sugarlabs Argentina!.- ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] TurtleArt (Sugar) + Icaro = Tortucaro - por/by Valentin Basel
Para mas información leer en/ To learn more about it http://proyectofedora.org/argentina/?p=320 ¡Excelente Valetin! Abrazos! Gustavo.- ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Any olpc/Sugar/ICT4E people in Spain?
On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 4:13 PM, Edward Cherlin echer...@gmail.com wrote: Not an OLPC project, but there is a lot of Linux in the schools in Extremadura. You could talk to the local government about using Sugar on their laptops. http://news.squeak.org/2006/11/17/squeak-in-extremadura/ more related links: http://tinyurl.com/5w7ocee http://squeak.educarex.es/Squeakpolis squeakpo...@juntaextremadura.net Diego an José L worked in the squeak inextremadura project and as far as iknow they live in spain Diego Gomez Deckdiegogomezd...@consultar.com José L. Redrejo Rodríguez jredr...@edu.juntaextremadura.net Have you asked on the OLPC-SUR list? There seems to have been a very modest OLPC España effort, but its Wiki page has vanished away. Perhaps you can help restart it. On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 05:56, Christoph Derndorfer e0425...@student.tuwien.ac.at wrote: Hi all, as some of you might know I moved to Madrid about a month ago How's your Spanish? and will be here at least until the end of May but possibly also until late summer. Now I was wondering whether anyone here knows people working on olpc/Sugar/ICT4E who are based here in Madrid or elsewhere in Spain? I've looked around quite a bit but unfortunately didn't find anything related to olpc/Sugar/ICT4E so far, plus similarly minded communities (e.g. LUGs, hacker spaces, etc.) also seem to be quite rare around here. Anyway, I'd appreciate any pointers, suggestions or contacts in this area. Thanks, Christoph -- Christoph Derndorfer co-editor, www.olpcnews.com e-mail: christ...@olpcnews.com ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- Edward Mokurai (默雷/धर्ममेघशब्दगर्ज/دھرممیگھشبدگر ج) Cherlin Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination. http://www.earthtreasury.org/ ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- Saludos, Gustavo.- ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Any olpc/Sugar/ICT4E people in Spain?
you might want to write to Diego Gomez Deck http://diegogomezdeck.blogspot.com/ On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 6:56 AM, Christoph Derndorfer e0425...@student.tuwien.ac.at wrote: Hi all, as some of you might know I moved to Madrid about a month ago and will be here at least until the end of May but possibly also until late summer. Now I was wondering whether anyone here knows people working on olpc/Sugar/ICT4E who are based here in Madrid or elsewhere in Spain? I've looked around quite a bit but unfortunately didn't find anything related to olpc/Sugar/ICT4E so far, plus similarly minded communities (e.g. LUGs, hacker spaces, etc.) also seem to be quite rare around here. Anyway, I'd appreciate any pointers, suggestions or contacts in this area. Thanks, Christoph -- Christoph Derndorfer co-editor, www.olpcnews.com e-mail: christ...@olpcnews.com ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- Saludos, Gustavo.- ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [Sur] [Local Labs] Junta aprueba programa de certificaciones
Es verdad, esta moción aprobada por el comite, es un paso adelante para la comunidad. Felicitaciones para todos. Mensaje original Asunto: [Local Labs] Junta aprueba programa de certificaciones Fecha: Tue, 01 Mar 2011 01:24:50 -0500 De: Sebastian Silva sebast...@somosazucar.org A: iaep iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org Estimados colegas miembros de Local Labs. Propongo que empecemos por definir en conjunto el primer nivel de certificación (referente a la introducción al entorno Sugar). +1 ¿Quienes de Uds. estarían interesados en trabajar en este tema? Aquí un gaucho argentino se suma a la iniciativa. -- Saludos, Gustavo.- nota de color: cada vez resulta menos llamativo leer en la lista de IAEP correos escrito en castellano :) . Interesante. ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [Sur] [Local Labs] Junta aprueba programa de certificaciones
2011/3/2 Sebastian Silva sebast...@somosazucar.org Para ello se ha planteado un proceso de certificación por niveles http://openetherpad.org/ep/pad/view/certificacion-sugarlabs/eEILr2wWc4 Propongo que empecemos por definir en conjunto el primer nivel de certificación (referente a la introducción al entorno Sugar). Nivel 1-Actividades Basicas Propongo: Para definir que cuales son las Actividades básicas deberíamos tomar aquellas instaladas por defecto en las imagenes y habilitadas en el anillo de la vista principal de los respectivos deployments(Uy,Pe,Ar,Py...etc). Nivel 1-Aprender a investigar usando actividades ¿Que se busca con en este item? La idea consistiría en que todo capacitado prepare/sugiera/arme un prototipo para contenido curricular(aula) con todo el universo de actividades instalas en la imagen (estén o no activa en la vista principal). ¿Es esta la idea? (ME PARECE QUE DEBE DE HABER UN NIVEL SOLO DE PROGRAMACION... y tal vez como reportar bugs, modificar una actividad, etc) +1 a la idea de reportar bugs. Siempre y cuando se acote el concepto de reportar. Podemos generar incertidumbre en los maestros si buscamos que entren a http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ y generen un ticket. ¿No? Propongo: Definir una lista genérica (¿OLPC-SUR?) y un estándar o norma para presentar un correo con posible bug. ¿A que se refieren con Nivel de programación Etoys, Scratch, TortugArte, etc o programar sobre un lenguaje informático(Python, shellscript, smalltalk)?...sospecho que son las primeras actividades nombradas. -- Saludos, Gustavo.- ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [Sur] [Local Labs] Junta aprueba programa de certificaciones
Los niveles 2,3 y 4 los transformaria en un trabajo de campo o final con el fín de acceder a la certificacion. Asi como estan presentados no los veo como niveles de aprendizaje. Sumo un Nivel General o miscelaneas: -- Propongo que el programa de certificación recomiende una oferta de titulos a leer ( libros/pappers/presentaciones) obligatorio que todo aquel interesado en proyectos pedagogicos 1a1 debería no dejar de leer. Respondo por las listas estas ideas, pero de todas maneras las estoy escribiendo en http://openetherpad.org/certificacion-sugarlabs 2011/3/2 Rafael Ortiz raf...@activitycentral.com: Saludo Cordial Se pude tomar como referencia algo de este material http://co.sugarlabs.org/go/Pedagogia/Talleres Creo que habia mas material en Chile ? -- Saludos, Gustavo.- ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [Local Labs] Certificaciones en Sugar
Saludos para todos, recién hoy leo este correo -vengo atrasado-, ¿avanzaron con este tema de las certificaciones?. Pregunto por si aun tengo un par de correo por leer. +1. Me parece interesante (y un poco compleja) pensar en una certificación. 2011/2/9 Sebastian Silva sebast...@somosazucar.org: Estimados miembros de la comunidad Sugar: Ha surgido recientemente en la lista Sur, y también en la junta de Sugar Labs, la inquietud respecto de «Certificaciones Sugar» las cuales podrían estar ofreciendo diferentes entidades en distintos países, pero que no son oficialmente respaldadas por Sugar Labs. Walter me pidió en la última reunión de la junta que me hiciera cargo (junto a Claudia Urrea de OLPC) de definir un proceso de Certificación que estuviera bajo el control de los laboratorios locales y que fuera acorde con los principios pedagógicos de Sugar. El argumento es que por una parte, un certificado ayuda a los docentes a avanzar profesionalmente, y un programa inteligente de certificaciones podría difundir Sugar y sus principios incorporando a los participantes en la comunidad. Sin embargo he encontrado la tarea tremendamente compleja sobretodo porque desconozco las coyunturas locales en las cuales esta certificación se aplicaría y en general me parece que el modelo tradicional de certificaciones choca con mis propios principios como autodidacta. Inquietudes similares me mostraron miembros de Sugar Labs Colombia en la última reunión que tuvimos. En todo caso, Claudia y yo trabajamos en el siguiente documento compartido: http://openetherpad.org/certificacion-sugarlabs Hay reuniones de la junta casi todos los jueves a las 3PM EST, en el canal #sugar-meeting (http://chat.sugarlabs.org/). Me gustaría tener sus impresiones sobre cómo debería ser un programa de certificaciones digno de Sugar Labs. Para ello pueden contestar por aquí, o directamente participar de la próxima reunión, que es mañana. Agradecido por su participación, Sebastian Silva ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- Saludos, Gustavo.- ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] TED - Alan Kay - Example(8:44)
Hello everybody, I am trying to simulate the example Or This A2+b2=c2 used by AK en the TED conference (8:44) but unfortunelly I am not arriving to the expected results. Does anybody know if the etoy project (I just need the example: A2 +b2=c2, not the complete presentation) is available in the web? Link TED - A powerful idea about ideas: http://www.ted.com/talks/alan_kay_shares_a_powerful_idea_about_ideas.html -- Saludos, Gustavo.- ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [etoys-dev] TED - Alan Kay - Example(8:44)
Sth to clariry my question: In the video that TED reproduces, during Pithagoras Theorem Alan stands out of focus, you can see the presentation in the screem only.So I don´t know if fugures are moved by a simulation (script) or byAlan Kay itselfThank GRACIAS Pato Acevedo!!! -- Forwarded message -- From: Patricio Acevedo patitoacev...@gmail.com Date: 2010/2/19 Subject: Pitagoras To: ibarr...@gmail.com http://patricioacevedo.blogspot.com/2008/09/teorema-de-pitagoras-con-dr-geoii.html Aunque creo lo que buscas está totalmente cubierto en este artículo de la revista linux magazine http://www.linux-magazine.es/issue/38/079-082_EducacionLM38.pdf On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 10:15 PM, Gustavo Ibarra ibarr...@gmail.com wrote: AlanThank you for your answer! I understand the presentation was created with the etoy itself( super powerpoint, with a morph ThreadNavigator) I wanted to know if the example pythagorean Theorem is an animation (a script that moves elements) done with etoy inside super powerpoint I will folow Yoshiki advises. Tank's Yoshiki On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 9:53 PM, Yoshiki Ohshima yosh...@vpri.org wrote: Gustavo, At Fri, 19 Feb 2010 21:35:53 -0300, Gustavo Ibarra wrote: Hello everybody, I am trying to simulate the example Or This A^2+b^2=c^2 used by AK en the TED conference (8:44) but unfortunelly I am not arriving to the expected results. Does anybody know if the etoy project (I just need the example: A^2+b^2=c^2, not the complete presentation) is available in the web? Link TED - A powerful idea about ideas: http://www.ted.com/talks/alan_kay_shares_a_powerful_idea_about_ideas.html As Alan wrote, his version is just moving pieces around. You could create three squares in proper sizes, and four right triangles in the right size and try move them around. For some specific animating effect you would like to get... if you don't mind, perhaps you can upload your version somewhere so that we can take a look at it? -- Yoshiki -- Saludos, Gustavo.- -- Saludos, Gustavo.- ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Need Live CD to take to Argentina
Hello, sorry I am answering so late Cary, I live in Junin, a city 260 km far from Buenos Aires.January is quite complecated for me, at work first and because of my holidays as well, so I am afraid I will not be able to travel to Buenos Aires With the group we have not arranged any meeting during January So if you think it is ok, we would contact persons at the school where they are planning to use Soa/Sugar to continue orking along the 2010 Gabriel Tupac Condori sayay_tu...@yahoo.com.a is the responsable in tecnical support at the school On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 6:32 AM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote: On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 00:47, Caryl Bigenho cbige...@hotmail.com wrote: H All i... Did this ever get implemented? If so where do I find it? Are there any special instructions I need to make and use the live CD? Can a usb stick be used for file storage? http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/0.84/Sugar_LiveCD I would like to be able to take several copies with me to give to a tech person at an elementary school in Buenos Aires when I go there in mid-January. You got some good replies already, but you may want to consider contacting Gustavo Ibarra or Gonzalo Odiard (cc'ed) who are pushing Sugar in Argentina. Regards, Tomeu Thanks, Caryl ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- «Sugar Labs is anyone who participates in improving and using Sugar. What Sugar Labs does is determined by the participants.» - David Farning -- Saludos, Gustavo.- ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] We want to create our local Sugar Labs Argentina.-
On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 2:50 PM, Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero dir...@gmail.com wrote: Having for granted that you have already a strong group of individuals or ''core'' that are willing to take the lead on all the tasks related to a local lab, we can begin to work with the infrastructure team to set you up a wiki, maillist and @ar.sugarlabs.org mails. This are good news for us and will be able to contribute to the comunity SL/OLPC from SLA. Rafael, Let's keep in touch for set up topics through the mail list argent...@laptop About communication with other local labs Chile and Colombia have their own wikis and mailists we can begin also to work on -sur (as always ;)) yes, off course. cheers, gustavo.- ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] We want to create our local Sugar Labs Argentina.-
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 2:18 AM, Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero dir...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Gustavo. Glad to have you here. On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 11:57 PM, Edward Cherlin echer...@gmail.com wrote: Please copy to argent...@lists.laptop.org. I am not subscribed to it because, unfortunately, I do not speak or write Spanish. Welcome/Bienvenido. Hola amigos! First of all, thank you for the welcome. Edward Cherlin echer...@gmail.com wrote: I have just started organizing online meetings on the collaboration features of Sugar and the XO. Any interested teachers are welcome to join us for testing and tutorial sessions. We also need questions from teachers and students on anything that has puzzled them, and volunteers to translate the materials we create to Spanish and other languages. Our joint sessions will use Sugar on a Stick, which is set up to use a particular Jabber server. At some point we will provide instructions for connecting to that server from other forms of Sugar. They may very well be in the Wiki, but I haven't looked. Edward, i am sending this email with copy to argent...@lists.laptop.org Gustavo Ibarra ibarr...@gmail.com wrote: We ask permission to create our local Sugar Lab for Argentina, as members of the Sugar Labs community, accepting and respecting MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Deployment_Team/Local_Lab_MOU and the appropiate use of the LOGO http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Marketing_Team/Logo#Logo_usage Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero dir...@gmail.com wrote: Local labs efforts must ask permission primary form it's own local communities, for the overall community we ask to follow the rules of distribution and participation already concerted with the overall community, like the MOU f.e... i also recommend you to see SL governance and SL .co governance to have ideas about to organize participation. I'd like to make one clarification We are thinking to start with SLA in an informal way. We believe it is not necessary to be formal in order to the kind of work we are doing. And we would create a non profit foundation when it be necessary. -- Saludos, Gustavo.- ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] We want to create our local Sugar Labs Argentina.-
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 4:45 PM, David Farning dfarn...@sugarlabs.orgwrote: Hey Gustavo, Hello David and Rafael A Local Lab in Argentina is great! We have found that Local Labs are incredibly helpful to the community at large. Usually, I try to help labs get set up. But now, I would like to stay out of the picture. There are some really great Local Labs that are doing amazing this. We hope everything will be ok. We want to do interesting things in argentina..!! The true value of a Local Lab is building on top of Sugar to solve your _local_ needs. So, would you mind working with Rafael and other existing local labs to set up SLA. The big thing is that you do what is best for Argentina. I will work with rafael in things related to the set up of the SLA and be in touch with other regional labs Rafael, how do you suggest to continue?.. david -- Saludos, Gustavo.- ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] We want to create our local Sugar Labs Argentina.-
Hello everybody. I´m writting in the name of argentinian people who have periodic meetings, which we call Sugar Days Argentina http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/SugarDaysArgentina We are forming a community of software developers and teachers of the area who are interested in exchanging experiences and learn about XO computers and tne platform. We are focusing in the following objectives: * To do periodic meetings with real objectives and activities. * To invite people who want to work. * To work in the use of computers specially in models destinated to education projects called 1:1. * To share work with other developers, specially with teachers who use this programs and can tell us their educational vision. * To look for the best way to colaborate on line with other current projects (of laboratories or research university group or independent entrepeneur). * To generate different working groups with the same aims but with different specific areas of applicattions:Python, Etoys, Fedora/SUGAR/SoaS. We would like to reach in the short and intermediate time the following: * To keep active in argentina the spirit of working in: OLPC and SUGAR LAB * To interact with pre existant experiences such as : Sugars Lab's, PERU EDUCA, CEIBAL, RUP JAM, PARAGUAY EDUCA * To help to have more XO's in classrooms in Argentina and to create SUGAR LABS in Argentina. *We ask permission to create our local Sugar Lab for Argentina, as members of the Sugar Labs comunity, accepting and respecting MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Deployment_Team/Local_Lab_MOU and the appropiate use of the LOGO http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Marketing_Team/Logo#Logo_usage * If you need more information, please write to the list argent...@lists.laptop.org or to my personal email, Greetings...!!! Gustavo.- ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep