Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Sugar Labs in GSoC 2013
Hi Sean, do you mean something like, Sugar Labs Seeks Students For Google Summer of Code Program ? Yes I was thinking something along those lines. I don't see why not, but we need to hear from mentors - i understand there can be a steep learning curve for students new to Sugar. Sean. I see what your saying after I posted I read Bastien's post that raised this concern. Will wait to see what mentors and others say about recruiting for GSOC and if it is wise to try to send out PR for purpose. Best! John Tierney On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 12:33 AM, John Tierney jtis4...@hotmail.com wrote: This is great news and an opportunity to grow the community. Should we take the opportunity to do PR to recruit students? Sean Daly what are your thoughts? Others? Would need to act quickly if this is a desired path to follow. Timeline is: April 9 - 21 Would-be student participants discuss application ideas with mentoring organizations. April 22 Student application period opens. May 3 Student application deadline. Best! John Tierney From: walter.ben...@gmail.com To: ma...@laptop.org; iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org CC: sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org; callka...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Sugar Labs in GSoC 2013 Sugar Labs has been accepted in Google Summer of Code 2013. Thanks to everyone in the community who contributed to our application. Now it is time to recruit students. More details coming your way soon. regards. -walter On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 2:12 PM, Manuel Quiñones ma...@laptop.org wrote: 2013/4/9 Kalpa Welivitigoda callka...@gmail.com: Hi all, I am really happy and impressed to see Sugar Labs listed in accepted organizations for Google Code of Summer 2013. Great news! This comunity is giving a boost :) -- .. manuq .. ___ Sugar-devel mailing list sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Sugar Labs in GSoC 2013
This is great news and an opportunity to grow the community. Should we take the opportunity to do PR to recruit students? Sean Daly what are your thoughts? Others? Would need to act quickly if this is a desired path to follow. Timeline is: April 9 - 21 Would-be student participants discuss application ideas with mentoring organizations. April 22 Student application period opens. May 3 Student application deadline. Best! John Tierney From: walter.ben...@gmail.com To: ma...@laptop.org; iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org CC: sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org; callka...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Sugar Labs in GSoC 2013 Sugar Labs has been accepted in Google Summer of Code 2013. Thanks to everyone in the community who contributed to our application. Now it is time to recruit students. More details coming your way soon. regards. -walter On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 2:12 PM, Manuel Quiñones ma...@laptop.org wrote: 2013/4/9 Kalpa Welivitigoda callka...@gmail.com: Hi all, I am really happy and impressed to see Sugar Labs listed in accepted organizations for Google Code of Summer 2013. Great news! This comunity is giving a boost :) -- .. manuq .. ___ Sugar-devel mailing list sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] GCI Mentor?
Hello All, I am looking sign up as mentor for GCI. On Register as a Mentor profile page what is being put in for: URL ID* Im network Home page url Thanks! John Tierney ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Introduction: teacher interested in SOAS
Hi John, I would say your summary is pretty well on target taking into account Peter's comments and the continued improvements he has been making with each SoaS release. I would be happy to have a conversation with you on Skype or phone and give you some ideas on how you might want to approach the local Universities to establish relationships in Computer Science and Education schools to build up a support system. I think you mentioned your in Philadelphia so Temple and Drexel would be great options as well as the other smaller schools. I have been collaborating with Dr. Kevin Brooks and his Great Fargo project since its inception. I met Kevin at the Computers and Writing Conference at Purdue in 2010, where I helped put on a Sugar Workshop with Dr. Gerald Ardito, and Walter Bender who joined via Skype. In turn I joined Kevin and his graduate student Chris Lindgren at the University of Michigan at ComputersWriting 2011 for another Sugar Workshop. I think this would be a great place for you to talk about the education portions of the project,for the technical questions/issues and updates on that front the Soas list would be best. It's Great to see you trying to help out your learners in this manner. Let me know if I can be of assistance. Best! John Tierney Skype: jt4sugar #248-613-7392 From: j...@johnlandis.net Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 13:10:41 -0500 To: iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org Subject: Re: [IAEP] Introduction: teacher interested in SOAS Thanks so much for the warm welcome. Particularly to Patricio, Harriet, and Kevin for sharing such fascinating links. If it's okay, I'm going to use this list as a sounding board for my thoughts as I explore Sugar. Again, if there's a better place for this type of thing, please let me know! So far, I'm getting the impression that Sugar on A Stick is more or less limited to experimental university-school partnerships, and hasn't yet reached a phase of wide deployment in the hands of schools. Is this an accurate assessment? The reason I'm interested in SOAS is that I work in the traditional computer lab setting that is so familiar in K12 schools in the US. This setting has a lot of restrictions and drawbacks. A big one is that, even though the students are surrounded by computers in my lab, and to varying degrees at home, they have no opportunity to take ownership of these devices. They can't monkey about with the precious computers that we adults see as far to precious to fully hand over to children. A very basic symptom of this is that the students simply can't save their work. A save dialog box on most computers is very difficult to learn for the uninitiated. Add to this that all files which don't make it onto a shared network or USB drive are basically instantly lost given the shared nature of school computers. If the kids can't do something as simple as save a piece of writing, the computer is far less useful than a notebook. In this light, SOAS looks very appealing. The promise of handing a student their own _persistant_ computer where they are free to explore is exactly what I've been looking for. (to say nothing of sugar's Journal which I think is a brilliant answer to the above problem). I'm curious, how do my motivations match up with how you guys think about sugar? -John ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Local Labs motion
Hello, Not meaning to get in the way of the motion but after reading the log and the back and forth, may I suggest the following wording that I believe takes care of the legal, honors the concerns voiced, makes it more inviting, and suggests an informal non-legal association. Present: Sugar Labs Local Labs are not officially endorsed by or affiliated with Sugar Labs or the Software Freedom Conservancy. Revised: Sugar Labs Local Labs, although vital to the Sugar Labs community ecosystem, are not officially endorsed by or affiliated with Sugar Labs or the Software Freedom Conservancy. Hope it may help move the process forward. Best! John Tierney Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 19:13:26 -0400 From: walter.ben...@gmail.com To: h...@laptop.org; gerald.ard...@gmail.com; c...@laptop.org CC: t...@sfconservancy.org; bk...@sfconservancy.org; iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org; sl...@lists.sugarlabs.org Subject: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Local Labs motion Buried in the meeting log [1] is a motion [5] to adopt three changes [2, 3, 4] to the Trademark [6] and Local Labs [7] pages in the wiki. The motion was seconded and we began a vote, but whereas it seemed to be a controversial decision, I though it prudent to ask those who were not able to attend today's Sugar Labs oversight board meeting to also vote. So far, walter +1 cjl +1 icarito -1 alsroot has not voted yet. cjb, canoeberry, and geralda were not present. Please respond to this email with your vote. Also, there was motion [8], not yet seconded, to ask Tony if he was OK with a change in the wording of [4]. There was not consensus on the wording, but there was consensus on asking for Tony's input. Tony, could you please chime in? thanks. -walter -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org [1] http://meeting.sugarlabs.org/sugar-meeting/meetings/2012-05-30T21:08:10 [2] http://meeting.sugarlabs.org/sugar-meeting/meetings/2012-05-30T21:08:10#i_2739410 [3] http://meeting.sugarlabs.org/sugar-meeting/meetings/2012-05-30T21:08:10#i_2739421 [4] http://meeting.sugarlabs.org/sugar-meeting/meetings/2012-05-30T21:08:10#i_2739445 [5] http://meeting.sugarlabs.org/sugar-meeting/meetings/2012-05-30T21:08:10#i_2739570 [6] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Trademark [7] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Local_Labs [8] http://meeting.sugarlabs.org/sugar-meeting/meetings/2012-05-30T21:08:10#i_2739707 ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] Sugar Labs Website Revamp IRC Mtg 1-8-12 11:00amEST(16:00UTC)
Hello All, Happy New Year! As the New Year starts we are making another effort to restart the Sugar Labs Website Revamp. Designer and community member Christian Marc Schmidt has put together a Design Template along with a Sugar Labs Website Refresh: Content Document. These two documents along with the work and content gathering done by RIT Co-op students Mike Devine and JT Mengel last year will hopefully give us solid basis to start from. Our Kick-off IRC meeting will take place this Sunday Jan. 8th on#sugar-meeting at 11:00amEST(16:00UTC), after the Design Meeting surrounding Write To Journal Anytime taking place at 10:00amEST. Please join us if you are available-our key shortcoming last year in our attempt was a lack of content to effectively create the new site. All help is Welcome and needed. Because this is in the Building and Design stage please email me at: jtis4...@hotmail.com to get links to the preview documents if you are interested in being part of the process. Our First Step is to give Christian the Thumbs Up/Make Enhancements to the Design. Our Second Step will look to get individual community members to take responsibility in Content Gathering Areas that flow out of the documents Christian has prepared. Our Third Step is to execute Content Gathering Upon receiving enough content Christian will then commence the build phase. We hope you can join us on Sunday and look forward to working with the community to do this important work. Please let us know of your interest in taking part in this important endeavor. Appreciate the Collaboration! John Tierney P.S. Please get into the hands of those who will be best able to assist-Thank You! ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Contemplating Your SLOBS Vote
Hello All, To focus our thoughts on the intent of my original post I offer this simple statement: Having a Teacher on the Sugar Labs Oversight Board would be a Great Step Forward for Sugar, this is only achievable by the community exercising the power of their vote Best! John Tierney Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 15:22:16 -0300 From: gonz...@laptop.org To: car...@mac.com CC: olpc-...@lists.laptop.org; argent...@lists.laptop.org; somosazu...@lists.sugarlabs.org; olpc-boli...@lists.laptop.org; iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org; olpcp...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [IAEP] [Argentina] Contemplating Your SLOBS Vote I believe Sugar is doing serious damage to Plan Ceibal, to the uruguayan teachers, children, and to us all. This is the point. You are not trying to contribute to the project, because you think is a waste of time. Of course, I think different. As Mr. Bender expressed in one of his presentations Sugar is software under construction. Many people don't understood what Walter said here. It's not about a half finished project, is about a project with open doors, extensible, and free. You cannot ask teachers and children to start using their new computers by figuring out how to deal with this software under construction which, being so closely related to the operating system, happens to affect all uses of their laptops. My suggestion was and still is that after some years of trying the free software / volunteers route, with unacceptable results, get paid professional developers to swiftly work on correcting a good percentage of the problems, delivering working computers to the users. Some of those developers might well be some of the same working today as volunteers. Unacceptable results? Ok, go to use Windows Vista :) Gonzalo ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] Contemplating Your SLOBS Vote
Hello All, I write this email so all of our Sugar Labs community members may reflect a little on what their SLOBs vote this year will mean. I first want to say that all seven candidates are very qualified and all in their own ways have contributed in substantial way to try and make Sugar better. As I engage in Educational Outreach work for Sugar Labs, I often find myself as a facilitator between the technical/developer portion of the community and the not so technical Teacher and Educators who are using Sugar or who would like to. In this role I often see the gap between how these two different groups see things. The best way for me to describe this would be to say our developers/technical leaning portion of the community believe It's an Education Project as the mailing list states. In working with teachers and educators they tend to see things as It's a Technical Project. On the mailing lists, on IRC, and at community meet ups this theme of Sugar Labs needing to be more inclusive of teachers is a consistent theme. To remedy this situation I believe it is very important for Sugar Labs to have representation from a Teacher as part of SLOBS for two key reasons. -The first is the direction of Sugar Labs and the Sugar Learning Platform can never be as close to our end users Teachers and Students without it. -Second is the loud and clear message it sends out to all the teachers and educators who use or hope to use Sugar that their concerns and issues are truly cared about. Once again without a Teacher on SlLOBs this may be true in word, but for the best outcome for Sugar and it's use in the classroom,this must be true in action. In this years election there is only one candidate that fits that bill and that is Dr. Gerald Ardito, if there was additional teachers I would be lobbying for them as well. Understand this is not about the individual candidates, they are all great! This is about a decision about the direction of Sugar. Those who already may have a favorite candidate because of personally working with them or they may have like minded technical views. I ask you to just take a moment to consider that decision and ask yourself if the SLOBs election results ends again with no Teacher in place can we truly have Sugar become the Learn How to Learn Learning Platform we all desire. All I hope is that when community members are making their selection they will contemplate these thoughts and then make what they believe is the best decision for the future of Sugar. Thank You for Your Time! John Tierney P.S. If anyone believes this should be posted to other lists because not everyone will see it here, I would appreciate if you would pass it along. ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] for today's meeting: certificate program proposal
Hello, I think the title you may be looking for is Sugar Facilitator or Sugar Ambassador. Best! John Tierney Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 15:12:22 -0300 From: edujam2...@ceibaljam.org To: sl...@lists.sugarlabs.org; iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org; sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org Subject: Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] for today's meeting: certificate program proposal I wonder if there shouldn't be a certification for Sugar Animators or something like this (actually I'd like to find a better word than animator). I'm thinking on the people that contributes keeping the community or a local lab moving on: Organizing events, coordinating teams of programmers or educators, making public Sugar advocacy, doing bureaucratic stuff needed to keep Sugar Labs or a local lab working, looking for resources, etc. It's not that I want a certification that fits me ;-) IMHO they're important actors that should be recognized. On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 10:13 AM, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com wrote: Following up on a thread begun in mid July (http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/iaep/2011-July/013736.html) I would like to discuss the following proposal this morning: Sugar Labs will award certificates to developers to acknowledge and celebrate their contributions to the Sugar Learning Platform. Several certificates will be made available: Sugar X Contributor; Sugar Activity Developer; and Sugar Core Developer. The Sugar X Contributor certificate will be given to an individual who over the course of a sustained effort of at least 6 months contributes to some Sugar community team, e.g., Sugar Translation Contributor. (The teams are listed on the wiki). The specific criteria for certification will be determined by the team coordinators, but in general, it would involve a repeated effort on behalf of the team's goals at a high level of quality (e.g., of quality sufficient to be incorportated into our offerings). The Sugar Activity Developer certificate will be given to an individual who develops at least one Sugar activity that is subsequently posted on the Sugar activity portal and be of sufficient quality to be approved for public release. The activity must also include internationalization, including the submission of a POT file to the Translation Team, and documentation, including the creation of a page in the wiki under the Activity category. As will the Contributor certificates, sign off will be made by the associated team coordinators, in this case the Activity team. The Sugar Core Developer certificate will be given to an individual who over the course of one year makes significant contributions to the Sugar core libraries, e.g., sugar-toolkit or sugar. Sign off will be made by the Developer team coordinators. -walter -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] Sugar Labs Website Revamp IRC Meeting Notes 4-20-11
Hello Community, Below are notes from IRC meeting about Sugar Website Revamp last Night- This should bring community up to date on our progress. Our Co-op students from RIT Mike Devine and JT Mengel could use community help. They are in charge of collecting content for our lead designer Christian Marc Schmidt to put in place. We are looking for all Content Sugar-Videos, Tutorials, How To's, Case Studies, Sugar Tips and Tricks, Anecdotes from Teachers in the Field, Sugar Research, and any other cool things Sugar!!! Upon assessing what we have in place we will be asking for the communities help(During month of May) in helping to make some of these resources less technical in nature and classroom ready for Teachers. Please send all content and resources with attachments to: mod1...@rit.edu Thank You in Advance! John Tierney P.S. Please make us aware of any Teacher's who might like to help Beta-test new site. IRC #sugar-meeting Wed April 20th 2011 christianmarcsch hi everyone * mikedevine (~ad...@province-wireless-173-84-27-172.dr02.roch.ny.frontiernet.net) has joined #sugar-meeting JT4sugar Hi Christian Mike mikedevine hey John JT4sugar christianmarcsch, I think we are waiting on JT, Bernie, and Dogi although Dogi may be on christianmarcsch JT4sugar: sounds good, i'll stand by mikedevine JT texted me saying he's running a bit late JT4sugar I spoke with Prof McEneaney today about Beta-testing site his PHD class begins May 3rd runs to June 16th he would like to make this part of class when do you think we could have site ready for some testing or get test materials into his hands? christianmarcsch JT4sugar: i think that really depends largely on the content. the design is coming along, but i'm at a point where i really need to start working with some actual materials for placement. christianmarcsch JT4sugar: in theory, june 16th sounds realistic though mikedevine christian: i've slowly been adding content as i get it on the google docs. mostly images JT4sugar christianmarcsch, June 16th is when his class ends-starts May 3rd. Do we think we will have anything to show community at Uruguay Summit May 5-8 christianmarcsch JT4sugar: again i'd need to turn to JT and Mike. we could certainly have design comps to show, but right now i'm still using lorem ipsum for placeholder and we don't yet have any imagery or other content christianmarcsch i'll send out a link to the latest work JT4sugar christianmarcsch, If content is coming in to slowly and will take longer to put in place I will let him know it looks like their would be chance to work with him in Fall christianmarcsch JT4sugar: so far i actually don't have any content besides the images that mike sent two weeks ago christianmarcsch JT4sugar: it's not important that we have everything now, but i was hoping at least for a few sample materials (case studies, etc.), as well as copy that needs to be written for the individual sections mikedevine christian: yeah i haven't gotten any of that really christianmarcsch mikedevine: i know you two were busy last week with the microsite JT4sugar mikedevine, Any luck with content from pinging people through OLPC Map approach? mikedevine yeah that's where io've gotten the most responses mikedevine it's just tedious because it means emailing each marker on the map 1 by 1 lol mikedevine most of the replies are offers to help rather than actual content, but i've gotten a bit * dogi is cocking and locking only from time to time in the chat christianmarcsch mikedevine: that's a good start... could i suggest that we create a dropbox folder to store all the assets? christianmarcsch mikedevine: we can create subfolders for each content type mikedevine well the google docs has that mikedevine in the call for content section christianmarcsch mikedevine: i think we should move the assets to dropbox, it will make it a lot easier to work christianmarcsch mikedevine: do you have an account? mikedevine no not yet christianmarcsch mikedevine: why don't you go ahead and set one up--it's a great tool to have access to! christianmarcsch mikedevine: i'll send out an invitation to a folder we can all use mikedevine ok christianmarcsch by the way, the latest comps are here: christianmarcsch http://christianmarcschmidt.com/projects/sugarlabs/ christianmarcsch i've cleaned them up a bit, still not 100% but getting there JT4sugar christianmarcsch, What I think would be helpful would to see what we can put in place and come up with list of things we feel are missing. I can make that as part of my mission in Uruguay to tap community. I'm about 80% sure I'm going christianmarcsch the templates are mostly worked out, though i'm missing the press page and the homepage, as well as any other unique pagetypes * m_anish is now known as m_anish_afk * m_anish_afk is now known as m_anish christianmarcsch JT4sugar: that sounds good. JT had a list of content types already
[IAEP] One-to-one research
Hi Beth, You should find this very useful: The Volume 9 Special Edition Educational Outcomes and Research from 1:1 Computing settings of The Journal of Technology, Learning, and Assessment is completely devoted to the subject: http://escholarship.bc.edu/jtla/ Best! John Tierney Message: 3 Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 11:59:13 -0400 From: Beth Santos b...@waveplace.org To: iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org, Maho 2010 m...@realness.org Subject: [IAEP] One-to-one research Message-ID: aanlktimfklwhhqwitqs8lxxkewi1m7t6chpaoeki4...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hi all, looking for any research/documentation directly addressing the efficacy of one-to-one laptop programs and Papert-like instruction. Any help would be great. Thanks much! Beth --- *Beth Santos* Outreach Coordinator Waveplace Foundation Tel: +1 610 797 3100 x 44 Fax: +1 610 797 3199 Cell: +1 603 661 1273 http://www.waveplace.org Waveplace on Facebookhttp://www.facebook.com/pages/Waveplace/270512992335?ref=ts Twitter: @waveplace http://twitter.com/waveplace ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] Requesting Feedback MarketLab Opportunity
Hello Everyone, We have an opportunity this Fall to be part of a MarketLab Student Project, http://web.mit.edu/marketingclub/marketlab/ We have been asked to submit a proposal for the marketing needs of Sugar Labs on Friday, August 20th. I have sent this to the multiple lists because I believe all parts of Sugar Labs should weigh-in and let us know how Sugar Labs Marketing in collaboration with MarketLab Team members can help in your efforts. This is an excerpt from IRC Chat this morning discussing the MarketLab project possibilities: JT4sugar walterbender, I guess question is do we want them to work on certain areas or do we want them to come up with a marketing straegy for us JT4sugar Strategy walterbender JT4sugar: I think the more focused, the more likely we will get something useful/actionable from them JT4sugar walterbender, I think then Public Awareness, Teacher Awareness Participation, Fundraising-Mostly for Teacher Events? Your thoughts/ideas walterbender JT4sugar: I've got pretty limited time for writing this week -- a competing deadline -- so perhaps we can come up with a specific plan of action for getting this proposal out the door? walterbender JT4sugar: I'd like to fund more developer and developer/deployment face-to-face time as well walterbender JT4sugar: we are lacking a 1-page this-is-what-we-are here-is-how-you-can-help pamphlet as well JT4sugar walterbender, I will put it together. I will send email to list about opportunity to gather feedback. Will add developer needs to fundrasing part walterbender JT4sugar: if there is some specific writing you'd like me to do, let me know JT4sugar walterbender, I will plan to get you a draft by Thursday so you can make additions/changes walterbender JT4sugar: +1 Please take a few minutes to reflect on your area of Sugar Labs. Please identify the areas/subjects you believe this student team at MIT Sloan MarketLab can help Sugar Labs with. Appreciate Your Time, Thoughts, and Ideas! John Tierney ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] [SLOBS] Notes SLOBS Trademark Discussion 4-12-10
Typed Copy of John Tierney written Notes of Key Points from SLOBs Trademark Discussion Monday night April 12th 2010 at OLPC Offices-Cambridge, MA. I believe I have cc'd everyone who was at meeting plus Bernie, sorry if I missed someone. (Please understand these were not minutes but personal notes, so please add comments or clarifications) Sean Daly -Tech PR -Build Brand Logo/Symbol-Meaning What Does it Stand For Values Discrimination/Exclusion-Means this, not that -Platform Ecosystem Activities -Example Adobe Labeling Program Intel Labeling Program -Which Allows for Revenue Stream From OEM Control Shaping of Brand Chris Ball -Agreement Label O.K. Revenue O.K. Smaller Set -Distribution of Code Unmodified Sugar Code Being Used By Someone-O.K. Unmodified Sugar Code with Slight Modifications-Translation, etc.-O.K. Modified Code-Must Ask -Example Ziff.org-Write Codecs GPL-Mention License Author Source Areas of Agreement on Cases where potential partner must ask for Trademark use 0. Encouraging Phrases** 1. Websites-Must Ask 2. Modified Versions-Must Ask 3. Reserved Names(Sugar on a Stick)-Must Ask 4. Logo Program-Must Ask 5. Mostly Unmodified-Must Ask **(This zero point was mentioned by Chris Ball actually last I didn't record what he might of actually titled this, this was the words I was using) A few themes I took away from the meeting are as follows: Encourage vs. Discourage Unmodified vs. Modified Logo Program-With Gradations of involvement(Possibly 3 to 4 Different Logos for Partners depending on level of involvement. Possible to have one Logo to show partners with Modified Sugar Code) My thought would be if we can focus on the Encourage and Logo Program Themes, I think it will help us come up with final wording that displays Sugar Labs as a Proactive/ Inclusive/Collaborative Partner. A suggestion to achieve this would be to: Quickly come up with the names for the labeling program along with what level of involvement and/or unmodified/modified Sugar Code that involves. We in turn need to work on Logo's but are not necessary to written copy **Sean can you post a draft outline of Labeling Program to begin discussion** With a Labeling/Logo Description in place by default those definitions will answer many of the use cases. We can then take the January 15 2010 Draft and build that language around Labeling Program with an aim to use encouraging/inclusive and clearer language. These two portions in particular seem somewhat contradictory in language after reading them and comparing them to notes and meeting discussion. Hopefully Labeling Program can absorb these two parts and allow for a clear differentiation in use cases and proper interaction with Sugar Labs to benefit the parties involved. 2a. To refer to the Sugar Labs software in substantially unmodified form substantially unmodified means built from the source code provided by the Sugar Labs project, possibly with minor modifications including but not limited to: the enabling or disabling of certain features by default, translations into other languages, changes required for compatibility with a particular operating system distribution, or the inclusion of bug-fix patches). All such minor modifications must be released under an approved license. **It seems to say you can use with some minor modifications but then says all minor modifications must be released with approved license*** 3. You may use the Sugar Labs Marks as part of the name of a product designed to work with Sugar Labs, so long as the name as a whole (via its other components) clearly and unambiguously distinguishes the product from Sugar Labs software itself, and the general presentation of the product does not imply any official association or identity with Sugar Labs. Because it would be awkward to attach a trademark symbol to a portion of a larger name whose other portions might themselves be trademarked, the requirement to display the symbol is waived for this circumstance. ***It would seem if the Sugar Labs Marks were part of the name of a product that would indicate that there is a perceived official relationship or identity to Sugar Labs which then contradicts with the next statement*** Example: If I trademark JT Linux and then sell a product JT Linux with Sugar on Board from the reading above I'm confused if I could do that or not. From the meeting my understanding is that I could. Since many of the individuals who end up redistributing Sugar may very well be of the non-technical nature(in a writing/ coding/distributing Software sense) we must try to use language that encourages them and shy away from technical/legal language that may discourage/intimidate a potential deployer of the Sugar Learning Platform. Again please fill in areas of importance that I have missed. Appreciate the Chance to Participate! John Tierney
Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Monday evening dinner meeting
On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 17:43, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com wrote: It has been suggested that we meet over dinner on Monday evening, April 11. We can use Tuesday for some face-to-face working sessions as well. Would this schedule work for everyone? I wll also be available to attend and look forward to the opportunity. Regards! John Tierney ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [Marketing] SoaS change of direction: heads-up on convos in other lists
Hello All, In wanting to have Teachers and Developers try Sugar are best bet may be to attack this with a two-fold approach. The idea would be to give the prospective Teacher/Deployer Two SoaS-A stable version-say Strawberry explaining exactly what Sugar Labs means by Stable. Then the Newer Developer edition Mirabelle that allows them to test and be part of the Future Research and Development portion of Sugar. This would seem to get around many of the issues and draw support for stable and cutting edge versions. Sugar Today-Sugar Tomorrow 2Pack-Add in SoaS Creation Kit with both images and Instructions and we could have something very helpful to all participants. If this route is chosen then the Developer release of Mirabelle should have many of the broken activities. These broken activities would seem to be a perfect place for many new community members to get acquainted with Sugar(Testing, Learning the Bug reporting system, Fixing activities). Activities are at the core of the Learning How To Learn portion of the Sugar Learning Platform so the appropriate level of resources making sure the communication is in place to keep them maintained should be of key focus, since it will be one the largest keys to our success in the classroom. Best! John Tierney Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 15:35:14 +0100 From: to...@tomeuvizoso.net To: pbrobin...@gmail.com CC: martin.langh...@gmail.com; m...@melchua.com; market...@lists.sugarlabs.org; walter.ben...@gmail.com; iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org; s...@sugarlabs.org Subject: Re: [Marketing] [IAEP] SoaS change of direction: heads-up on convos in other lists On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 15:24, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 2:21 PM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@tomeuvizoso.net wrote: On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 15:11, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: This is where you start is definitely the message that should be pushed. Also a Install and update Activities control panel which uses PackageKit would make it much easier to automatically find and install Activities as well as update them at a later stage. There is a lot of discussion about this and other approaches to packaging... some movement as well. It will get better. The problem is that there is only a partial overlap between what is currently well maintained and what is needed by the end users and since there is often a issue with network access for our end users, an install and update model will often fail, regardless of the packaging system used. This is why I think it is important to still offer an experimental build that trades reliability and support for variety and inclusiveness. Again, how this is communicated is paramount. WRT to packagekit. The advantage that it has is that it supports .deb and .rpm so what ever the underlying distro is it will work and in the case of the rpm support at least (I don't know enough about the deb integration) you can use locally hosted repos in the case of a school server, and it even support static media such as optical and usb sticks. So it covers a lot more options than just being connected to the internet. WRT the experimental with lots of variety vs the stable with not so much I personally believe there's pros and cons to both approaches. The former is what we've done with previous SOAS releases but we've had the SOAS SUCKS because Activity X doesn't work remarks which isn't good or constructive and its much harder to support for a small core team. The later approach will have I wish there was Activity Y but at least the included Activities should be more stable. In the short term for SOAS-3 there will be the SOAS-3 sucks because previous releases came with Z as well. Basically in the short term we're screwed which ever way. But on the plus side it should give Activity developers incentive to better support their Activities and make them more stable so they'll be considered for inclusion in a later release. The move to Fedora is also intended to help reduce the workload for all involved. Like the merger of Moblin and Maemo there is a lot of cross over between Sugar and other Fedora projects with very similar underlying core platforms. Gnome/Sugar/Moblin/Meego are all based on telepathy/gstreamer/xulrunner etc and the last 3 are all designed for small platforms (and if you take gnome-mobile into that as well they all are) so they all meld together and the difference ends up being the GUI on top so to be able to utilise all the associated engineering resources to reduce overall load it helps everyone, especially the smaller projects like SOAS. The good news is that Collabora is helping Tomeu with a migration of the Sugar Telephany work, so we should be better aligned with the mainstream there come 0.90. We are also working to better leverage gstreamer in order to phase out a dependence on alsa
Re: [IAEP] [Marketing] Sugar Labs GSoC 2010 Flyer - please review
Hi Tim, Like the content! My Suggestion-same content slightly different order and add Sugar Labs Logo. Top Line: Google Summer of Code 2010 Next: Enhance Your Skills While Assisting Children's Education Picture: Next: Apply To Be Student for Next: Insert Sugar Labs Logo Next:http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/summer_of_code Best! John Tierney Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 12:04:24 +1300 From: paperl...@timmcnamara.co.nz To: iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org; sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org; market...@lists.sugarlabs.org Subject: [Marketing] Sugar Labs GSoC 2010 Flyer - please review Hi all, If you have 30 seconds free, please review http://issuu.com/timclicks/docs/sugarlabs_gsoc_2010. I've gone for simplicity over . My main consideration was tying together growth children's learning. I think you'll smile when you see the result. If people are relatively happy with it, we can start forwarding it around. I've used a web-based solution to avoid clogging up people's inboxes. If you would like the PDF or raw SVG, do let me know. Tim @timClicks ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] FW: Tutorius Meeting minutes - 2009/11/19
JujJust wanted to mention my admiration for the Tutorious team: they have pushed forward a big feature that affects shell and activities, have set up their instance of AMO for tutorials, have pinged periodically the community for feedback, have made a spin of SoaS so others can more easily test their work, have contacted the testing team at NZ for feedback, etc. And not because that's a lot of work, but because it's the _right_ work to do. Kudos to them and whoever is mentoring! Regards, Tomeu Hello All, Myself and Gerald Ardito had a Skype meeting with Erick Lavoie and Michael Montclam from the Tutorius Project last Thursday Nov. 19th, the notes from that session are below. Since the comments/suggestions from Gerald and I are U.S. based, I am in the process of trying to set up a second meeting between Tutorious and Enhanced Learning Strategy-Ron Canuel had a Team that went down to Uruguay recently and visited 18 schools. This will give the Tutorius Team an additional view to incorporate into the project and allow for the internationalization of Tutorious, which is one of their objectives. They are due to finalize the Project and give a Final Presentation in early December to complete this class project. They have indicated an interest to merge Tutorius ability into Sugar when it is at a stable state. I indicated to them I would reach out to the Sugar Developer community-Tomeu,Walter, and others to see if there can be some joint planning or conversations that would lead to this possibilty. Please let me know how we can proceed on this front. I look forward to trying to facilitate these initiatives, which I believe will be very valuable for students, teachers, and activity developers alike. Best! John Tierney Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 21:17:23 + Subject: Meeting minute - 2009/11/19 From: michael.jmontc...@gmail.com To: jtis4...@hotmail.com; gerald.ard...@gmail.com Hi guys! Here are the notes for today's meeting. Feel free to add precisions and comments if anything was missed. You can access the document right here : https://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=0AVT_nzmWT2B2ZGN3dDd2MzRfNTF0dzMyNGdnaghl=en Thank you for your time and the great ideas! Michael Meeting minute 2009/11//19 Attendees : John Gerald Érick Michael Minute : Introduction Gerald's tests 5 XO classrooms since January in middle school Doctoral thesis on Sugar Focus on curricular needs with teachers Ex : Using etoys to do an interactive story book Pre-testing with Test Team students in class, then attempting with the whole class Works really well and adds much more depth to the teaching Gerald's view of Tutorius Offer assistance on learning the platform (journal, using write activity, etc...) Using the platform is one of the hurdles to getting the most out of activities To have Tutorius to walk them through those skills would be incredibly useful Gerald's perception Tutorius would be immediately useful in teaching the basic Sugar skills But not so much for the specifics of the activity John's suggestion It would be great to have tutorials on how to do tutorials Technical details How can we deploy Tutorius on the XOs? Is it an activity? Can it be easily installed? No, it's a direct integration with the Sugar OS Questions from John What are the details for the merging? Tutorius would need to stabilize its code base The activities are not all consistent (e.g. save_state function) A screencast utility for Sugar Make a tutorial inside a screencast Dump the screencast on the web Point the students to the web Gerald is concerned on application on the XO Re-flashing the XOs is not hard but would wipe all data Could we have an automatic upload to YouTube? The XO is a great computer for kids because of its form factor It is slower, but the kids relate to the device differently Akin to the way they use their iPhones and MP3 players Re-flashing would be ok, providing a way to save data and restore it A screencast would be a backup plan Erick's question What does a tutorial adds to a screencast? Gerald : Having a label is for actions is great information John The important first step is to get a screencast tool out there with Tutorius First steps John : Short term is more important than long term Erick's question : Is internationalization important? We could offer it in an easy way or a complete support. John : Support for this would be awesome, but sounds a bit more on the long term approach. Walter and Tomeu could point us better Error case support : if students click on the wrong button, how do we address this? Gerald : We could inspire ourselves from an Adobe product that does interactive screencast? Adobe Captivé Sharing : we have a basic, non-secure prototype. We do not have a full-fledged sharing platform. Gerald : There are no really good way to share things in Sugar yet. You can collaborate, but you cannot share products easily
[IAEP] FW: Texas Tech University work with XO/Sugar
Hi Sean, Prof. Rich Rice from Texas Tech University did some revisions on their XO/Sugar video from Science Spectrum in Lubbock, TX and it is now ready to go on the Daily Motion site. (See below). http://richrice.com/5365/iplay-short.mov I have also sent Prof. Rice and 13 of his colleagues in the Computers and Writing Community Sugar on a Stick. http://writingprogram.ucdavis.edu/cw2009/ Three of the colleagues are on the Committee on Computers in Composition and Communication (March 2012) http://www.ncte.org//committees/7cs Pay attention to Point 2]... Include in these activities attention to open source and community source projects and software, calling attention to best practices, when possible, and providing guidelines on issues and strategies... Douglas Eyman, Assistant Professor of English, George Mason University, and Senior Editor of Kairos: Rhetoric, Technology, Pedagogy Robert “Bob” Whipple, Associate Professor of English and A.F. Jacobson Endowed Chair in Communication, Creighton University Tammy S. Conard-Salvo Associate Director, Writing Lab Purdue University Many of these professors are on Summer Break so the feedback from them on Sugar on a Stick will probably trickle in over the next month and a half and should pick up in the later part of August as their perspective Universities go back into session. I will be looking to engage these Professors along with their students in projects that will embed the writing process and command of language skills into the Sugar Learning Platform. In the University World this would be described as Writing Across the Curriculum, in the world of Sugar-Writing Across the Activities is something we should strive for. Any and All ideas on how we might accomplish this would be appreciated. Best, JT From: rich.r...@ttu.edu To: jtis4...@hotmail.com Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 18:28:17 -0500 Subject: RE: [IAEP] Texas Tech University work with XO/Sugar John, I re-edited to shorten the video some and to put in music that is not copyrighted. If you like, you could put up the file http://richrice.com/5365/iplay-short.mov on dailymotion/sugarlabs. The video would now be able to fall under CC. Playing with sugar sticks now. Rich Dr. Rich Rice, Associate Professor TTU Department of English http://richrice.com From: John Tierney [jtis4...@hotmail.com] Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 7:33 PM To: Rice, Rich Subject: FW: [IAEP] Texas Tech University work with XO/Sugar Hi Rich, I had forwarded an email with the link to the Science Spectrum video: http://media.English.TTU.edu/faculty/rice/5365/iplay.wmv Sugar Labs Marketing Coordinator Sean Daly was interested in trans-coding the video to an Open Source format and was wondering if it has a Creative Commons designation so it could be put up with other Sugar Labs videos on the Daily Motion site: http://www.dailymotion.com/sugarlabs Your guidance on this would be appreciated. Thanks! John Tierney P.S. Tammy should have a Sugar on A Stick for you at CW if the logistics work-out. Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 22:56:22 +0200 Subject: Re: [IAEP] Texas Tech University work with XO/Sugar From: sdaly...@gmail.com To: jtis4...@hotmail.com CC: iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org; market...@lists.sugarlabs.org; sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org Wow I can't wait to see that (can't on this machine) I'm interested in transcoding this to Ogg Theora, do you think we could ask him for a higher-quality source version I could transcode? is it CC, could we put it up on the Dailymotion site? Texas is Dell Foundation country. Hmmm... Sean ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] Texas Tech University work with XO/Sugar
Hello All, Just wanted to pass along this email and video to everyone to show others like ourselves our hard at work trying to highlight and increase the effectiveness of Sugar and the XO. Video is about 35min in length-well done and inspires like minded work to be done. Best, John Tierney Subject: TTU's work with XO Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2009 10:47:08 -0400 From: tcsa...@purdue.edu To: rich.r...@ttu.edu; jtis4...@hotmail.com Dear John, I’ve mentioned to you that Rich Rice at Texas Tech University has been using XO laptops for outreach with k-12 students, and recently, he and his graduate students completed a project with the Science Spectrum in Lubbock, TX. Science Spectrum is the local science museum. As you can see from the following movie, they developed some innovative activities and documented their work with children who stopped by the Science Spectrum. They’ve had quite a bit of success using the drawing and chat .software, among others. http://media.English.TTU.edu/faculty/rice/5365/iplay.wmv Rich is also a member of the Computers and Writing community and is interested in exploring other ways that CW can do outreach with k-12 schools using the XO and the Sugar platform. I’ve copied him on this message, so we can continue to talk about options for immediate and long-term projects like working with the National Writing Project. Tammy -- Tammy S. Conard-Salvo Associate Director, Writing Lab Purdue University ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] How Can We Showcase Turtle Art Portfolio
Hello All, Would like commentary from the community on how we can try and showcase the abilities of Turtle art Portfolio along with the things each of us are working on. The email below came from my inability(due to my confusing question) to start the thread in our IRC marketing meeting today. I hope those of you going to Paris get a chance to spend some time on this subject. This is an important piece of our Educational Outreach and a capability that all community members can showcase. Therefore, I have cross-posted to IAEP, Developer, and Marketing-please pass along to others who can be of help to the conversation. Thanks, John Tierney Hi Walter,Sorry I wasn't so clear in my question was just trying to start thread about importance of Showcasing TA Portfolio-The Journal and TA Portfolio combination for Teachers ability to see child's work and progression is one of the themes we should push. The idea that every activity integrates with the Portfolio is great selling point for teachers. When developers and activity designers discuss and describe their work mentioning it integrates with TA portfolio reinforces key concepts of reflection and critique and allows for children to showcase their creativity for Parents, Teachers, Peers and Community. From the non-technical/developer world I am not sure if it works with all activities. Showcasing and featuring the TA Portfolio as an additional assessment source which allows children to let their creativity shine is an important thing to get across. Allowing all community members to market this ability(Helps or Works with TA Portfolio) will help bring many more Teachers and others into the fold. Having a little session with the members at Sugar Camp Paris and with OLPC France about TA Portfolio and its ability to help Teachers and Students and the Programs ability would be very beneficial, even more so if it was recorded. Much like Evangeline's and your presentation at Sugar Camp it was one of the most instructive pieces on how this ability can make a true difference in the classroom. Now that the TA Portfolio activity has been realized, putting forth it's usability seems advantageous.Just an idea-Spot on. The reason why I give all my talks using Turtle Art is exactly to make this point of closing the loop. -walter___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [Marketing] Wanted: Videos of Sugar and XOs in action
Hi Christoph, This is from the deployment in Birmingham, Alabama. The engagement of the children involved tells the story! http://olpc.tv/category/country/usa-country/ On the same site there are many others to choose from as well. Hope you find one that fits your purpose. Have An Outstanding Day! John Tierney Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 00:50:31 +0200 From: e0425...@student.tuwien.ac.at To: iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org CC: market...@lists.sugarlabs.org; tano.bojan...@olpc.at; grassro...@lists.laptop.org Subject: [Marketing] Wanted: Videos of Sugar and XOs in action Hi all, for a presentation here in Vienna that's coming up at the end of the week Tano (in CC) and myself are looking for videos (in English or with English subtitles) of Sugar and XO in action. Preferably we would want to see more than just smiling faces when being handed a laptop by government officials and rather focus on usage in or outside the classroom. Did a quick search on the mailing-lists and wiki and couldn't find anything suitable so far... Any pointers and advice are much appreciated! Thanks in advance, Christoph -- Christoph Derndorfer co-editor, olpcnews url: www.olpcnews.com e-mail: christ...@olpcnews.com ___ Marketing mailing list market...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/marketing ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [Marketing] Laptops build bridge to Ireland (from Chicago)
Hi Sean, But, Teachers are still developing ways to make the most of the partnership in their lessons. This is a site to look at that you may suggest to both schools to use to work with each other and other classrooms throughout the world: TakingITGlobal-www.tigweb.org When I attended Enhanced Learning Strategy-Literacy and Technology Showcase February 20th, 2009, I saw a talk on the use of TakingITGlobal:The Canadian students were working with a class in Uganda and the learning opportunity created was very powerful. Eastern Township School District Magog,Quebec Canada has been running a 1:1 with Apple MacBooks for the last 6 years. Ron Canuel-Director General Eastern Township School District gave a presentation at XOCamp2 in January. I have emailed Ron Canuel about the availability of Sugar through VirtualBox on Mac OS and he will be passing information onto his Educational technology staff to pilot. We have call scheduled for later this week. Enhanced Learning Strategy http://www.etsb.qc.ca/en/Home/default.shtm JT Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 14:25:53 +0100 From: sdaly...@gmail.com To: carol...@solutiongrove.com CC: iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org; market...@lists.sugarlabs.org Subject: Re: [Marketing] Laptops build bridge to Ireland (from Chicago) I'll be following up for more information! On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 2:19 PM, Caroline Meeks carol...@solutiongrove.com wrote: It would be interesting to know if they are using a computer lab or laptop cart, in which case they would probably want Sugar on a Stick, or if they have individual laptops in which case they probably want to emulate. On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 9:11 AM, Sean DALY sdaly...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Caroline, no we don't but it's a sure bet they are not XO-1s On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 1:33 PM, Caroline Meeks carol...@solutiongrove.com wrote: Do we know what kind of computers the kids in Ireland are using? -- Caroline Meeks Solution Grove carol...@solutiongrove.com 617-500-3488 - Office 505-213-3268 - Fax ___ Marketing mailing list market...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/marketing ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Marketing tag line
Message: 5 Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 23:56:47 + From: Gary C Martin g...@garycmartin.com Subject: Re: [IAEP] Marketing tag line To: David Farning dfarn...@sugarlabs.org Cc: iaep iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org Message-ID: 89c30760-9a9f-44a5-a6b1-bd72db531...@garycmartin.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed David, oh please, get it right... On 12 Jan 2009, at 23:53, David Farning wrote: Sugar - emacs for a new generation Sugar - vi for a new generation :-b --G How about: Sugar- The Intellectual Playground Where Kids Learn How To Learn ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
