Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] [SLOB] email motion re Scratch Conference

2017-05-23 Thread Tymon Radzik
wt., 23 maj 2017 o 00:37 użytkownik Samson Goddy <samsongo...@sugarlabs.org>
napisał:

> Thanks for your input Tymon,
>
> However i perfectly understand that Sugar Labs is NGO.. And also getting a
> Schengen visa is also hard too. But also, bare in mind that before leaving
> any country, you have to show prove of paying for your flight and stay in
> the arrival country which in this case is france. I also made calls with
> the french embassy, we know what we are facing. We already reached out to
> the people inviting us from france about some documentations and bank
> statements since we are invited. Even the 30,000 euros health insurance is
> been taken care of by the team in France.
>
>
If $2,800 is alot of money for the community as most people said. It is
> fine, i just wish you can come stay in Nigeria for a week then make travel
> arrangement.
>

Money we have deserves respect, it is shared and we take responsibility for
it. Also legal responsibility. Our reputation and well-being requires us to
be transparent and make wise financial decisions - minimum cost, maximum
benefit.

And with all the respect to you and with no prejudice, I need to underline
we are not in real need to send people who face problems traveling
internatioanlly to represent us on Scratch conference taking place on the
other hemisphere, if we can send someone who lives much closer and
therefore for much less cost. It is nothing personal, just a rational
thought.

BTW, in case something bad happens while you're in EU, 30,000 euro health
insurance may not be sufficient. Medical services are really expensive
there.


> I will keep reaching and helping this community in the best way i can,
> after all i went to Nairobi without Sugar Labs support. which i happen to
> spend more than i expected before of the foreign exchange rate.
>
>
I make no accusations about your community involvement. IMO we just don't
need you traveling to France. Money should be spent to reach organization's
goals.


> I hate repeating myself.. So i will stop replying any questions that is
> already answered concerning this motion.
>
> Like i said, it is up to the community to decide how Sugar Labs runs.
>
> i want to thank everyone who voted and made some comments but now, i think
> i am done talking.
>

Sure, it's your right. As my right is to express my own opinion about this
case.


>
> FYI, i am not mad or angry, but somehow surprise but not totally not
> surprised.
>

I am sorry, I don't understand this statement at all.


>
> Regards
> Samson G
>
>
Best,
Tymon


> On Mon, May 22, 2017 at 11:17 PM, Tymon Radzik <ty...@sugarlabs.org>
> wrote:
>
>> I am not anyhow permitted to vote, I'd like to share my mind with you,
>> though. I completely support Lionel's opinion.
>>
>> I think Sugar Labs, as every NGO, should be really careful and strict
>> while making financial decisions, especially these related to spending
>> money we collected. Costs to benefits calculation ought to be always made
>> and well considered. I do not see this high expense ($2800 is a lot of
>> money) as something necessary and possibly more rewarding for our community
>> than having OLPC representation. With all respect to Samson and Ibiam and
>> the great work they do - I think it is not it our interest to fund such
>> journeys. Private and more public matters need to be distinguished.
>>
>> As a EU citizen, who has already helped some foreigners to get through
>> arrival process to Europe, I can confirm getting Schengen visa nowadays due
>> to the refugee crisis seems to be definitely not easy.
>>
>> Best,
>> Tymon
>>
>> pt., 19 maj 2017 o 21:13 użytkownik Lionel Laské <lionel.la...@gmail.com>
>> napisał:
>>
>>>
>>> I'm not for the idea:
>>> - It's possible than some OLPC France guys will be present there. They
>>> could present Sugar/Sugarizer to the conference as well. And if they do,
>>> the come from France - compared to Nigeria.
>>> - Are you sure to obtain a Visa for the conference ? French government
>>> is sometimes hard about Visa delivery to avoid illegal immigration.
>>>
>>>Lionel.
>>>
>>>
>>> 2017-05-19 18:10 GMT+02:00 Ignacio Rodríguez <igna...@sugarlabs.org>:
>>>
>>>> I still don't know the difference of "seconded" or +1 to be honest :P
>>>>
>>>> But as I already said, its +1 from me
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 1:01 PM Walter Bender <walter.ben...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> +1
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 11:56 

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] [SLOB] email motion re Scratch Conference

2017-05-22 Thread Tymon Radzik
I am not anyhow permitted to vote, I'd like to share my mind with you,
though. I completely support Lionel's opinion.

I think Sugar Labs, as every NGO, should be really careful and strict while
making financial decisions, especially these related to spending money we
collected. Costs to benefits calculation ought to be always made and well
considered. I do not see this high expense ($2800 is a lot of money) as
something necessary and possibly more rewarding for our community than
having OLPC representation. With all respect to Samson and Ibiam and the
great work they do - I think it is not it our interest to fund such
journeys. Private and more public matters need to be distinguished.

As a EU citizen, who has already helped some foreigners to get through
arrival process to Europe, I can confirm getting Schengen visa nowadays due
to the refugee crisis seems to be definitely not easy.

Best,
Tymon

pt., 19 maj 2017 o 21:13 użytkownik Lionel Laské 
napisał:

>
> I'm not for the idea:
> - It's possible than some OLPC France guys will be present there. They
> could present Sugar/Sugarizer to the conference as well. And if they do,
> the come from France - compared to Nigeria.
> - Are you sure to obtain a Visa for the conference ? French government is
> sometimes hard about Visa delivery to avoid illegal immigration.
>
>Lionel.
>
>
> 2017-05-19 18:10 GMT+02:00 Ignacio Rodríguez :
>
>> I still don't know the difference of "seconded" or +1 to be honest :P
>>
>> But as I already said, its +1 from me
>>
>> On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 1:01 PM Walter Bender 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> +1
>>>
>>> On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 11:56 AM, Sameer Verma  wrote:
>>>
 I second.

 Sameer

 On May 19, 2017 5:50 AM, "Walter Bender" 
 wrote:

 Perhaps someone can second the motion so we can begin voting?

 On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 4:28 AM, Samson Goddy <
 samsongo...@sugarlabs.org> wrote:

> Thank you all for the positive comments. But i am little sad that
> since wednesday, only one vote has been made. Where we have 7 SLOBs member
> in this community. I am pleading to other SLOBs member to come and vote, 
> so
> that i and Ibiam can have idea what to do next if this motion passes or
> not. Because if this motion pass, we will have to wait for SFC 30 days
> policy.
>
>
> Regards
> Samson Goddy
>
> On Thu, May 18, 2017 at 1:49 AM, Ignacio Rodríguez <
> igna...@sugarlabs.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi everyone
>>
>> It's +1 from me :)
>> I've seen some pictures on Facebok and I love what you both are
>> doing, awesome work, Samson and Ibiam.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Ignacio.-
>>
>> On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 8:27 PM, Avni Khatri <
>> a...@kidsoncomputers.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Same. Not a member of SLOB but agree it's a well written proposal. +1
>>>
>>> On May 17, 2017, at 7:23 PM, Caryl Bigenho 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> This is a well thought out proposal for a worthy project. I am not a
>>> member of the SLOB so I can't vote. But I do hope it is approved.
>>>
>>> Caryl
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On May 17, 2017, at 11:31 AM, Walter Bender 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Samson and Ibiam are seeking funds to cover part of the cost to
>>> attend the Scratch Conference in Bordeaux France in July to promote 
>>> Sugar.
>>> The detailed proposal is here [1].
>>>
>>> Motion: Sugar Labs agrees to cover up to US$2800 for expenses
>>> related to traveling to the Scratch2017BDX, 17th to 22nd of July, 2017 
>>> for
>>> Samson Goddy and Ibiam Chihurumnaya.
>>>
>>> [1]
>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/152VDfUcdcGOHOFBLT3lG15sUFpzBeuBCGiNAGCSOLj4/edit?usp=sharing
>>>
>>> regards.
>>>
>>> -walter
>>> --
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>>> http://www.sugarlabs.org
>>> 
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Re: [IAEP] Sugar Labs 2017 Budget

2017-02-25 Thread Tymon Radzik
Sugar Labs is by its statement *volunteer*-driven project. We are
volunteers. We work for the idea of the free and open software and not for
own financial profit.

I can't agree with the idea of monthly stipends (salaries) being paid to
some members.

Not only breaking something I considered to be a fundamental principle, it
is also dividing the community. Our funds deserve to be spent in more
orgnization-beneficial way.

Additionally, I don't want to accuse anyone personally, but current
situation in our discussion could meet the definition of *conflict of
interest* for some members involved...

Best,
Tymon


sob., 25 lut 2017 o 23:46 użytkownik Chris Leonard 
napisał:

> On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 2:21 PM, Laura Vargas 
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > 2017-02-24 13:51 GMT-05:00 Caryl Bigenho :
> >>
> >> Hello Again
> >>
> >>
> >
> > Hola Caryl,
> >>
> >> The "Badge" proposal is a totally inappropriate use of SL funds and
> could
> >> result in litigation and the possible end of SugarLabs.
> >>
> >>
> > Please do elaborate on this. We have already allocated stipends for
> active
> > members in the past. As I recall Chris Leonard had an 8 month stipend of
> US$
> > 1,000.
> >
> > What would be difference?
> >
>
> To clarify, I had negotiated a contract with Sugar Labs / SFC for a
> monthly stipend to support the Translation Manager position.  I did
> NOT submit a single invoice for that work (which I have been doing)
> and allowed the contract to lapse.  I have not received a dime from
> Sugar Labs funds in in the 10 years I have been volunteering and I
> have come to regret that I opened the door to the current effort to
> drain those funds into members pockets.
>
> I believe the funds (the majority of which come from the TripAdvisor
> grant obtained by Walter) should go to their intended purpose,
> supporting TurtleArt promotion and internationalization and
> localization efforts.  I understand that for legal reasons the funds
> are officially considered fungible and in a general pool, but I
> believe we should honor the original intent of the donor.
>
> cjl
>
> I now regret having opened the door to paid efforts
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Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Motion for Social Media Manager

2017-02-17 Thread Tymon Radzik
Thanks, of course i know that $100 won't be enough for ads, because
facebook charge around $5 a day (lowest rate). But the idea behind the 1k
is to make sure that the necessary things are carried out more like some
minor payments. Especially when you are using expensive ads on platform
like Twitter.


So don't you think we should in first place concentrate on the most
socially impactful thing = ads before we start giving salaries?

Also, I know many volunteers who get their work done without being paid a
cent, because they have developed self-discipline, motivation and they know
they're doing something good and beneficial. That's enough reward for them.
I am sure we have many such people in Sugar Labs. We don't need hiring. Let
us make a team and get it working.

Regardless of stated above, the ratio between advertisment budget and
propsed salary is definietely unacceptable.


I am speaking from experience, because i am one of the Social Media Manager
in my church, it practically cost more than that 1.1k proposed. I don't
want the community to see it as salary but funds for getting the necessary
things done in a month. I also mentioned giving back (funding) there are
also many ways to get funds from the media down to SL account but i would
have to ask SFC for guidance on how to know which funds to take.


Well, maybe I understand you wrong, because I understood it plainly as a
salary. What are these special expenses you are mentioning? If there really
are some, I think we can make a budget for these expenses and the SMM gets
reimburesed after showing receipts.

Getting funds from sponsors - great thing. Still, we can spend them in
other way than hiring. Let us make a team and get things done!


Like i mentioned few months back, it up to the Community to decide what
they want to make Sugar Labs grow further. Because i see us moving in a

Circle.


IMO making a paid SMM function won't break this circle (if it ever exists)
and have crucial impact on SL grow. To get SL growing we should first and
foremost concentrate on development, accessibility and making partnerships.

Best,
Tymon


sob., 18 lut 2017 o 01:07 użytkownik Samson Goddy <samsongo...@gmail.com>
napisał:

> Thanks, of course i know that $100 won't be enough for ads, because
> facebook charge around $5 a day (lowest rate). But the idea behind the 1k
> is to make sure that the necessary things are carried out more like some
> minor payments. Especially when you are using expensive ads on platform
> like Twitter.
>
> I am speaking from experience, because i am one of the Social Media
> Manager in my church, it practically cost more than that 1.1k proposed. I
> don't want the community to see it as salary but funds for getting the
> necessary things done in a month. I also mentioned giving back (funding)
> there are also many ways to get funds from the media down to SL account but
> i would have to ask SFC for guidance on how to know which funds to take.
>
> Like i mentioned few months back, it up to the Community to decide what
> they want to make Sugar Labs grow further. Because i see us moving in a
> Circle.
>
> Samson
>
>
> On 18 Feb 2017 12:48 a.m., "Tymon Radzik" <dwg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I am not SLOBs member, however I'd like to share my opinion with you.
>
> I have to agree with Ignacio, I am completely against making proposed
> "Social Media Manager" function to be paid.
>
> First and foremost, because Sugar Labs is *volunteer-driven *project. The
> idea is that members work for free supporting a good cause, the free
> software. We should hire only when some extraordinary skills / exceptional
> amount of time (like e.g. "full time educator") is neccessary to correctly
> perfom one's duties. Creating other permanent paid functions inside the
> community would cause somehow dangerous precedent. And even if, the
> "salary" should be adequte to funds spent on buying ads. $100 budget for
> advertising in comparsion with $1,000 salary is unacceptable for me.
>
> Also in my opinion we should set some requirements for candidates for this
> position, like: fluent knowledge of English and one another language,
> significant experience in different social media channels, ability to
> handle rough situations, responsibility, patience, PR skills. I am sure we
> can find someone who could meet them in the group of SL members/volunteers.
>
> Finally, I don't know whether having social media team with one
> coordinator would not be better and less time consuming. The idea in
> general needs further consideration.
>
> Best,
> Tymon
>
> sob., 18 lut 2017 o 00:15 użytkownik Samson Goddy <samsongo...@gmail.com>
> napisał:
>
>
>
> On 17 Feb 2017 10:01 p.m., "Ignacio Rodríguez" <igna...@sugarlabs.org>
> wrote:
>

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Motion for Social Media Manager

2017-02-17 Thread Tymon Radzik
I am not SLOBs member, however I'd like to share my opinion with you.

I have to agree with Ignacio, I am completely against making proposed
"Social Media Manager" function to be paid.

First and foremost, because Sugar Labs is *volunteer-driven *project. The
idea is that members work for free supporting a good cause, the free
software. We should hire only when some extraordinary skills / exceptional
amount of time (like e.g. "full time educator") is neccessary to correctly
perfom one's duties. Creating other permanent paid functions inside the
community would cause somehow dangerous precedent. And even if, the
"salary" should be adequte to funds spent on buying ads. $100 budget for
advertising in comparsion with $1,000 salary is unacceptable for me.

Also in my opinion we should set some requirements for candidates for this
position, like: fluent knowledge of English and one another language,
significant experience in different social media channels, ability to
handle rough situations, responsibility, patience, PR skills. I am sure we
can find someone who could meet them in the group of SL members/volunteers.

Finally, I don't know whether having social media team with one coordinator
would not be better and less time consuming. The idea in general needs
further consideration.

Best,
Tymon

sob., 18 lut 2017 o 00:15 użytkownik Samson Goddy 
napisał:

>
>
> On 17 Feb 2017 10:01 p.m., "Ignacio Rodríguez" 
> wrote:
>
> I love the idea except the part where someone get paid.
>
>
> Nobody like the idea of getting paid, but that how it is.
>
>
> We really need to focus on Social Media as described on the document,
> but we also need interesting content to share with people. What I
> mean, for much I like Sugar Labs I think we don't have enough
> content/news/current users..
>
>
> We don't have enough doesn't make us grow. And yes, you are right. But
> Social media should have the ability to be a content creator. Yes, users
> are one thing we are lacking that why the social media comes in to create
> awareness.
>
>
> > 1. Using myself as an example, Social Media manager is expected to
> online at least 10-15 hours a day.
> I don't get how can someone spend 15 hours dedicated to Sugar Labs
> only (talking about social media).
>
>
> I don't know about what you meant, but what i was trying to explain is to
> make sure the SMM knows when to post things try to get answers to questions
> that are been asked from the Social media world. Take it more like a live
> support, i have been doing it with my church which happens to be non-profit.
>
>
> I think we can do all of this by just wanting to == getting the work done.
>
>
> I totally disagree on that, people can volunteer their time if they want
> to support the SMM but it shouldn'tbe around that mindset.
>
>
> Sorry for my bad english :D.
>
>
> No problem
>
>
>
> On 2/17/17, Samson Goddy  wrote:
> > At the last meeting, i proposed a motion concerning funding the Social
> > Media role, there where lot of questions asked. So this is the updated
> > document, i think is something SL should really consider for the future
> of
> > Sugar Labs. Below are the links of Social Media that already exist.
> >
> >
> >  [1]  https://www.facebook.com/SugarLabsforall/
> >
> >  [2]   https://twitter.com/sugar_labs
> >
> >  [3]
> >
> https://www.linkedin.com/company/454719?trk=vsrp_companies_cluster_name=VSRPsearchId%3A1954828041487359711037%2CVSRPtargetId%3A454719%2CVSRPcmpt%3Acompanies_cluster
> >
> >  [4]https://www.instagram.com/sugarlabsforall/
> >
>
>
> --
> Ignacio Rodríguez
>
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Re: [IAEP] Google Summer of Code 2017

2017-01-22 Thread Tymon Radzik
In my opinion Sugar Labs participation in Google Summer of Code is really
important for our community and every year we get a lot of major
improvements to our projects, because of students working in this program.

I am definietely for making an application, I am also ready to help as a
mentor.

Best,
Tymon

niedz., 22 sty 2017 o 14:47 użytkownik Walter Bender <
walter.ben...@gmail.com> napisał:

> We are still wrapping up GCI and already Google has announced that the
> application window for Google Summer of Code [1] is open. Before I pursue
> the possibility of Sugar Labs participating, I wanted to get a sense of the
> opinion of the Sugar Labs community and the Sugar Labs oversight board.
> Should I apply on behalf of Sugar Labs? Anyone interested in either being a
> mentor or an administrator?
>
> regards.
>
> -walter
>
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> Sugar Labs
> http://www.sugarlabs.org
> 
> [1] https://developers.google.com/open-source/gsoc/
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Re: [IAEP] Google Code In wrap up

2017-01-17 Thread Tymon Radzik
Thank you very much for this year Google Code-in! It was awesome time in my
life, undoubtly beneficial for me and - as I believe - to entire Sugar Labs
community. We altogether did a lot of good for SL and I am really happy
because of it. I am also really happy I could in general take a part in
this contest.

I hope I will be able to work with you during upcoming GSoC :)

Best,
Tymon

//message reposted from another email as previous one seemed not to work

wt., 17 sty 2017 o 19:32 użytkownik Walter Bender 
napisał:

> Google Code In ended on Monday. We had 296 students participate and 422
> tasks completed. From the feedback I have gotten from the students it was a
> valuable experience for them and certainly from the point of view of Sugar
> Labs we got some great work done. We also had 36 mentors this year, which
> made it a much richer experience for the students and a much more
> manageable situation for me. And some help from some non-mentors too
> (tip-of-the-hat to Quozl).
>
> The mentors need to select our 5 finalists from the top ten contributors
> as well as our 2 grand-prize winners and 1 runner up.
>
> TymonR 32
> Cristian García 29
> Pablo Salomón Ortega 23
> Emily Ong Hui Qi 22
> Hrishi Patel 19
> Himanshu Sekhar Nayak 14
> Kachachan Chotitamnavee 13
> Hitesh Agarwal 12
> eohomegrownapps 11
> Matías Martínez 10
> Ayush Kumar 10
>
> Please email to me you thoughts so we can take them into consideration in
> the decision.
>
> I would also appreciate feedback on GCi, our process and our tasks. Would
> be good for making sure we do a better job next year.
>
> thanks all.
>
> -walter
>
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Re: [IAEP] Naming problem

2016-11-20 Thread Tymon Radzik
As far as I know our org's name is "Sugar Labs".

Best,
Tymon

W dniu poniedziałek, 21 listopada 2016 Samson Goddy <samsongo...@gmail.com>
napisał(a):

>
>
> Hello guys, as you all know i and Utkarsh are working our Google Graph
> Project, but the thing is that i don't know if we are getting our
> organization name wrong.. I want to verify.. Is it "SugarLabs", "Sugar
> Labs" or  "Sugarlabs". Because our website and wikipedia says Sugar Labs,
> while other shows "sugarlabs" which is the correct name. Because i intend
> to change everything starting from tomorrow?
>
>
> Samson Goddy
>


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Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Open issues

2015-06-26 Thread Tymon Radzik
Heh, the topic of website was already considered few months ago and we
couldn't reach consesus about final view - we had two versions: mine and
Sam's one. We probably need to rethink about expected effect and work on
already started project :)

pt., 26.06.2015 o 20:05 użytkownik samson goddy samsongo...@hotmail.com
napisał:

 Okay, i am done with my exams but i am will resuming Monday. I also i will
 work with the new survey, but the problem is that i can get through Caryl.
 Do anyone know her status?, if yes please fill me in.

 Best
 Samson Goddy

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 From: dan.tena...@mail.ru
 To: sebast...@fuentelibre.org
 Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 19:40:17 +0300
 CC: iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org; sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org
 Subject: Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Open issues


 Wednesday, June 24, 2015 8:48 PM -05:00 from Sebastian Silva 
 sebast...@fuentelibre.org:


 On 24/06/15 03:40, Sam P. wrote:
  IDK about the election but. Hopefully somebody who knows about that
  can respond.

 Here's a status report:

 I asked the board to appoint me election committee.

 Then the board decided we needed to have diversity in the committee.

 Now it's hard for Caryl, Samson and I to coincide, as one has been
 traveling, the other has exams, and I am in the process of relocating.

 I've setup a surveying system (a couple of months ago), that is pretty
 much ready for voting. I am still waiting for the committee to decide
 how many seats will be available and when to do the election.

 I was hoping to use the opportunity to make a wider survey in the
 community that could inform the direction for the Board. I will limit
 myself to be the technical person and make sure the surveying system
 works reliably, while I still wait for the other members of the
 committee to make decisions and try the surveying system.


 Thanks,

 After making you and Ms. Bigenho wait for several weeks to receive
 approval by the board to be added to the election committee and then seeing
 Mr. Parkinson receive overnight  approval, things were left somewhat
 unclear.

 Dan


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[IAEP] [Poll] Choosing better UI for sugarlabs.org

2015-02-28 Thread Tymon Radzik
Hi,
I've created new Sugar Labs website project and published it at
http://sugarlabs.org/~tymon . It is based on Jekyll, Bootstrap, CSS, some
plugins and JS. Its current design has been invented by my friend Piotr
Antosz (Boquete).

Other Sugar community member has created other UI for website which is
available at http://activities-2.sugarlabs.org/www-sugarlabs . It is based
on my orginal solution with changes to text, used libraries and page layout.

As we do not want on two separate projects, where authors' UI ideas are
totally different, we would like to know which one should be continued and
which abandoned. That's why we would like to ask you - Sugar community
members - for opinion which UI you like more and which one you want to see
in release page. As I try to be neutral I won't write here about advantages
and disadvantages of both projects.

Your opinion is really appericated!

Regards,
Tymon
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[IAEP] New SugarLabs.org website - looking for opinions/ideas!

2015-02-26 Thread Tymon Radzik
Hello,

last week I was working with Walter Bender on new SugarLabs website, as
current one is too old and doesn't have attractive UI. Results of our work
is here:

http://sugarlabs.org/~tymon/

New website is based on Bootstrap, with some plugins and self-written
jQuery code. It uses Jekyll, so it doesn't need PHP anymore.

We would like to ask you for opinions about this new website, for ideas
what we can change/improve/add/fix.

All suggestions are very welcome!

Best,
Tymon
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