[IAEP] non-existent link
This link seems to be non-existent: http://booki.flossmanuals.net/discovering-discovery/edit/ Is it right ? Thanks -- roberto ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] turtle help
On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 3:30 PM, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 8:56 AM, roberto robert...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I don't understand what the blocks next to forward means in the picture: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/images/1/1f/TASpirolateral1.png Thank you for your help. Now i try to use the code in the page: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activities/TurtleArt/Tutorials/You_be_the_Turtle to reproduce the pictures. But i can't. Maybe they're not meant to ... I simply get a small square I mean the blocks with the red minus and the green plus. Thanks. ps: is there a specific list for asking help about Turtle Blocks ? There is a built-in help. If you click on the ? button (or help toolbar) you get 'hover help' by putting the cursor over any block or button). -walter -- roberto ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org -- roberto ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] turtle help
On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 4:18 PM, roberto robert...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 3:30 PM, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 8:56 AM, roberto robert...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I don't understand what the blocks next to forward means in the picture: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/images/1/1f/TASpirolateral1.png Thank you for your help. Now i try to use the code in the page: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activities/TurtleArt/Tutorials/You_be_the_Turtle to reproduce the pictures. But i can't. Maybe they're not meant to ... I simply get a small square I solved the issue ! Thanks anyway I mean the blocks with the red minus and the green plus. Thanks. ps: is there a specific list for asking help about Turtle Blocks ? There is a built-in help. If you click on the ? button (or help toolbar) you get 'hover help' by putting the cursor over any block or button). -walter -- roberto ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org -- roberto -- roberto ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] turtle help
Hello, I don't understand what the blocks next to forward means in the picture: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/images/1/1f/TASpirolateral1.png I mean the blocks with the red minus and the green plus. Thanks. ps: is there a specific list for asking help about Turtle Blocks ? -- roberto ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] turtle help
On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 3:04 PM, Bert Freudenberg b...@freudenbergs.de wrote: It does nothing - it's only used as a connector. Otherwise the blocks would overlap. The plus makes it longer and the minus makes it shorter. So instead of two of these arrow blocks, the author could have used one longer block. ps: is there a specific list for asking help about Turtle Blocks ? I don't think so. thanks ! - Bert - -- roberto ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Sugar Digest 2011-04-24
On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 6:38 PM, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com wrote: ==Sugar Digest== 5. Cynthia Solomon has put her excellent book, co-authored by Margaret Minsky and Brian Harvey, on Logo programming, ''LogoWorks: Challenging Programs in Logo'', on line (See http://logoworks.wikispaces.com/). There is also a very nice preface by Marvin Minsky (http://logoworks.wikispaces.com/Preface). All the the examples can be run in Turtle Blocks. do you mean they can automatically be imported in Turtle Blocks as logo files or they have to be manually translated ? thanks -- roberto ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] africa labs
thank you very much, i'll check the wiki again and keep in touch with people directly involved there On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 6:14 AM, Edward Cherlin echer...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Oct 24, 2010 at 13:02, roberto robert...@gmail.com wrote: hello, do you know who is spreading sugar throughout Africa, at the moment (if any) ? I know what is on the deployments page. http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Deployments#Deployment_data Rwanda Nigeria Ethiopia Ghana South Africa and on the interactive map http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?f=qhl=engeocode=time=date=ttype=ie=UTF8cd=1om=1msa=0msid=107887635573341686661.00045a8f74844ef1681f8ll=7.710992,11.25spn=136.959067,316.40625z=2 including those listed above plus Mozambique Mali Kenya Cameroon Uganda i'd like to understand how it is going down there, especially as far as regards power supply issues Do you mean the XO battery packs, power consumption under various loads, battery life, recharging time, the wall plug, gang rechargers, mains power, renewable power,...? Many of these questions are also answered in the Wiki. thank you -- roberto ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- Edward Mokurai (默雷/धर्ममेघशब्दगर्ज/دھرممیگھشبدگر ج) Cherlin Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination. http://www.earthtreasury.org/ -- roberto ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] africa labs
hello, do you know who is spreading sugar throughout Africa, at the moment (if any) ? i'd like to understand how it is going down there, especially as far as regards power supply issues thank you -- roberto ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] map of schools
hello, is there a worldwide list of schools or (broadly speaking) education centers, associations etc using sugar for their activities with students ? it could be interesting for someone i may know moving abroad and willing to help sugar efforts somewhere thank you very much -- roberto ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [FIELDBACK] Etoys
On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 2:09 PM, Steve Thomas sthom...@gosargon.com wrote: Roberto, Here are some examples of teaching Mathematics with Etoys: thank you What grades and subject matter will you be teaching? subjects: math and physics grades: from age 10 to 18 -- roberto ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [FIELDBACK] Etoys
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 2:43 PM, Simon Schampijer si...@schampijer.de wrote: Hi, I am teaching on a regular basis in the Planetarium pilot in Berlin, Germany [1]. I have been using Etoys now for several weeks and here is some first feedback. First: The kids do like it a lot! I want to encourage everyone to include it in his curriculum. For example you can teach easily the concepts of the coordinate system with Etoys. You create an object and print out the X and Y values when moving it on the screen. Or you can use a joystick to alter the position of this object and use this method to deepen the coordinate system concept. thank you for sharing you experience; i have to choose between EToys, Turtle Art and Scratch for next year math courses; i like TA too much and i won't take it apart; but i need to understand well the differences between EToys and Scratch: their goals, their functionalities, pros/cons etc is there a comparative study available ? -- roberto ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Sugar Digest 2010-01-19
On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 4:54 PM, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com wrote: 9. Sascha's VNC-based sugar-emulator (which can be used instead of the often problematic Xephyr) is also available for testing. If you use sugar-jhbuild and have had problems with keyboard mappings or window-manager interactions, you may want to try the VNC version. where is the link to have a try of this VNC-based sugar-emulator ? thanks -- roberto ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] numbers editing in TA
On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 2:25 PM, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com wrote: Roberto, Could you please try using Turtle Art v81? You can get it from: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/addon/4027 done Also, could you test to see if you can input to a text block or is the problem only with number blocks? the problem is both with number blocks and text blocks as well Finally, could you please send me a copy of a log file from when Turtle Art fails? This would help me with debugging, e.g., ~/.sugar/default/logs/org.laptop.TurtleArtActivity-1.log ok, i launch sugar, then TA and then i plug-in a forward block which comes with a number block with a 100 value by default; then i click on the number block and try to modify the number but nothing happens; the number is fixed there; by-the-way, the code works perfectly, even when i use sample codes provided in the xo bundle now this is the log you requested: ~$ cat ./.sugar/default/logs/org.laptop.TurtleArtActivity-1.log 1261303915.548443 WARNING root: No gtk.AccelGroup in the top level window. 1261303915.563752 WARNING root: No gtk.AccelGroup in the top level window. /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/sugar/graphics/window.py:116: GtkWarning: gtk_container_remove: assertion `GTK_IS_TOOLBAR (container) || widget-parent == GTK_WIDGET (container)' failed self._vbox.remove(self.toolbox) 1261303915.569949 WARNING root: No gtk.AccelGroup in the top level window. 1261303915.572903 WARNING root: No gtk.AccelGroup in the top level window. 1261303915.576420 WARNING root: No gtk.AccelGroup in the top level window. 1261303915.579473 WARNING root: No gtk.AccelGroup in the top level window. 1261303915.582335 WARNING root: No gtk.AccelGroup in the top level window. 1261303915.586149 WARNING root: No gtk.AccelGroup in the top level window. 1261303915.589161 WARNING root: No gtk.AccelGroup in the top level window. 1261303915.591767 WARNING root: No gtk.AccelGroup in the top level window. 1261303915.594640 WARNING root: No gtk.AccelGroup in the top level window. 1261303915.599765 WARNING root: No gtk.AccelGroup in the top level window. /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/sugar/graphics/toolbutton.py:43: GtkWarning: gtk_accel_group_connect: assertion `accel_key 0' failed gtk.ACCEL_LOCKED | gtk.ACCEL_VISIBLE) 1261303915.611480 WARNING root: No gtk.AccelGroup in the top level window. 1261303915.656371 WARNING root: No gtk.AccelGroup in the top level window. ** (sugar-activity:19490): DEBUG: Got client ID 1073ef87db9be2018c1261303917165520194260001 ** (sugar-activity:19490): DEBUG: Setting initial properties ** (sugar-activity:19490): DEBUG: Received SaveYourself(SmSaveLocal, !Shutdown, SmInteractStyleNone, !Fast) in state idle ** (sugar-activity:19490): DEBUG: Sending SaveYourselfDone(True) for initial SaveYourself ** (sugar-activity:19490): DEBUG: Received SaveComplete message in state save-yourself-done -- roberto ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] numbers editing in TA
On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 1:10 PM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote: On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 11:56, roberto robert...@gmail.com wrote: hello, i try to change the value of numbers in their relative blocks and it is not possible; numbers are fixed at their default value, e.g. move forward 100 etc. when i click over the 100 nothing happens to the block i use Turtle Art under sugar-emulator Hi Roberto, can you give more details about how you are running sugar-emulator? Which distro, sugar version, etc? yes, sorry distro: debian 5.0 sugar-version: 0.82.9-1 (as provided by apt-get) TA version: decompressed from turtle_art-78.xo python version: 2.5 for other details, tell me Thanks, Tomeu thank you -- roberto ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- «Sugar Labs is anyone who participates in improving and using Sugar. What Sugar Labs does is determined by the participants.» - David Farning -- roberto ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] numbers editing in TA
On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 2:25 PM, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com wrote: Roberto, Could you please try using Turtle Art v81? You can get it from: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/addon/4027 should i manually rm -rf the old directory TurtleArt.activity created from the TA v78 bundle or it will be automatically overwritten when i unzip the new archive ? Also, could you test to see if you can input to a text block or is the problem only with number blocks? Finally, could you please send me a copy of a log file from when Turtle Art fails? This would help me with debugging, e.g., ~/.sugar/default/logs/org.laptop.TurtleArtActivity-1.log thanks. -- roberto ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] turtleArt and materials for education
On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 9:41 AM, Edward Cherlin echer...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 10:34, roberto robert...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, i am about to start writing worksheet about possible uses of turtleArt in math education. I have many. Euclidean geometry, analytic geometry, Galilean gravity, and Computer Science. What would you like? thank you, where can i find them ? it could be a starting place for me to develop new materials -- roberto ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] turtleArt and materials for education
On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 8:45 PM, Edward Cherlin echer...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry, I made a mistake. Walter asked me to mail him some files. OK, I'll send them to both of you. no problem at all thank you all the same -- roberto ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] turtleArt and materials for education
On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 9:41 AM, Edward Cherlin echer...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 10:34, roberto robert...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, i am about to start writing worksheet about possible uses of turtleArt in math education. I have many. Euclidean geometry, analytic geometry, Galilean gravity, and Computer Science. What would you like? mainly analytic geometry and galilean gravity, at the moment Sugar is available for several Linuces. up to know, i solved the problem launching sugar-emulator, installed automatically by apt on debian; hence i have not even to logout from the kde session and i can work on sugar like any other application a minor issue: i don't know how to stop the sugar-emulator, so i simply kill it from bash; the options shutdown or restart in the main panel under my personal icon will stop the Xephyr session or they will eventually shutdown the computer ?? (i'd better go the first option ... of course) http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Supported_systems You can install TA in any that don't come with it from http://activities.sugarlabs.org/ There are Turtle Art and Berkeley Logo packages for several Linuces also, and a version of Turtle Art in Etoys. in debian 5.0 only etoys is available, AFAIK but i am interested in two things up to now: 1. write math and programming contents in TA for my students 2. let them use TA and sugar via soas, which i think is the easiest way up to now to give sugar in their hands at the moment -- roberto ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] turtleArt and materials for education
Hello, i am about to start writing worksheet about possible uses of turtleArt in math education. I'd like to solve the following problems, otherwise i'll be able to do nothing :) - i've installed sugar on Debian 5.0 but, as you already know, a lot of activities are missing; turtleArt is one of this, so i think i cannot use it on my Debian (tell me if there is a workaround ...) - is it possible to use t.A. as a standalone application on Debian or, at least, GNU/Linux in general ? - if the two roads above are unfeasible, then i'll switch to soas thank you -- roberto ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] questions about 2 soas features
hello i'd like to know two things about soas-strawberry: 1. if it is possible to make a usb installation persistent, meaning that each time i reboot into that, all settings and activities are saved and reloaded; in this moment i do not know how to do it 2. i read in the floss manual for sugar that power options should be available under general options for the user but i did not find any of them in my installation; where can i find them thank you very much ps: is this the correct mailing list to post this kind of questions ? -- roberto ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] questions about 2 soas features
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 5:34 PM, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com wrote: A better list for Sugar on a Stick specific questions is: s...@lists.sugarlabs.org thank you then i'll post there -- roberto ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Sugar evaluation and impact
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 11:31 PM, Gerald Ardito gerald.ard...@gmail.com wrote: We began this project last year, and I would be happy to share the results if anyone is interested. Best, Gerald Ardito thank you, i am interested in your current research too good luck and keep updated -- roberto ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] installation problem
On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 12:15 AM, Dave Bauerdave.ba...@gmail.com wrote: What does windows report as the free space on the stick? if you mean before the installation: WS correctly reports the stick is totally empty ... thank you -- roberto ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] installation problem
On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 2:07 PM, Tomeu Vizosoto...@sugarlabs.org wrote: On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 16:19, robertorobert...@gmail.com wrote: hello everyone i am trying to install sugar-on-a-stick using the process suggested in: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick/Strawberry#Windows_Users i use Xp currently but when the live-usb creator tries to complete the procedure the following error is reported: .\tools\dd.exe if=/dev/zero of=E:\LiveOS\overlay-FEDORA-D07F-3503 count=1902 bs=1M rawwrite dd for windows version 0.5. Written by John Newbigin j...@it.swin.edu.au This program is covered by the GPL. See copying.txt for details Error writing file: 112 There is not enough space on the disk 1614+0 records in 1613+0 records out .\tools\syslinux.exe -m -a -d syslinux E: Reading boot sector: The parameter is incorrect. the guide suggests at least 1 GB and i am allocating 1,9 ! on the stick Hi Roberto, what happens if you allocate 1,5 GB? this is the error when i try to create the live usb with 1,5 GB: ### Downloading soas-strawberry.iso... Download failed: Requested Range Not Satisfiable You can try again to resume your download ### thank you again -- roberto ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] installation problem
hello everyone i am trying to install sugar-on-a-stick using the process suggested in: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick/Strawberry#Windows_Users i use Xp currently but when the live-usb creator tries to complete the procedure the following error is reported: .\tools\dd.exe if=/dev/zero of=E:\LiveOS\overlay-FEDORA-D07F-3503 count=1902 bs=1M rawwrite dd for windows version 0.5. Written by John Newbigin j...@it.swin.edu.au This program is covered by the GPL. See copying.txt for details Error writing file: 112 There is not enough space on the disk 1614+0 records in 1613+0 records out .\tools\syslinux.exe -m -a -d syslinux E: Reading boot sector: The parameter is incorrect. the guide suggests at least 1 GB and i am allocating 1,9 ! on the stick i cannot figure out the problem thank you in advance -- roberto ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
