Re: [IAEP] [SoaS] SoaS For Dummies?
Caryl; I just bought a G1G1 XO-1 on e-bay for testing. * I requested and downloaded a developer key * disabled security (very important!) * installed f11-xo-1-py (fedora 11 gnome and sugar) http://people.sugarlabs.org/bernie/olpc/f11-xo1-py/os140py.img http://people.sugarlabs.org/bernie/olpc/f11-xo1-py/os140py.crc This is great software and expands the capabilities of the OLPC XO-1 that bernie has developed for the Paraguay deployment (english and spanish) In the Gnome desktop terminal program on the XO-1: su yum install liveusb-creator liveusb-creator runs using 2 USB sticks: 1-) Target USB 2GB or larger 2-) USB with Blueberry/strawberry.iso's (downloaded on another PC) DO NOT DOWNLOAD soas.iso's to the XO-1 It has too small a working solid state HD to do this. This is very similar to running a 3 stick solution on a EeePC900 The XO-1 is much slower (50min for Blueberry soas) than the EeePC900; but it makes Soas Live USB's fine. (Plus they boot on the XO-1, just leave them inserted and do a shutdown and restart.) I just did this with the soas-2-blueberry.iso and it boots on the XO-1 plus on the EeePC900. (A EeePC900 livecd-iso-to-disk script created live usb will not boot on the XO-1) This could be a nice way to demonstrate sugar and the OLPC XO-1 while it makes and runs Soas Live USB's Tom Gilliard satellit Caryl Bigenho wrote: Thanks Tom for the confirmation! I suspected it might work like that, but not being a PC person, I wasn't sure. Sounds like a piece of cake. Caryl Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 16:08:38 -0700 From: satel...@bendbroadband.com To: cbige...@hotmail.com CC: s...@lists.sugarlabs.org; iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org; support-g...@laptop.org Subject: Re: [SoaS] SoaS For Dummies? Caryl Bigenho wrote: Hi Bert, Tom, and All, In case you are all wondering why I want to make this so easy, remember that while I am sort of a closet techie and could learn to do all these fancy work-arounds, I also have many years experience working with and training other educators who are very shy about using computers. For most of them it has to be very simple and work almost as a plug-'n-play. Even the boot-helper disk is a stretch, but I think it is doable with some very clear step-by-step instructions. It needs to be easy, and hopefully fun, with a high probability of success. Bert wrote: The iso file is a CD image. ISO is short for ISO 9660, a.k.a. CDFS (Compact Disc File System). It is a file system designed for CDs, which is read-only. So, I could save money and just use an image on a cd, but unfortunately the live CD will not boot on a MacBook. It needs a boot helper cd to run the usb stick version and there is only one optical drive on the machine. Probably about 50% of the teachers will have Macs. And, Tom suggested using Virtual Box: I really didn't want to use the Virtual Box again. I did that with an early version of Strawberry. I think the Virtual Box would be a deal breaker for a lot of teachers, whereas a usb version with the boot helper cd should be quite acceptable and easy to use. That is why I was hoping to get a usb version that could be used on both PCs and Macs. After all the advice I got from you folks, I ordered a refurbished eeePC 900 with Windows XP today. It will arrive Monday. I chose to get one with Windows XP because the Fedora Live USB Creator seems to be the easiest route to success... sort of SoaS for Dummies! So... according to the instructions at http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/SoaS_Blueberry_Instructions you download the blueberry image while in the LiveUSB Creator. Rather than downloading all over again, can I just plug in one of my usb sticks with SoaS (created on the Mac) and use it? Or could I download it to the eeePC once and use it there? What would be the easiest, most fool-proof way to do this? Caryl; YOU DO NOT NEED external CD to do this: * Copy-paste the Blueberry.isofile from the SugarCreation Kit CD onto an empty USB inserted in your MAC * transfer the .iso to your EeePC900 by inserting that USB into the EeePC900 and (drag - drop/copy-paste) the .iso to the XP Desktop. * Install Liveusb-creator for Windows: (See attached .png file) https://fedorahosted.org/liveusb-creator/ * Use Liveusb-creator for windows to make a soas USB with it. * Do not do a Download again. use left select box (use existing live CD/ Browse) to find the blueberry.iso on the XP Desktop * Insert a new target USB (2GB fat16) into EeePC900 ad see it appear in Target Device window * move slider to set persistence storage (Max it ) *Create Live USB: ) Very simple You can repeat this process for as many USB sticks that you want. Tom Gilliard satellit - note: If you get a message in graphical window :... reset mbr exit the running graphical liveusb-creator and
Re: [IAEP] [SoaS] SoaS For Dummies?
I am excited about trying this. I manage a deployment of 140 XO-1's in a school in Westchester County, New York and have really wanted to upgrade our software from the official build. How do I disable security? Many thanks. Gerald On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 8:28 AM, Thomas C Gilliard satel...@bendbroadband.com wrote: Caryl; I just bought a G1G1 XO-1 on e-bay for testing. * I requested and downloaded a developer key * disabled security (very important!) * installed f11-xo-1-py (fedora 11 gnome and sugar) http://people.sugarlabs.org/bernie/olpc/f11-xo1-py/os140py.img http://people.sugarlabs.org/bernie/olpc/f11-xo1-py/os140py.crc This is great software and expands the capabilities of the OLPC XO-1 that bernie has developed for the Paraguay deployment (english and spanish) In the Gnome desktop terminal program on the XO-1: su yum install liveusb-creator liveusb-creator runs using 2 USB sticks: 1-) Target USB 2GB or larger 2-) USB with Blueberry/strawberry.iso's (downloaded on another PC) DO NOT DOWNLOAD soas.iso's to the XO-1 It has too small a working solid state HD to do this. This is very similar to running a 3 stick solution on a EeePC900 The XO-1 is much slower (50min for Blueberry soas) than the EeePC900; but it makes Soas Live USB's fine. (Plus they boot on the XO-1, just leave them inserted and do a shutdown and restart.) I just did this with the soas-2-blueberry.iso and it boots on the XO-1 plus on the EeePC900. (A EeePC900 livecd-iso-to-disk script created live usb will not boot on the XO-1) This could be a nice way to demonstrate sugar and the OLPC XO-1 while it makes and runs Soas Live USB's Tom Gilliard satellit Caryl Bigenho wrote: Thanks Tom for the confirmation! I suspected it might work like that, but not being a PC person, I wasn't sure. Sounds like a piece of cake. Caryl Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 16:08:38 -0700 From: satel...@bendbroadband.com To: cbige...@hotmail.com CC: s...@lists.sugarlabs.org; iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org; support-g...@laptop.org Subject: Re: [SoaS] SoaS For Dummies? Caryl Bigenho wrote: Hi Bert, Tom, and All, In case you are all wondering why I want to make this so easy, remember that while I am sort of a closet techie and could learn to do all these fancy work-arounds, I also have many years experience working with and training other educators who are very shy about using computers. For most of them it has to be very simple and work almost as a plug-'n-play. Even the boot-helper disk is a stretch, but I think it is doable with some very clear step-by-step instructions. It needs to be easy, and hopefully fun, with a high probability of success. Bert wrote: The iso file is a CD image. ISO is short for ISO 9660, a.k.a. CDFS (Compact Disc File System). It is a file system designed for CDs, which is read-only. So, I could save money and just use an image on a cd, but unfortunately the live CD will not boot on a MacBook. It needs a boot helper cd to run the usb stick version and there is only one optical drive on the machine. Probably about 50% of the teachers will have Macs. And, Tom suggested using Virtual Box: I really didn't want to use the Virtual Box again. I did that with an early version of Strawberry. I think the Virtual Box would be a deal breaker for a lot of teachers, whereas a usb version with the boot helper cd should be quite acceptable and easy to use. That is why I was hoping to get a usb version that could be used on both PCs and Macs. After all the advice I got from you folks, I ordered a refurbished eeePC 900 with Windows XP today. It will arrive Monday. I chose to get one with Windows XP because the Fedora Live USB Creator seems to be the easiest route to success... sort of SoaS for Dummies! So... according to the instructions at http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/SoaS_Blueberry_Instructions you download the blueberry image while in the LiveUSB Creator. Rather than downloading all over again, can I just plug in one of my usb sticks with SoaS (created on the Mac) and use it? Or could I download it to the eeePC once and use it there? What would be the easiest, most fool-proof way to do this? Caryl; YOU DO NOT NEED external CD to do this: * Copy-paste the Blueberry.isofile from the SugarCreation Kit CD onto an empty USB inserted in your MAC * transfer the .iso to your EeePC900 by inserting that USB into the EeePC900 and (drag - drop/copy-paste) the .iso to the XP Desktop. * Install Liveusb-creator for Windows: (See attached .png file) https://fedorahosted.org/liveusb-creator/ * Use Liveusb-creator for windows to make a soas USB with it. * Do not do a Download again. use left select box (use existing live CD/ Browse) to find the blueberry.iso on the XP Desktop * Insert a new target USB (2GB fat16) into EeePC900 ad see it appear
Re: [IAEP] [SoaS] SoaS For Dummies?
On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 10:59 AM, Gerald Ardito gerald.ard...@gmail.com wrote: I am excited about trying this. I manage a deployment of 140 XO-1's in a school in Westchester County, New York and have really wanted to upgrade our software from the official build. How do I disable security? Check out this page: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activation_and_developer_keys#Getting_a_developer_key_for_your_running_XO_laptop You need to open Browse, click get developer key from the OLPC home page (if your build is new enough) or type file:///home/.devkey.html in the address bar. Then there are further instructions to disable security on that wiki page You need a key for every XO so this might be time consuming. Dave Many thanks. Gerald On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 8:28 AM, Thomas C Gilliard satel...@bendbroadband.com wrote: Caryl; I just bought a G1G1 XO-1 on e-bay for testing. * I requested and downloaded a developer key * disabled security (very important!) * installed f11-xo-1-py (fedora 11 gnome and sugar) http://people.sugarlabs.org/bernie/olpc/f11-xo1-py/os140py.img http://people.sugarlabs.org/bernie/olpc/f11-xo1-py/os140py.crc This is great software and expands the capabilities of the OLPC XO-1 that bernie has developed for the Paraguay deployment (english and spanish) In the Gnome desktop terminal program on the XO-1: su yum install liveusb-creator liveusb-creator runs using 2 USB sticks: 1-) Target USB 2GB or larger 2-) USB with Blueberry/strawberry.iso's (downloaded on another PC) DO NOT DOWNLOAD soas.iso's to the XO-1 It has too small a working solid state HD to do this. This is very similar to running a 3 stick solution on a EeePC900 The XO-1 is much slower (50min for Blueberry soas) than the EeePC900; but it makes Soas Live USB's fine. (Plus they boot on the XO-1, just leave them inserted and do a shutdown and restart.) I just did this with the soas-2-blueberry.iso and it boots on the XO-1 plus on the EeePC900. (A EeePC900 livecd-iso-to-disk script created live usb will not boot on the XO-1) This could be a nice way to demonstrate sugar and the OLPC XO-1 while it makes and runs Soas Live USB's Tom Gilliard satellit Caryl Bigenho wrote: Thanks Tom for the confirmation! I suspected it might work like that, but not being a PC person, I wasn't sure. Sounds like a piece of cake. Caryl Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 16:08:38 -0700 From: satel...@bendbroadband.com To: cbige...@hotmail.com CC: s...@lists.sugarlabs.org; iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org; support-g...@laptop.org Subject: Re: [SoaS] SoaS For Dummies? Caryl Bigenho wrote: Hi Bert, Tom, and All, In case you are all wondering why I want to make this so easy, remember that while I am sort of a closet techie and could learn to do all these fancy work-arounds, I also have many years experience working with and training other educators who are very shy about using computers. For most of them it has to be very simple and work almost as a plug-'n-play. Even the boot-helper disk is a stretch, but I think it is doable with some very clear step-by-step instructions. It needs to be easy, and hopefully fun, with a high probability of success. Bert wrote: The iso file is a CD image. ISO is short for ISO 9660, a.k.a. CDFS (Compact Disc File System). It is a file system designed for CDs, which is read-only. So, I could save money and just use an image on a cd, but unfortunately the live CD will not boot on a MacBook. It needs a boot helper cd to run the usb stick version and there is only one optical drive on the machine. Probably about 50% of the teachers will have Macs. And, Tom suggested using Virtual Box: I really didn't want to use the Virtual Box again. I did that with an early version of Strawberry. I think the Virtual Box would be a deal breaker for a lot of teachers, whereas a usb version with the boot helper cd should be quite acceptable and easy to use. That is why I was hoping to get a usb version that could be used on both PCs and Macs. After all the advice I got from you folks, I ordered a refurbished eeePC 900 with Windows XP today. It will arrive Monday. I chose to get one with Windows XP because the Fedora Live USB Creator seems to be the easiest route to success... sort of SoaS for Dummies! So... according to the instructions at http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/SoaS_Blueberry_Instructions you download the blueberry image while in the LiveUSB Creator. Rather than downloading all over again, can I just plug in one of my usb sticks with SoaS (created on the Mac) and use it? Or could I download it to the eeePC once and use it there? What would be the easiest, most fool-proof way to do this? Caryl; YOU DO NOT NEED external CD to do this: * Copy-paste the Blueberry.isofile from the SugarCreation Kit CD onto an empty USB inserted
Re: [IAEP] [SoaS] SoaS For Dummies?
Dave, Thanks. I will probably train my 20 Tech Team students to do this, which will empower them and help the process. Gerald On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 11:05 AM, Dave Bauer dave.ba...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 10:59 AM, Gerald Ardito gerald.ard...@gmail.com wrote: I am excited about trying this. I manage a deployment of 140 XO-1's in a school in Westchester County, New York and have really wanted to upgrade our software from the official build. How do I disable security? Check out this page: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activation_and_developer_keys#Getting_a_developer_key_for_your_running_XO_laptop You need to open Browse, click get developer key from the OLPC home page (if your build is new enough) or type file:///home/.devkey.html in the address bar. Then there are further instructions to disable security on that wiki page You need a key for every XO so this might be time consuming. Dave Many thanks. Gerald On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 8:28 AM, Thomas C Gilliard satel...@bendbroadband.com wrote: Caryl; I just bought a G1G1 XO-1 on e-bay for testing. * I requested and downloaded a developer key * disabled security (very important!) * installed f11-xo-1-py (fedora 11 gnome and sugar) http://people.sugarlabs.org/bernie/olpc/f11-xo1-py/os140py.img http://people.sugarlabs.org/bernie/olpc/f11-xo1-py/os140py.crc This is great software and expands the capabilities of the OLPC XO-1 that bernie has developed for the Paraguay deployment (english and spanish) In the Gnome desktop terminal program on the XO-1: su yum install liveusb-creator liveusb-creator runs using 2 USB sticks: 1-) Target USB 2GB or larger 2-) USB with Blueberry/strawberry.iso's (downloaded on another PC) DO NOT DOWNLOAD soas.iso's to the XO-1 It has too small a working solid state HD to do this. This is very similar to running a 3 stick solution on a EeePC900 The XO-1 is much slower (50min for Blueberry soas) than the EeePC900; but it makes Soas Live USB's fine. (Plus they boot on the XO-1, just leave them inserted and do a shutdown and restart.) I just did this with the soas-2-blueberry.iso and it boots on the XO-1 plus on the EeePC900. (A EeePC900 livecd-iso-to-disk script created live usb will not boot on the XO-1) This could be a nice way to demonstrate sugar and the OLPC XO-1 while it makes and runs Soas Live USB's Tom Gilliard satellit Caryl Bigenho wrote: Thanks Tom for the confirmation! I suspected it might work like that, but not being a PC person, I wasn't sure. Sounds like a piece of cake. Caryl Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 16:08:38 -0700 From: satel...@bendbroadband.com To: cbige...@hotmail.com CC: s...@lists.sugarlabs.org; iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org; support-g...@laptop.org Subject: Re: [SoaS] SoaS For Dummies? Caryl Bigenho wrote: Hi Bert, Tom, and All, In case you are all wondering why I want to make this so easy, remember that while I am sort of a closet techie and could learn to do all these fancy work-arounds, I also have many years experience working with and training other educators who are very shy about using computers. For most of them it has to be very simple and work almost as a plug-'n-play. Even the boot-helper disk is a stretch, but I think it is doable with some very clear step-by-step instructions. It needs to be easy, and hopefully fun, with a high probability of success. Bert wrote: The iso file is a CD image. ISO is short for ISO 9660, a.k.a. CDFS (Compact Disc File System). It is a file system designed for CDs, which is read-only. So, I could save money and just use an image on a cd, but unfortunately the live CD will not boot on a MacBook. It needs a boot helper cd to run the usb stick version and there is only one optical drive on the machine. Probably about 50% of the teachers will have Macs. And, Tom suggested using Virtual Box: I really didn't want to use the Virtual Box again. I did that with an early version of Strawberry. I think the Virtual Box would be a deal breaker for a lot of teachers, whereas a usb version with the boot helper cd should be quite acceptable and easy to use. That is why I was hoping to get a usb version that could be used on both PCs and Macs. After all the advice I got from you folks, I ordered a refurbished eeePC 900 with Windows XP today. It will arrive Monday. I chose to get one with Windows XP because the Fedora Live USB Creator seems to be the easiest route to success... sort of SoaS for Dummies! So... according to the instructions at http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/SoaS_Blueberry_Instructions you download the blueberry image while in the LiveUSB Creator. Rather than downloading all over again, can I just plug
Re: [IAEP] [SoaS] SoaS For Dummies?
Look at: IAEP Digest, Vol 25 Issue 23 Message #1 Plus http://wiki.laptop.org/go/F11_for_XO-1#Installation_instructions http://www.olpcnews.com/forum/index.php?topic=4768.0 ( part copied below:) Tom Gilliard satellit April 15, 2010, 10:46:40 PM HOWTO: Install To install this awesome OS image, you will need to do several things. Step One. Get a developer key. http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activation_and_developer_keys#Getting_a_developer_key_for_your_running_XO_laptop Step Two. Copy all important files to a USB stick or SD card. Step Three. On another computer, download two files onto a USB stick or SD card. Place these files in the root directory of the card. http://people.sugarlabs.org/bernie/olpc/f11-xo1-py/os140py.img http://people.sugarlabs.org/bernie/olpc/f11-xo1-py/os140py.crc Step Four. Boot your XO. Hold down Escape while booting. This is the key on the upper left of the keyboard. Step 5. You are now hopefully at an "OpenFirmware" prompt. Type in "disable-security" and press Enter. Let it do what it wants to do. Step 6. Move the SD card or USB stick with the files you downloaded into the XO. Reboot while holding down Escape, to get to another OpenFirmware prompt. Step 7. If the files were downloaded onto a USB stick: type "probe-usb", press Enter, then type "copy-nand usb:\os140py.img" and press Enter. Step 8. If the files were downloaded onto a SD card: Type "copy-nand sd:\os140py.img" and press Enter. Step 9. Reboot. Step 10. Step 11. Profit! Whoops, OLPC won't let us profit. Oh well... Step 12. Enjoy the new OS image! Dave Bauer wrote: On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 10:59 AM, Gerald Ardito gerald.ard...@gmail.com wrote: I am excited about trying this. I manage a deployment of 140 XO-1's in a school in Westchester County, New York and have really wanted to upgrade our software from the official build. How do I "disable security?" Check out this page: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activation_and_developer_keys#Getting_a_developer_key_for_your_running_XO_laptop You need to open Browse, click "get developer key" from the OLPC home page (if your build is new enough) or type file:///home/.devkey.html in the address bar. Then there are further instructions to disable security on that wiki page You need a key for every XO so this might be time consuming. Dave Many thanks. Gerald On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 8:28 AM, Thomas C Gilliard satel...@bendbroadband.com wrote: Caryl; I just bought a G1G1 XO-1 on e-bay for testing. * I requested and downloaded a developer key * disabled security (very important!) * installed f11-xo-1-py (fedora 11 gnome and sugar) http://people.sugarlabs.org/bernie/olpc/f11-xo1-py/os140py.img http://people.sugarlabs.org/bernie/olpc/f11-xo1-py/os140py.crc This is great software and expands the capabilities of the OLPC XO-1 that bernie has developed for the Paraguay deployment (english and spanish) In the Gnome desktop terminal program on the XO-1: su yum install liveusb-creator liveusb-creator runs using 2 USB sticks: 1-) Target USB 2GB or larger 2-) USB with Blueberry/strawberry.iso's (downloaded on another PC) DO NOT DOWNLOAD soas.iso's to the XO-1 It has too small a working solid state HD to do this. This is very similar to running a 3 stick solution on a EeePC900 The XO-1 is much slower (50min for Blueberry soas) than the EeePC900; but it makes Soas Live USB's fine. (Plus they boot on the XO-1, just leave them inserted and do a shutdown and restart.) I just did this with the soas-2-blueberry.iso and it boots on the XO-1 plus on the EeePC900. (A EeePC900 livecd-iso-to-disk script created live usb will not boot on the XO-1) This could be a nice way to demonstrate sugar and the OLPC XO-1 while it makes and runs Soas Live USB's Tom Gilliard satellit Caryl Bigenho wrote: Thanks Tom for the confirmation! I suspected it might work like that, but not being a PC person, I wasn't sure. Sounds like a "piece of cake." Caryl Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 16:08:38 -0700 From: satel...@bendbroadband.com To: cbige...@hotmail.com CC: s...@lists.sugarlabs.org; iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org; support-g...@laptop.org Subject: Re: [SoaS] "SoaS For Dummies?" Caryl Bigenho wrote: Hi Bert, Tom, and All, In case you are all wondering why I want to make this so easy, remember that while I am sort of a "closet techie" and could learn to do all these fancy work-arounds, I also have many years experience working with and training other educators who are very shy about using computers. For most of them it has to be very simple and work almost as a "plug-'n-play." Even the boot-helper disk is a stretch, but I think it is doable with some very clear step-by-step instructions. It needs to be easy, and hopefully fun, with a high probability of success. Bert
Re: [IAEP] [SoaS] SoaS For Dummies?
Caryl Bigenho wrote: Hi Bert, Tom, and All, In case you are all wondering why I want to make this so easy, remember that while I am sort of a closet techie and could learn to do all these fancy work-arounds, I also have many years experience working with and training other educators who are very shy about using computers. For most of them it has to be very simple and work almost as a plug-'n-play. Even the boot-helper disk is a stretch, but I think it is doable with some very clear step-by-step instructions. It needs to be easy, and hopefully fun, with a high probability of success. Bert wrote: The iso file is a CD image. ISO is short for ISO 9660, a.k.a. CDFS (Compact Disc File System). It is a file system designed for CDs, which is read-only. So, I could save money and just use an image on a cd, but unfortunately the live CD will not boot on a MacBook. It needs a boot helper cd to run the usb stick version and there is only one optical drive on the machine. Probably about 50% of the teachers will have Macs. And, Tom suggested using Virtual Box: I really didn't want to use the Virtual Box again. I did that with an early version of Strawberry. I think the Virtual Box would be a deal breaker for a lot of teachers, whereas a usb version with the boot helper cd should be quite acceptable and easy to use. That is why I was hoping to get a usb version that could be used on both PCs and Macs. After all the advice I got from you folks, I ordered a refurbished eeePC 900 with Windows XP today. It will arrive Monday. I chose to get one with Windows XP because the Fedora Live USB Creator seems to be the easiest route to success... sort of SoaS for Dummies! So... according to the instructions at http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/SoaS_Blueberry_Instructions you download the blueberry image while in the LiveUSB Creator. Rather than downloading all over again, can I just plug in one of my usb sticks with SoaS (created on the Mac) and use it? Or could I download it to the eeePC once and use it there? What would be the easiest, most fool-proof way to do this? Caryl; YOU DO NOT NEED external CD to do this: * Copy-paste the Blueberry.isofile from the SugarCreation Kit CD onto an empty USB inserted in your MAC * transfer the .iso to your EeePC900 by inserting that USB into the EeePC900 and (drag - drop/copy-paste) the .iso to the XP Desktop. * Install Liveusb-creator for Windows: (See attached .png file) https://fedorahosted.org/liveusb-creator/ * Use Liveusb-creator for windows to make a soas USB with it. * Do not do a Download again. use left select box (use existing live CD/ Browse) to find the blueberry.iso on the XP Desktop * Insert a new target USB (2GB fat16) into EeePC900 ad see it appear in Target Device window * move slider to set persistence storage (Max it ) *Create Live USB: ) Very simple You can repeat this process for as many USB sticks that you want. Tom Gilliard satellit - note: If you get a message in graphical window :... reset mbr exit the running graphical liveusb-creator and start windows terminal enter liveusb-creator --reset-mbr it will restart graphical liveusb-creator using this extra command. I do plan to purchase an optical drive as well, so I could put the image on cd. I could probably pick one up tomorrow or Sunday at Fry's so I would have it when the eeePC arrives Monday. If the CD/DVD will work for accessing the files in the LiveUSB Creator process, I could make a mini-version of Tom's Soas Creation Kit with just a few files and hand it out at InfoTech. I would probably just include the blueberry iso file, the boot-helper file, and maybe some instructions in a text file. What else would be good to include on this SoaS For Dummies disk? Remember KISS. Thanks for helping get this ready for the Big Time! Caryl ___ SoaS mailing list s...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas inline: liveusb-creator.png___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [SoaS] SoaS For Dummies?
Caryl; look at my 3 stick setup with EeePC900 for using liveusb-creator installed onto the running blueberry USB http://people.sugarlabs.org/Tgillard/f13-Installer-USB2.JPG To Boot EeePC900 hit power on button hit esc repeatedly while starting select USB to boot from from menu ==To install== in terminal of running USB su - yum install liveusb-creator when install finishes still in terminal:liveusb-creator --reset-mbr graphical program starts KEY in attached jpg: EeePC900 running liveusb-creator left usb has iso (transferred from MAC) top right USB is target USB bottom right USB is Booted Blueberry USB Quite simple actually... Tom Gilliard satellit Caryl Bigenho wrote: Hi Bert, Tom, and All, In case you are all wondering why I want to make this so easy, remember that while I am sort of a closet techie and could learn to do all these fancy work-arounds, I also have many years experience working with and training other educators who are very shy about using computers. For most of them it has to be very simple and work almost as a plug-'n-play. Even the boot-helper disk is a stretch, but I think it is doable with some very clear step-by-step instructions. It needs to be easy, and hopefully fun, with a high probability of success. Bert wrote: The iso file is a CD image. ISO is short for ISO 9660, a.k.a. CDFS (Compact Disc File System). It is a file system designed for CDs, which is read-only. So, I could save money and just use an image on a cd, but unfortunately the live CD will not boot on a MacBook. It needs a boot helper cd to run the usb stick version and there is only one optical drive on the machine. Probably about 50% of the teachers will have Macs. And, Tom suggested using Virtual Box: I really didn't want to use the Virtual Box again. I did that with an early version of Strawberry. I think the Virtual Box would be a deal breaker for a lot of teachers, whereas a usb version with the boot helper cd should be quite acceptable and easy to use. That is why I was hoping to get a usb version that could be used on both PCs and Macs. After all the advice I got from you folks, I ordered a refurbished eeePC 900 with Windows XP today. It will arrive Monday. I chose to get one with Windows XP because the Fedora Live USB Creator seems to be the easiest route to success... sort of SoaS for Dummies! So... according to the instructions at http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/SoaS_Blueberry_Instructions you download the blueberry image while in the LiveUSB Creator. Rather than downloading all over again, can I just plug in one of my usb sticks with SoaS (created on the Mac) and use it? Or could I download it to the eeePC once and use it there? What would be the easiest, most fool-proof way to do this? I do plan to purchase an optical drive as well, so I could put the image on cd. I could probably pick one up tomorrow or Sunday at Fry's so I would have it when the eeePC arrives Monday. If the CD/DVD will work for accessing the files in the LiveUSB Creator process, I could make a mini-version of Tom's Soas Creation Kit with just a few files and hand it out at InfoTech. I would probably just include the blueberry iso file, the boot-helper file, and maybe some instructions in a text file. What else would be good to include on this SoaS For Dummies disk? Remember KISS. Thanks for helping get this ready for the Big Time! Caryl ___ SoaS mailing list s...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [SoaS] SoaS For Dummies?
Thanks Tom for the confirmation! I suspected it might work like that, but not being a PC person, I wasn't sure. Sounds like a piece of cake. Caryl Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 16:08:38 -0700 From: satel...@bendbroadband.com To: cbige...@hotmail.com CC: s...@lists.sugarlabs.org; iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org; support-g...@laptop.org Subject: Re: [SoaS] SoaS For Dummies? Caryl Bigenho wrote: Hi Bert, Tom, and All, In case you are all wondering why I want to make this so easy, remember that while I am sort of a closet techie and could learn to do all these fancy work-arounds, I also have many years experience working with and training other educators who are very shy about using computers. For most of them it has to be very simple and work almost as a plug-'n-play. Even the boot-helper disk is a stretch, but I think it is doable with some very clear step-by-step instructions. It needs to be easy, and hopefully fun, with a high probability of success. Bert wrote: The iso file is a CD image. ISO is short for ISO 9660, a.k.a. CDFS (Compact Disc File System). It is a file system designed for CDs, which is read-only. So, I could save money and just use an image on a cd, but unfortunately the live CD will not boot on a MacBook. It needs a boot helper cd to run the usb stick version and there is only one optical drive on the machine. Probably about 50% of the teachers will have Macs. And, Tom suggested using Virtual Box: I really didn't want to use the Virtual Box again. I did that with an early version of Strawberry. I think the Virtual Box would be a deal breaker for a lot of teachers, whereas a usb version with the boot helper cd should be quite acceptable and easy to use. That is why I was hoping to get a usb version that could be used on both PCs and Macs. After all the advice I got from you folks, I ordered a refurbished eeePC 900 with Windows XP today. It will arrive Monday. I chose to get one with Windows XP because the Fedora Live USB Creator seems to be the easiest route to success... sort of SoaS for Dummies! So... according to the instructions at http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/SoaS_Blueberry_Instructions you download the blueberry image while in the LiveUSB Creator. Rather than downloading all over again, can I just plug in one of my usb sticks with SoaS (created on the Mac) and use it? Or could I download it to the eeePC once and use it there? What would be the easiest, most fool-proof way to do this? Caryl; YOU DO NOT NEED external CD to do this: * Copy-paste the Blueberry.isofile from the SugarCreation Kit CD onto an empty USB inserted in your MAC * transfer the .iso to your EeePC900 by inserting that USB into the EeePC900 and (drag - drop/copy-paste) the .iso to the XP Desktop. * Install Liveusb-creator for Windows: (See attached .png file) https://fedorahosted.org/liveusb-creator/ * Use Liveusb-creator for windows to make a soas USB with it. * Do not do a Download again. use left select box (use existing live CD/ Browse) to find the blueberry.iso on the XP Desktop * Insert a new target USB (2GB fat16) into EeePC900 ad see it appear in Target Device window * move slider to set persistence storage (Max it ) *Create Live USB: ) Very simple You can repeat this process for as many USB sticks that you want. Tom Gilliard satellit - note: If you get a message in graphical window :... reset mbr exit the running graphical liveusb-creator and start windows terminal enter liveusb-creator --reset-mbr it will restart graphical liveusb-creator using this extra command. I do plan to purchase an optical drive as well, so I could put the image on cd. I could probably pick one up tomorrow or Sunday at Fry's so I would have it when the eeePC arrives Monday. If the CD/DVD will work for accessing the files in the LiveUSB Creator process, I could make a mini-version of Tom's Soas Creation Kit with just a few files and hand it out at InfoTech. I would probably just include the blueberry iso file, the boot-helper file, and maybe some instructions in a text file. What else would be good to include on this SoaS For Dummies disk? Remember KISS. Thanks for helping get this ready for the Big Time! Caryl ___ SoaS mailing list s...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
