Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] EduJAM day 2 Tour of Uruguay
On Mon, May 02, 2011 at 04:24:53PM -0300, David Farning wrote: From a tech point of view, the big question have been: 4. questions about why touch pad behavior has changed in the latest release with out giving teachers a heads up. I don't know what release they are using, or were using. I don't know if they mean XO-1.5 or XO-1. XO-1.5 touchpad behaviour was changed; tap to click was disabled or enabled. Default varied by release, and the default should be configurable. XO-1 touchpad behaviour was changed. Latest OLPC release on XO-1 is 10.1.3, which has no touchpad change compared to 10.1.2, so I presume they were on 8.2.1 or a derivative previously? Two XO-1 changes may be relevant: 1. the enabling of automatic power management from 8.2.1 to 10.1.3, which causes touchpad to be momentarily unresponsive when the laptop is suspended; this is in the release notes [1], so OLPC did include a heads up, 2. the revised kernel driver for XO-1 touchpad [2], which changes the behaviour somewhat; this is not in the release notes. It went in with 10.1.1. Please encourage them to be involved in testing of development builds, so that they can provide feedback early. [1] http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Release_notes/10.1.3#XO-1_Automatic_power_management_issues [2] http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Touchpad_driver_changes -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] EduJAM day 2 Tour of Uruguay
-Original Message- From: qu...@us.netrek.org [mailto:qu...@us.netrek.org] On Behalf Of James Cameron Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 4:47 AM To: David Farning Cc: 'IAEP'; 'Sugar Devel' Subject: Re: [Sugar-devel] EduJAM day 2 Tour of Uruguay On Mon, May 02, 2011 at 04:24:53PM -0300, David Farning wrote: From a tech point of view, the big question have been: 4. questions about why touch pad behavior has changed in the latest release with out giving teachers a heads up. I don't know what release they are using, or were using. I don't know if they mean XO-1.5 or XO-1. XO-1.5 touchpad behaviour was changed; tap to click was disabled or enabled. Default varied by release, and the default should be configurable. XO-1 touchpad behaviour was changed. Latest OLPC release on XO-1 is 10.1.3, which has no touchpad change compared to 10.1.2, so I presume they were on 8.2.1 or a derivative previously? Two XO-1 changes may be relevant: 1. the enabling of automatic power management from 8.2.1 to 10.1.3, which causes touchpad to be momentarily unresponsive when the laptop is suspended; this is in the release notes [1], so OLPC did include a heads up, 2. the revised kernel driver for XO-1 touchpad [2], which changes the behaviour somewhat; this is not in the release notes. It went in with 10.1.1. Please encourage them to be involved in testing of development builds, so that they can provide feedback early. +1. And we should also consider this is a custom spin for UY. So effective QA will involve: 1. Sugar. 2. OLPC. 3. AC -- if they chose. 4. In country development staff. 5. Users. From what I can see, the idea that the benefits of working together is starting to outweigh the costs for many of the participants and organizations :) david [1] http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Release_notes/10.1.3#XO- 1_Automatic_power_management_issues [2] http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Touchpad_driver_changes -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] EduJAM day 2 Tour of Uruguay
/James Cameron wrote: XO-1 touchpad behaviour was changed. / On the Xo 1.0 of Plan ceibal, With the new versions of Sugar (0.88) http://200.40.200.100/Portal.Base/Web/VerContenido.aspx?GUID=39ff79c8-1368-4c2e-8e70-167b3373b933ID=203132 they disabled the tap-to-click on the touchpad. The Tap-to click worked ok with previous image. (uy802c) --- On the XO 1.5 is different because they came from factory without the tap-to-click , so there's no complain about that, it never existed. (I think that there are some drivers problems) But on the XO 1.0 the feature of tap-to-click was working ok, and now it is disabled (with the new image Dextrose, os1bdxuy.img http://200.40.200.100/Portal.Base/Web/VerContenido.aspx?GUID=39ff79c8-1368-4c2e-8e70-167b3373b933ID=203132, ), I don't Know Why. Paolo Benini RAP-CEIBAL Montevideo ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] EduJAM day 2 Tour of Uruguay
On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 12:24 PM, nanon...@mediagala.com wrote: * James Cameron wrote: XO-1 touchpad behaviour was changed. * On the Xo 1.0 of Plan ceibal, With the new versions of Sugar (0.88)http://200.40.200.100/Portal.Base/Web/VerContenido.aspx?GUID=39ff79c8-1368-4c2e-8e70-167b3373b933ID=203132they disabled the tap-to-click on the touchpad. The Tap-to click worked ok with previous image. (uy802c) Maybe we disabled it unintentionally. However, I flashed a machine with uy802c and tap-to-click doesn't work. Maybe depend on the version of the XO hardware. Are you sure that was on the 802c image? Thanks. Daniel --- On the XO 1.5 is different because they came from factory without the tap-to-click , so there's no complain about that, it never existed. (I think that there are some drivers problems) But on the XO 1.0 the feature of tap-to-click was working ok, and now it is disabled (with the new image Dextrose, os1bdxuy.imghttp://200.40.200.100/Portal.Base/Web/VerContenido.aspx?GUID=39ff79c8-1368-4c2e-8e70-167b3373b933ID=203132, ), I don't Know Why. Paolo Benini RAP-CEIBAL Montevideo ___ Sugar-devel mailing list sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel -- Ing. Daniel Castelo Plan Ceibal - Área Técnica Avda. Italia 6201 Montevideo - Uruguay. Tel.: 2 601 57 73 Interno 2228 E-mail : dcast...@plan.ceibal.edu.uy ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] EduJAM day 2 Tour of Uruguay
I would not personally know the history, but tap-to-click is intentionally disabled for the Synaptics touchpad in newer (10.1.x?) OLPC software builds for XOs. You should be able to edit /etc/modprobe.d/olpc-psmouse.conf to re-enable it: http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/10119 However, be aware that there is another brand of touchpad (indistinguishable from the outside of an XO except in software) which may be present on some XO-1.5s, and we currently do not disable tap-to-click on these: http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/10528 I would not know how often this other brand has been used, or if anyone has them in XOs out in the field. On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 2:10 PM, Daniel Castelo dcast...@plan.ceibal.edu.uywrote: On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 12:24 PM, nanon...@mediagala.com wrote: * James Cameron wrote: XO-1 touchpad behaviour was changed. * On the Xo 1.0 of Plan ceibal, With the new versions of Sugar (0.88)http://200.40.200.100/Portal.Base/Web/VerContenido.aspx?GUID=39ff79c8-1368-4c2e-8e70-167b3373b933ID=203132they disabled the tap-to-click on the touchpad. The Tap-to click worked ok with previous image. (uy802c) Maybe we disabled it unintentionally. However, I flashed a machine with uy802c and tap-to-click doesn't work. Maybe depend on the version of the XO hardware. Are you sure that was on the 802c image? Thanks. Daniel --- On the XO 1.5 is different because they came from factory without the tap-to-click , so there's no complain about that, it never existed. (I think that there are some drivers problems) But on the XO 1.0 the feature of tap-to-click was working ok, and now it is disabled (with the new image Dextrose, os1bdxuy.imghttp://200.40.200.100/Portal.Base/Web/VerContenido.aspx?GUID=39ff79c8-1368-4c2e-8e70-167b3373b933ID=203132, ), I don't Know Why. Paolo Benini RAP-CEIBAL Montevideo ___ Sugar-devel mailing list sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel -- Ing. Daniel Castelo Plan Ceibal - Área Técnica Avda. Italia 6201 Montevideo - Uruguay. Tel.: 2 601 57 73 Interno 2228 E-mail : dcast...@plan.ceibal.edu.uy ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
