Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] 2 idea's to train people dyslexia
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 09:56, Marten Vijn i...@martenvijn.nl wrote: On Wed, 2009-09-16 at 09:34 +0200, Marten Vijn wrote: Hi, I am not a dyslexia expert, maybe a bit more that average. idea 1 Today I read in a newspaper that it helps people to let them hear what they (words not the characters). __^ type* *Actually I do knwo a lot about dyslexia, like that is really annoying not being capable to write normal emails without make errors. No patches seem to be availible. Training young kids _in time_ prevents a lot frustration, dropouts from school and waste of very creative talented kids. My son would have a 50% change of being born with it too. So having having a good educational toolset seems important. Wonder if we could involve on this an existing dyslexia organization? Regards, Tomeu cheers Marten -- Marten Vijn linux 2.0.18 OpenBSD 3.6 FreeBSD 4.6 http://martenvijn.nl http://opencommunitycamp.org http://wifisoft.org ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- «Sugar Labs is anyone who participates in improving and using Sugar. What Sugar Labs does is determined by the participants.» - David Farning ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] 2 idea's to train people dyslexia
On Mon, 2009-09-21 at 12:17 +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 09:56, Marten Vijn i...@martenvijn.nl wrote: On Wed, 2009-09-16 at 09:34 +0200, Marten Vijn wrote: Hi, I am not a dyslexia expert, maybe a bit more that average. idea 1 Today I read in a newspaper that it helps people to let them hear what they (words not the characters). __^ type* *Actually I do knwo a lot about dyslexia, like that is really annoying not being capable to write normal emails without make errors. No patches seem to be availible. Training young kids _in time_ prevents a lot frustration, dropouts from school and waste of very creative talented kids. My son would have a 50% change of being born with it too. So having having a good educational toolset seems important. Wonder if we could involve on this an existing dyslexia organization? good idea. http://books.google.nl/books?id=pLvC1kKUWTkCpg=PA47lpg=PA47dq=audio +feedback +dyslexiasource=blots=iMn_I_8efusig=CQhPMzM15_twYh43WTSbKP6qbmMhl=nlei=DlO3Sru8KI_E-QavmsXcCQsa=Xoi=book_resultct=resultresnum=5#v=onepageq=f=false http://www.springerlink.com/content/r33873h07n78j722/ mmm, I 'll keep it on my list for dutch researchers. Not If I will to sucseed. I never know who am talking to tomorrow :) cheers, Marten Regards, Tomeu cheers Marten -- Marten Vijn linux 2.0.18 OpenBSD 3.6 FreeBSD 4.6 http://martenvijn.nl http://opencommunitycamp.org http://wifisoft.org ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- Marten Vijn linux 2.0.18 OpenBSD 3.6 FreeBSD 4.6 http://martenvijn.nl http://opencommunitycamp.org http://wifisoft.org ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] 2 idea's to train people dyslexia
Marten, I would like to introduce you to Marilyn Hagle (CCed). She is active at the intersection of dyslexia and technology based education tools. She has recently written a grant to set up a pilot for researching and using sugar as a platform for helping kids overcome or adapt to their dyslexia. david On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 5:37 AM, Marten Vijn i...@martenvijn.nl wrote: On Mon, 2009-09-21 at 12:17 +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 09:56, Marten Vijn i...@martenvijn.nl wrote: On Wed, 2009-09-16 at 09:34 +0200, Marten Vijn wrote: Hi, I am not a dyslexia expert, maybe a bit more that average. idea 1 Today I read in a newspaper that it helps people to let them hear what they (words not the characters). __^ type* *Actually I do knwo a lot about dyslexia, like that is really annoying not being capable to write normal emails without make errors. No patches seem to be availible. Training young kids _in time_ prevents a lot frustration, dropouts from school and waste of very creative talented kids. My son would have a 50% change of being born with it too. So having having a good educational toolset seems important. Wonder if we could involve on this an existing dyslexia organization? good idea. http://books.google.nl/books?id=pLvC1kKUWTkCpg=PA47lpg=PA47dq=audio +feedback +dyslexiasource=blots=iMn_I_8efusig=CQhPMzM15_twYh43WTSbKP6qbmMhl=nlei=DlO3Sru8KI_E-QavmsXcCQsa=Xoi=book_resultct=resultresnum=5#v=onepageq=f=false http://www.springerlink.com/content/r33873h07n78j722/ mmm, I 'll keep it on my list for dutch researchers. Not If I will to sucseed. I never know who am talking to tomorrow :) cheers, Marten Regards, Tomeu cheers Marten -- Marten Vijn linux 2.0.18 OpenBSD 3.6 FreeBSD 4.6 http://martenvijn.nl http://opencommunitycamp.org http://wifisoft.org ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- Marten Vijn linux 2.0.18 OpenBSD 3.6 FreeBSD 4.6 http://martenvijn.nl http://opencommunitycamp.org http://wifisoft.org ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] 2 idea's to train people dyslexia
CCing iaep. Your questions are good. As participants, we have hashed this over to death:) But, our external message is still not spread widely enough:( I will leave the questio open so we, as a community, can both help answer your specific questions and figure out how to simplify and amplify those answers. david On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 10:22 AM, Marilyn Hagle mari...@fineartsforall.org wrote: David, I have been meaning to write to you. Thank you sincerely for making this connection. I really appreciate it. I am attaching at the bottom of this email the letter I sent to the grant writing participants last week. At this point it we have not succeeded in receiving funding from the Dept. of Ed. However the work is moving on. I am particularly interested in testing Sugar. I have a couple of questions . . . first . . . is Sugar a complete operating system, or is it an addon to an operating system, or both? I would really like to download and installation .iso, but have not found such a thing. Maybe I am not looking hard enough? I joined the IAEP list. :) Hope you are well. Marilyn Quoting David Farning dfarn...@sugarlabs.org: Marten, I would like to introduce you to Marilyn Hagle (CCed). She is active at the intersection of dyslexia and technology based education tools. She has recently written a grant to set up a pilot for researching and using sugar as a platform for helping kids overcome or adapt to their dyslexia. :) * Hi there everyone! Thought I ought to send you a note to let you know what is happening. I know now that we did not make the first cut. I received a letter in the mail with the reasons and most were related to the structure of the main narrative. One thing they mentioned was that I did not give detail about which evidence-based technology practices we were using. Heck, I just thought that was something that we incorporated into the process. Another issue they had was that the resource kits would not be developed until the fourth year. My reasoning was that I thought it prudent to be sure about our methods and conclusions before we start sharing them with others. In the grant documentation it states that they reserve the right to issue a second award if there are funds available, so there is tiny remote hope. I have written to the competition manager for this grant, David Malouf, (who was very helpful to answer questions earlier) and asked him about other options. There is another similar grant that has been posted which is due in October. An interesting note is that they took at least three points from our narrative and incorporated them into this new grant. It really looks like they took our proposal and used it as a basis for the new offer. The difference is that the new grant asks specifically for graphics and charts for disabled children, not audiobooks or netbooks. I had not remembered that I had a contact person at Mozilla when I was working on the grant in July. When I received the aforementioned letter, it jolted my brain and I thought to go the Mozilla website. Come to find out, the Mozilla Foundation is eager to consider educational projects offering greater accessibility to dyslexic students. So I sent them our narrative and the staff summary for consideration. I doubt they have vast funding like the Dept. of Ed, but we will see what happens. The educators among us are back to work at our day jobs, but the work to modify existing technology for dyslexic children must continue anyway. This past week my husband and I were able to find a technology solution for Hannah's book reading situation at school. She is required to read one 200 page book per week or she misses recess. She cannot keep up. Did you know that you can go to http://booksshouldbefree.com and http://gutenberg.org and easily download the html versions and mp3 files for many wonderful books? (I knew about them before, but did not realize they were so easy to access.) We added OMusic, an online music player, and FoxVox, a text-to-speech reader to Firefox. The html book files and mp3 audio book files are in a books directory on the hard drive of Hannah's EeePC. We bookmarked the html book files. When Hannah opens a book, she clicks on the music note (OMusic) at the bottom of the Firefox window, and chooses the audio file for the chapter she is reading. She arrows down the text with the reader, always keeping the current text at the top of the window so she does not get lost. Hannah is currently reading/listening to Alice in Wonderland. Already resident on her EeePc are these books: * Secret Garden * Anne of Green Gables * Heidi * Grimms Fairy Tales * Moby Dick * Aesop's Fables * Beatrix Potter Complete * The Day Boy and The Night Girl * The Enchanted Castle * Dracula * Gulliver's Travels * Peter Pan Hannah has
Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] 2 idea's to train people dyslexia
Hi Marilyn, What would your feature list be on a small (linux driven) laptop in addition to mine? - audiofeedback (hear what you type (per word basis)) - adapted lessons (multilanguage) for tipptrainer http://freshmeat.net/projects/pingos_tipptrainer/ - may something thats enlarges the cursor area and obviously: - spelling checker (fix/highlight while typing) - large font buttons thanks, Marten On Mon, 2009-09-21 at 09:40 -0500, David Farning wrote: Marten, I would like to introduce you to Marilyn Hagle (CCed). She is active at the intersection of dyslexia and technology based education tools. She has recently written a grant to set up a pilot for researching and using sugar as a platform for helping kids overcome or adapt to their dyslexia. david On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 5:37 AM, Marten Vijn i...@martenvijn.nl wrote: On Mon, 2009-09-21 at 12:17 +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 09:56, Marten Vijn i...@martenvijn.nl wrote: On Wed, 2009-09-16 at 09:34 +0200, Marten Vijn wrote: Hi, I am not a dyslexia expert, maybe a bit more that average. idea 1 Today I read in a newspaper that it helps people to let them hear what they (words not the characters). __^ type* *Actually I do knwo a lot about dyslexia, like that is really annoying not being capable to write normal emails without make errors. No patches seem to be availible. Training young kids _in time_ prevents a lot frustration, dropouts from school and waste of very creative talented kids. My son would have a 50% change of being born with it too. So having having a good educational toolset seems important. Wonder if we could involve on this an existing dyslexia organization? good idea. http://books.google.nl/books?id=pLvC1kKUWTkCpg=PA47lpg=PA47dq=audio +feedback +dyslexiasource=blots=iMn_I_8efusig=CQhPMzM15_twYh43WTSbKP6qbmMhl=nlei=DlO3Sru8KI_E-QavmsXcCQsa=Xoi=book_resultct=resultresnum=5#v=onepageq=f=false http://www.springerlink.com/content/r33873h07n78j722/ mmm, I 'll keep it on my list for dutch researchers. Not If I will to sucseed. I never know who am talking to tomorrow :) cheers, Marten Regards, Tomeu cheers Marten -- Marten Vijn linux 2.0.18 OpenBSD 3.6 FreeBSD 4.6 http://martenvijn.nl http://opencommunitycamp.org http://wifisoft.org ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- Marten Vijn linux 2.0.18 OpenBSD 3.6 FreeBSD 4.6 http://martenvijn.nl http://opencommunitycamp.org http://wifisoft.org ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ Sugar-devel mailing list sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel -- this email is sent from my mainframe. http://martenvijn.nlSugar on a Stick http://bsd.wifisoft.org/nek/The Network Event Kit http://opencommunitycamp.org 26th Jul - 2nd August ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] 2 idea's to train people dyslexia
On Wed, 2009-09-16 at 09:34 +0200, Marten Vijn wrote: Hi, I am not a dyslexia expert, maybe a bit more that average. idea 1 Today I read in a newspaper that it helps people to let them hear what they (words not the characters). __^ type* *Actually I do knwo a lot about dyslexia, like that is really annoying not being capable to write normal emails without make errors. No patches seem to be availible. Training young kids _in time_ prevents a lot frustration, dropouts from school and waste of very creative talented kids. My son would have a 50% change of being born with it too. So having having a good educational toolset seems important. cheers Marten -- Marten Vijn linux 2.0.18 OpenBSD 3.6 FreeBSD 4.6 http://martenvijn.nl http://opencommunitycamp.org http://wifisoft.org ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
