Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Open issues
Heh, the topic of website was already considered few months ago and we couldn't reach consesus about final view - we had two versions: mine and Sam's one. We probably need to rethink about expected effect and work on already started project :) pt., 26.06.2015 o 20:05 użytkownik samson goddy samsongo...@hotmail.com napisał: Okay, i am done with my exams but i am will resuming Monday. I also i will work with the new survey, but the problem is that i can get through Caryl. Do anyone know her status?, if yes please fill me in. Best Samson Goddy -- From: dan.tena...@mail.ru To: sebast...@fuentelibre.org Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 19:40:17 +0300 CC: iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org; sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org Subject: Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Open issues Wednesday, June 24, 2015 8:48 PM -05:00 from Sebastian Silva sebast...@fuentelibre.org: On 24/06/15 03:40, Sam P. wrote: IDK about the election but. Hopefully somebody who knows about that can respond. Here's a status report: I asked the board to appoint me election committee. Then the board decided we needed to have diversity in the committee. Now it's hard for Caryl, Samson and I to coincide, as one has been traveling, the other has exams, and I am in the process of relocating. I've setup a surveying system (a couple of months ago), that is pretty much ready for voting. I am still waiting for the committee to decide how many seats will be available and when to do the election. I was hoping to use the opportunity to make a wider survey in the community that could inform the direction for the Board. I will limit myself to be the technical person and make sure the surveying system works reliably, while I still wait for the other members of the committee to make decisions and try the surveying system. Thanks, After making you and Ms. Bigenho wait for several weeks to receive approval by the board to be added to the election committee and then seeing Mr. Parkinson receive overnight approval, things were left somewhat unclear. Dan -- I+D SomosAzucar.Org icarito #somosazucar en Freenode IRC Nadie libera a nadie, nadie se libera solo. Los seres humanos se liberan en comunión - P. Freire ___ Sugar-devel mailing list sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Open issues
Okay, i am done with my exams but i am will resuming Monday. I also i will work with the new survey, but the problem is that i can get through Caryl. Do anyone know her status?, if yes please fill me in. Best Samson Goddy From: dan.tena...@mail.ru To: sebast...@fuentelibre.org Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 19:40:17 +0300 CC: iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org; sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org Subject: Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Open issues Wednesday, June 24, 2015 8:48 PM -05:00 from Sebastian Silva sebast...@fuentelibre.org: On 24/06/15 03:40, Sam P. wrote: IDK about the election but. Hopefully somebody who knows about that can respond. Here's a status report: I asked the board to appoint me election committee. Then the board decided we needed to have diversity in the committee. Now it's hard for Caryl, Samson and I to coincide, as one has been traveling, the other has exams, and I am in the process of relocating. I've setup a surveying system (a couple of months ago), that is pretty much ready for voting. I am still waiting for the committee to decide how many seats will be available and when to do the election. I was hoping to use the opportunity to make a wider survey in the community that could inform the direction for the Board. I will limit myself to be the technical person and make sure the surveying system works reliably, while I still wait for the other members of the committee to make decisions and try the surveying system. Thanks, After making you and Ms. Bigenho wait for several weeks to receive approval by the board to be added to the election committee and then seeing Mr. Parkinson receive overnight approval, things were left somewhat unclear. Dan -- I+D SomosAzucar.Org icarito #somosazucar en Freenode IRC Nadie libera a nadie, nadie se libera solo. Los seres humanos se liberan en comunión - P. Freire ___ Sugar-devel mailing list sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Open issues
I posted some edits to a few weeks ago with some heavy editing of the website content. Not sure where things stand. -walter On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 2:23 PM, Tymon Radzik dwg...@gmail.com wrote: Heh, the topic of website was already considered few months ago and we couldn't reach consesus about final view - we had two versions: mine and Sam's one. We probably need to rethink about expected effect and work on already started project :) pt., 26.06.2015 o 20:05 użytkownik samson goddy samsongo...@hotmail.com napisał: Okay, i am done with my exams but i am will resuming Monday. I also i will work with the new survey, but the problem is that i can get through Caryl. Do anyone know her status?, if yes please fill me in. Best Samson Goddy From: dan.tena...@mail.ru To: sebast...@fuentelibre.org Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 19:40:17 +0300 CC: iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org; sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org Subject: Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Open issues Wednesday, June 24, 2015 8:48 PM -05:00 from Sebastian Silva sebast...@fuentelibre.org: On 24/06/15 03:40, Sam P. wrote: IDK about the election but. Hopefully somebody who knows about that can respond. Here's a status report: I asked the board to appoint me election committee. Then the board decided we needed to have diversity in the committee. Now it's hard for Caryl, Samson and I to coincide, as one has been traveling, the other has exams, and I am in the process of relocating. I've setup a surveying system (a couple of months ago), that is pretty much ready for voting. I am still waiting for the committee to decide how many seats will be available and when to do the election. I was hoping to use the opportunity to make a wider survey in the community that could inform the direction for the Board. I will limit myself to be the technical person and make sure the surveying system works reliably, while I still wait for the other members of the committee to make decisions and try the surveying system. Thanks, After making you and Ms. Bigenho wait for several weeks to receive approval by the board to be added to the election committee and then seeing Mr. Parkinson receive overnight approval, things were left somewhat unclear. Dan -- I+D SomosAzucar.Org icarito #somosazucar en Freenode IRC Nadie libera a nadie, nadie se libera solo. Los seres humanos se liberan en comunión - P. Freire ___ Sugar-devel mailing list sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ Sugar-devel mailing list sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Open issues
On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 11:00 PM, Sam P. sam@sam.today wrote: Hi Walter, Still integrating them into the site, I'll keep you updated. 300 Billion served in 1 countries in 10 languages since 1875 :) -walter Thanks, Sam On Sat, Jun 27, 2015 at 12:58 PM Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com wrote: I posted some edits to a few weeks ago with some heavy editing of the website content. Not sure where things stand. -walter On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 2:23 PM, Tymon Radzik dwg...@gmail.com wrote: Heh, the topic of website was already considered few months ago and we couldn't reach consesus about final view - we had two versions: mine and Sam's one. We probably need to rethink about expected effect and work on already started project :) pt., 26.06.2015 o 20:05 użytkownik samson goddy samsongo...@hotmail.com napisał: Okay, i am done with my exams but i am will resuming Monday. I also i will work with the new survey, but the problem is that i can get through Caryl. Do anyone know her status?, if yes please fill me in. Best Samson Goddy From: dan.tena...@mail.ru To: sebast...@fuentelibre.org Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 19:40:17 +0300 CC: iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org; sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org Subject: Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Open issues Wednesday, June 24, 2015 8:48 PM -05:00 from Sebastian Silva sebast...@fuentelibre.org: On 24/06/15 03:40, Sam P. wrote: IDK about the election but. Hopefully somebody who knows about that can respond. Here's a status report: I asked the board to appoint me election committee. Then the board decided we needed to have diversity in the committee. Now it's hard for Caryl, Samson and I to coincide, as one has been traveling, the other has exams, and I am in the process of relocating. I've setup a surveying system (a couple of months ago), that is pretty much ready for voting. I am still waiting for the committee to decide how many seats will be available and when to do the election. I was hoping to use the opportunity to make a wider survey in the community that could inform the direction for the Board. I will limit myself to be the technical person and make sure the surveying system works reliably, while I still wait for the other members of the committee to make decisions and try the surveying system. Thanks, After making you and Ms. Bigenho wait for several weeks to receive approval by the board to be added to the election committee and then seeing Mr. Parkinson receive overnight approval, things were left somewhat unclear. Dan -- I+D SomosAzucar.Org icarito #somosazucar en Freenode IRC Nadie libera a nadie, nadie se libera solo. Los seres humanos se liberan en comunión - P. Freire ___ Sugar-devel mailing list sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ Sugar-devel mailing list sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ Sugar-devel mailing list sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Open issues
Wednesday, June 24, 2015 8:48 PM -05:00 from Sebastian Silva sebast...@fuentelibre.org: On 24/06/15 03:40, Sam P. wrote: IDK about the election but. Hopefully somebody who knows about that can respond. Here's a status report: I asked the board to appoint me election committee. Then the board decided we needed to have diversity in the committee. Now it's hard for Caryl, Samson and I to coincide, as one has been traveling, the other has exams, and I am in the process of relocating. I've setup a surveying system (a couple of months ago), that is pretty much ready for voting. I am still waiting for the committee to decide how many seats will be available and when to do the election. I was hoping to use the opportunity to make a wider survey in the community that could inform the direction for the Board. I will limit myself to be the technical person and make sure the surveying system works reliably, while I still wait for the other members of the committee to make decisions and try the surveying system. Thanks, After making you and Ms. Bigenho wait for several weeks to receive approval by the board to be added to the election committee and then seeing Mr. Parkinson receive overnight approval, things were left somewhat unclear . Dan -- I+D SomosAzucar.Org icarito #somosazucar en Freenode IRC Nadie libera a nadie, nadie se libera solo. Los seres humanos se liberan en comunión - P. Freire ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Open issues
Hello Dan, On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 1:44 AM Dan Tenason dan.tena...@mail.ru wrote: It was impressive to see how quickly Mr. Innocenti updated the infrastructure once he was made aware that the servers had gone down. Some other problem areas have not been dealt with as quickly. We're all volunteers doing this in our own time to the best of my knowledge. Any contributions and patches always welcome! Sugar Labs has now been operating for six months without an oversight board. The early June meeting did not meet quorum and the mid June meeting seemed to happen. After appointing a membership committee, no visible progress has been made towards holding an election. Is it time to drop the Oversight Board as an unnecessary burden? I'm pretty sure that the oversight board members are still alive and that they are making productive decisions. According to the wiki page [1] they had a meeting 2 months ago which they made decisions relating towards the Sugar Deployment Survey, Turtle Art Days and GSOC2015. From my knowledge they are also in control of the spending and domains and those important oversight things. I do not see any reason to drop the oversight board. IDK about the election but. Hopefully somebody who knows about that can respond. The claim of 'Sugar’s Activities are used every school day by nearly 3 million children' is still present as a fact on the Sugar Labs web site. That validity fact is in question. There are several example countries were current usage is well below 100% which puts the assumption that ever XO ever shipped is used daily. I was chatting with Walter about the new website a while ago and he said that we should say we have 3 billion users across 270 languages or something like that. I think that was just a joke, but you get the point. I'm sure that 3million is probs legit because of SoaS and sugarizer as well as XOs. In my **personal** opinion I do not think that the number on the website is an important issue. We have many more bugs and UX bugs that need fixing, and even in the context of the website there are bigger issues. It would be appreciated if someone from Sugar Labs could clarify the status of these issues. Hopefully I did! I'm just an individual volunteer, so don't count my word. Thanks, Sam [1] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Oversight_Board/Meeting_Minutes-2015-05-04 -- Dan Tenason ___ Sugar-devel mailing list sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Open issues
On 24/06/15 03:40, Sam P. wrote: IDK about the election but. Hopefully somebody who knows about that can respond. Here's a status report: I asked the board to appoint me election committee. Then the board decided we needed to have diversity in the committee. Now it's hard for Caryl, Samson and I to coincide, as one has been traveling, the other has exams, and I am in the process of relocating. I've setup a surveying system (a couple of months ago), that is pretty much ready for voting. I am still waiting for the committee to decide how many seats will be available and when to do the election. I was hoping to use the opportunity to make a wider survey in the community that could inform the direction for the Board. I will limit myself to be the technical person and make sure the surveying system works reliably, while I still wait for the other members of the committee to make decisions and try the surveying system. -- I+D SomosAzucar.Org icarito #somosazucar en Freenode IRC Nadie libera a nadie, nadie se libera solo. Los seres humanos se liberan en comunión - P. Freire ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Open issues
Maybe you can give an update at the next meeting? Monday, 6 July. thx. -walter On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 9:48 PM, Sebastian Silva sebast...@fuentelibre.org wrote: On 24/06/15 03:40, Sam P. wrote: IDK about the election but. Hopefully somebody who knows about that can respond. Here's a status report: I asked the board to appoint me election committee. Then the board decided we needed to have diversity in the committee. Now it's hard for Caryl, Samson and I to coincide, as one has been traveling, the other has exams, and I am in the process of relocating. I've setup a surveying system (a couple of months ago), that is pretty much ready for voting. I am still waiting for the committee to decide how many seats will be available and when to do the election. I was hoping to use the opportunity to make a wider survey in the community that could inform the direction for the Board. I will limit myself to be the technical person and make sure the surveying system works reliably, while I still wait for the other members of the committee to make decisions and try the surveying system. -- I+D SomosAzucar.Org icarito #somosazucar en Freenode IRC Nadie libera a nadie, nadie se libera solo. Los seres humanos se liberan en comunión - P. Freire ___ Sugar-devel mailing list sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep