Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Open issues

2015-06-26 Thread Tymon Radzik
Heh, the topic of website was already considered few months ago and we
couldn't reach consesus about final view - we had two versions: mine and
Sam's one. We probably need to rethink about expected effect and work on
already started project :)

pt., 26.06.2015 o 20:05 użytkownik samson goddy samsongo...@hotmail.com
napisał:

 Okay, i am done with my exams but i am will resuming Monday. I also i will
 work with the new survey, but the problem is that i can get through Caryl.
 Do anyone know her status?, if yes please fill me in.

 Best
 Samson Goddy

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 Wednesday, June 24, 2015 8:48 PM -05:00 from Sebastian Silva 
 sebast...@fuentelibre.org:


 On 24/06/15 03:40, Sam P. wrote:
  IDK about the election but. Hopefully somebody who knows about that
  can respond.

 Here's a status report:

 I asked the board to appoint me election committee.

 Then the board decided we needed to have diversity in the committee.

 Now it's hard for Caryl, Samson and I to coincide, as one has been
 traveling, the other has exams, and I am in the process of relocating.

 I've setup a surveying system (a couple of months ago), that is pretty
 much ready for voting. I am still waiting for the committee to decide
 how many seats will be available and when to do the election.

 I was hoping to use the opportunity to make a wider survey in the
 community that could inform the direction for the Board. I will limit
 myself to be the technical person and make sure the surveying system
 works reliably, while I still wait for the other members of the
 committee to make decisions and try the surveying system.


 Thanks,

 After making you and Ms. Bigenho wait for several weeks to receive
 approval by the board to be added to the election committee and then seeing
 Mr. Parkinson receive overnight  approval, things were left somewhat
 unclear.

 Dan


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Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Open issues

2015-06-26 Thread samson goddy
Okay, i am done with my exams but i am will resuming Monday. I also i will work 
with the new survey, but the problem is that i can get through Caryl. Do anyone 
know her status?, if yes please fill me in.

Best 
Samson Goddy

From: dan.tena...@mail.ru
To: sebast...@fuentelibre.org
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 19:40:17 +0300
CC: iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org; sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org
Subject: Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP]  Open issues


Wednesday, June 24, 2015 8:48 PM -05:00 from Sebastian Silva 
sebast...@fuentelibre.org:



On 24/06/15 03:40, Sam P. wrote:

 IDK about the election but.  Hopefully somebody who knows about that

 can respond.


Here's a status report:


I asked the board to appoint me election committee.


Then the board decided we needed to have diversity in the committee.


Now it's hard for Caryl, Samson and I to coincide, as one has been

traveling, the other has exams, and I am in the process of relocating.


I've setup a surveying system (a couple of months ago), that is pretty

much ready for voting. I am still waiting for the committee to decide

how many seats will be available and when to do the election.


I was hoping to use the opportunity to make a wider survey in the

community that could inform the direction for the Board. I will limit

myself to be the technical person and make sure the surveying system

works reliably, while I still wait for the other members of the

committee to make decisions and try the surveying system.

Thanks,

After making you and Ms. Bigenho wait for several weeks to receive approval by 
the board to be added to the election committee and then seeing Mr. Parkinson 
receive overnight  approval, things were left somewhat unclear.

Dan 


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Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Open issues

2015-06-26 Thread Walter Bender
I posted some edits to a few weeks ago with some heavy editing of the
website content. Not sure where things stand.

-walter

On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 2:23 PM, Tymon Radzik dwg...@gmail.com wrote:
 Heh, the topic of website was already considered few months ago and we
 couldn't reach consesus about final view - we had two versions: mine and
 Sam's one. We probably need to rethink about expected effect and work on
 already started project :)

 pt., 26.06.2015 o 20:05 użytkownik samson goddy samsongo...@hotmail.com
 napisał:

 Okay, i am done with my exams but i am will resuming Monday. I also i will
 work with the new survey, but the problem is that i can get through Caryl.
 Do anyone know her status?, if yes please fill me in.

 Best
 Samson Goddy

 
 From: dan.tena...@mail.ru
 To: sebast...@fuentelibre.org
 Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 19:40:17 +0300
 CC: iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org; sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org
 Subject: Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Open issues


 Wednesday, June 24, 2015 8:48 PM -05:00 from Sebastian Silva
 sebast...@fuentelibre.org:


 On 24/06/15 03:40, Sam P. wrote:
  IDK about the election but. Hopefully somebody who knows about that
  can respond.

 Here's a status report:

 I asked the board to appoint me election committee.

 Then the board decided we needed to have diversity in the committee.

 Now it's hard for Caryl, Samson and I to coincide, as one has been
 traveling, the other has exams, and I am in the process of relocating.

 I've setup a surveying system (a couple of months ago), that is pretty
 much ready for voting. I am still waiting for the committee to decide
 how many seats will be available and when to do the election.

 I was hoping to use the opportunity to make a wider survey in the
 community that could inform the direction for the Board. I will limit
 myself to be the technical person and make sure the surveying system
 works reliably, while I still wait for the other members of the
 committee to make decisions and try the surveying system.


 Thanks,

 After making you and Ms. Bigenho wait for several weeks to receive
 approval by the board to be added to the election committee and then seeing
 Mr. Parkinson receive overnight  approval, things were left somewhat
 unclear.

 Dan


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Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Open issues

2015-06-26 Thread Walter Bender
On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 11:00 PM, Sam P. sam@sam.today wrote:
 Hi Walter,

 Still integrating them into the site, I'll keep you updated.

300 Billion served in 1 countries in 10 languages since 1875 :)

-walter


 Thanks,
 Sam

 On Sat, Jun 27, 2015 at 12:58 PM Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 I posted some edits to a few weeks ago with some heavy editing of the
 website content. Not sure where things stand.

 -walter

 On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 2:23 PM, Tymon Radzik dwg...@gmail.com wrote:
  Heh, the topic of website was already considered few months ago and we
  couldn't reach consesus about final view - we had two versions: mine and
  Sam's one. We probably need to rethink about expected effect and work on
  already started project :)
 
  pt., 26.06.2015 o 20:05 użytkownik samson goddy
  samsongo...@hotmail.com
  napisał:
 
  Okay, i am done with my exams but i am will resuming Monday. I also i
  will
  work with the new survey, but the problem is that i can get through
  Caryl.
  Do anyone know her status?, if yes please fill me in.
 
  Best
  Samson Goddy
 
  
  From: dan.tena...@mail.ru
  To: sebast...@fuentelibre.org
  Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 19:40:17 +0300
  CC: iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org; sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org
  Subject: Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Open issues
 
 
  Wednesday, June 24, 2015 8:48 PM -05:00 from Sebastian Silva
  sebast...@fuentelibre.org:
 
 
  On 24/06/15 03:40, Sam P. wrote:
   IDK about the election but. Hopefully somebody who knows about that
   can respond.
 
  Here's a status report:
 
  I asked the board to appoint me election committee.
 
  Then the board decided we needed to have diversity in the committee.
 
  Now it's hard for Caryl, Samson and I to coincide, as one has been
  traveling, the other has exams, and I am in the process of relocating.
 
  I've setup a surveying system (a couple of months ago), that is pretty
  much ready for voting. I am still waiting for the committee to decide
  how many seats will be available and when to do the election.
 
  I was hoping to use the opportunity to make a wider survey in the
  community that could inform the direction for the Board. I will limit
  myself to be the technical person and make sure the surveying system
  works reliably, while I still wait for the other members of the
  committee to make decisions and try the surveying system.
 
 
  Thanks,
 
  After making you and Ms. Bigenho wait for several weeks to receive
  approval by the board to be added to the election committee and then
  seeing
  Mr. Parkinson receive overnight  approval, things were left somewhat
  unclear.
 
  Dan
 
 
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Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Open issues

2015-06-25 Thread Dan Tenason
 Wednesday, June 24, 2015 8:48 PM -05:00 from Sebastian Silva 
sebast...@fuentelibre.org:

On 24/06/15 03:40, Sam P. wrote:
 IDK about the election but.  Hopefully somebody who knows about that
 can respond.

Here's a status report:

I asked the board to appoint me election committee.

Then the board decided we needed to have diversity in the committee.

Now it's hard for Caryl, Samson and I to coincide, as one has been
traveling, the other has exams, and I am in the process of relocating.

I've setup a surveying system (a couple of months ago), that is pretty
much ready for voting. I am still waiting for the committee to decide
how many seats will be available and when to do the election.

I was hoping to use the opportunity to make a wider survey in the
community that could inform the direction for the Board. I will limit
myself to be the technical person and make sure the surveying system
works reliably, while I still wait for the other members of the
committee to make decisions and try the surveying system.

Thanks,

After making you and Ms. Bigenho wait for several weeks to receive approval by 
the board to be added to the election committee and then seeing Mr. Parkinson 
receive overnight  approval, things were left somewhat  unclear .

Dan 

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Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Open issues

2015-06-24 Thread Sam P.
Hello Dan,

On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 1:44 AM Dan Tenason dan.tena...@mail.ru wrote:

 It was impressive to see how quickly Mr. Innocenti updated the
 infrastructure once he was made aware that the servers had gone down. Some
 other problem areas have not been dealt with as quickly.


We're all volunteers doing this in our own time to the best of my
knowledge.  Any contributions and patches always welcome!



 Sugar Labs has now been operating for six months without an oversight
 board. The early June meeting did not meet quorum and the mid June meeting
 seemed to happen. After appointing a membership committee, no visible
 progress has been made towards holding an election. Is it time to drop the
 Oversight Board as an unnecessary burden?


I'm pretty sure that the oversight board members are still alive and that
they are making productive decisions.  According to the wiki page [1] they
had a meeting 2 months ago which they made decisions relating towards the
Sugar Deployment Survey, Turtle Art Days and GSOC2015.  From my knowledge
they are also in control of the spending and domains and those important
oversight things.

I do not see any reason to drop the oversight board.

IDK about the election but.  Hopefully somebody who knows about that can
respond.



 The claim of 'Sugar’s Activities are used every school day by nearly 3
 million children' is still present as a fact on the Sugar Labs web site.
 That validity fact is in question. There are several example countries were
 current usage is well below 100% which puts the assumption that ever XO
 ever shipped is used daily.


I was chatting with Walter about the new website a while ago and he said
that we should say we have 3 billion users across 270 languages or
something like that.  I think that was just a joke, but you get the point.
I'm sure that 3million is probs legit because of SoaS and sugarizer as well
as XOs.

In my **personal** opinion I do not think that the number on the website is
an important issue.  We have many more bugs and UX bugs that need fixing,
and even in the context of the website there are bigger issues.



 It would be appreciated if someone from Sugar Labs could clarify the
 status of these issues.


Hopefully I did!  I'm just an individual volunteer, so don't count my word.

Thanks,
Sam

[1]  http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Oversight_Board/Meeting_Minutes-2015-05-04



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Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Open issues

2015-06-24 Thread Sebastian Silva

On 24/06/15 03:40, Sam P. wrote:
 IDK about the election but.  Hopefully somebody who knows about that
 can respond.

Here's a status report:

I asked the board to appoint me election committee.

Then the board decided we needed to have diversity in the committee.

Now it's hard for Caryl, Samson and I to coincide, as one has been
traveling, the other has exams, and I am in the process of relocating.

I've setup a surveying system (a couple of months ago), that is pretty
much ready for voting. I am still waiting for the committee to decide
how many seats will be available and when to do the election.

I was hoping to use the opportunity to make a wider survey in the
community that could inform the direction for the Board. I will limit
myself to be the technical person and make sure the surveying system
works reliably, while I still wait for the other members of the
committee to make decisions and try the surveying system.

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Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Open issues

2015-06-24 Thread Walter Bender
Maybe you can give an update at the next meeting? Monday, 6 July.

thx.

-walter

On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 9:48 PM, Sebastian Silva
sebast...@fuentelibre.org wrote:

 On 24/06/15 03:40, Sam P. wrote:
 IDK about the election but.  Hopefully somebody who knows about that
 can respond.

 Here's a status report:

 I asked the board to appoint me election committee.

 Then the board decided we needed to have diversity in the committee.

 Now it's hard for Caryl, Samson and I to coincide, as one has been
 traveling, the other has exams, and I am in the process of relocating.

 I've setup a surveying system (a couple of months ago), that is pretty
 much ready for voting. I am still waiting for the committee to decide
 how many seats will be available and when to do the election.

 I was hoping to use the opportunity to make a wider survey in the
 community that could inform the direction for the Board. I will limit
 myself to be the technical person and make sure the surveying system
 works reliably, while I still wait for the other members of the
 committee to make decisions and try the surveying system.

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