Re: [IAEP] [iaep-boun...@lists.sugarlabs.org: Auto-discard notification]

2009-03-10 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
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On Mon, Mar 09, 2009 at 09:52:00PM -0400, Ivan Krstić wrote:
On Mar 5, 2009, at 6:12 PM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
 which made me assume that I was only moderator, not admin.


I've reset the admin password for iaep and sent it to Jonas; anyone 
else who needs the password should contact Jonas or me to get it.

Thanks (also for telling who are the admins)!


Let me add, that if you want to get in touch with *some* admin (i.e. not 
anyone specific) then please use the addresses advertised by the list.

Example: Above email contained inside the email header the following 
line (close to the bottom of the stack, at least on my mailsystem):

List-Help: mailto:iaep-requ...@lists.sugarlabs.org?subject=help

This means Send an email iaep-requ...@lists.sugarlabs.org with 'help' 
in the subject field if you need help using the mailinglist.


...but of course, if the problem is that the mailinglist is completely 
down, then it makes better sense to email us directly :-)


Kind regards,

 - Jonas

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Re: [IAEP] [iaep-boun...@lists.sugarlabs.org: Auto-discard notification]

2009-03-10 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
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On Mon, Mar 09, 2009 at 09:52:50PM -0400, Ivan Krstić wrote:
On Mar 6, 2009, at 4:09 AM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
 Any idea how something like this could have happened?

Probably by a list admin/moderator mistakenly flagging his message as 
spam.

...or actual spam abusing his email address, flagged as spam.

Please, list moderators, avoid flagging senders as spam: Leave it to 
admins to apply regex-based filters for senders that can only be 
spammers.

Do we have any list moderators at all that are not list admins too now?


  - Jonas

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Re: [IAEP] [iaep-boun...@lists.sugarlabs.org: Auto-discard notification]

2009-03-09 Thread Ivan Krstić
On Mar 5, 2009, at 6:12 PM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
 which made me assume that I was only moderator, not admin.


I've reset the admin password for iaep and sent it to Jonas; anyone  
else who needs the password should contact Jonas or me to get it.

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Re: [IAEP] [iaep-boun...@lists.sugarlabs.org: Auto-discard notification]

2009-03-09 Thread Ivan Krstić
On Mar 6, 2009, at 4:09 AM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
 Any idea how something like this could have happened?

Probably by a list admin/moderator mistakenly flagging his message as  
spam.

 Were other people in that list?


Only a bunch of spam-looking addresses.

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Re: [IAEP] [iaep-boun...@lists.sugarlabs.org: Auto-discard notification]

2009-03-06 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 19:40, Ivan Krstić
krs...@solarsail.hcs.harvard.edu wrote:
 On Mar 5, 2009, at 10:32 AM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
 Yes, at iaep it got discarded while at -devel it only got quarantined.


 Ed's e-mail address had been added by a list admin or moderator to the
 non-members whose messages should be automatically discarded list.
 I've now reset that list.

Any idea how something like this could have happened? Were other
people in that list?

Thanks,

Tomeu
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Re: [IAEP] [iaep-boun...@lists.sugarlabs.org: Auto-discard notification]

2009-03-06 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
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On Fri, Mar 06, 2009 at 10:09:51AM +0100, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 19:40, Ivan Krstić
krs...@solarsail.hcs.harvard.edu wrote:
 On Mar 5, 2009, at 10:32 AM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
 Yes, at iaep it got discarded while at -devel it only got 
 quarantined.


 Ed's e-mail address had been added by a list admin or moderator to 
 the non-members whose messages should be automatically discarded 
 list.
 I've now reset that list.

Any idea how something like this could have happened? Were other
people in that list?

The web interface for list moderators (which I access through the 
command line wrapper listadmin) allows adding senders to a blacklist.

Moderators are not, however, allowed to see or edit same blacklist.

Moderators also are not allowed to see or edit the rules causing 
quarantaining to happen in the first place (e.g. whitelists and 
filters).


  - Jonas

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[IAEP] [iaep-boun...@lists.sugarlabs.org: Auto-discard notification]

2009-03-05 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
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Below email was auto-discarded.

I suspect we might loose valuable contribution due to this behaviour of 
our mailinglist setup.

Currently I am allowed only to approve/drop quarantined mail, and 
receive info on stuff like this.

If the project finds it interesting that I look into this and try avoid 
similar things happening again, then please grant me admin access to the 
lists!


  - Jonas



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Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 08:52:46 -0500
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The attached message has been automatically discarded.
From: Ed McNierney e...@laptop.org
Subject: Re: [IAEP] [ANNOUNCE] Sucrose 0.84.0 Final Release
To: Simon Schampijer si...@schampijer.de
Cc: Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org,
Sugar-dev sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org,
OLPC Development de...@lists.laptop.org,
iaep iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org,
Marketing market...@lists.sugarlabs.org
Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 08:52:19 -0500
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Congratulations to everyone - very nice job!

- Ed


On Mar 5, 2009, at 5:26 AM, Simon Schampijer wrote:

 Bernie Innocenti wrote:
 On 03/05/09 10:56, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
 So, how are we going to celebrate it? As 0.84.1 is going to be on,  
 we
 could do a bug fix sprint during a weekend.

 Should we get the marketing team to prepare a press release?

 Did we announce it on Freshmeat?  Slashdot?  LWN?  OLPCNews?

 The marketing team is already working on it. 2 things I think are left.
 Good release notes and a well enough working Soas for people to try  
 out.
 Both will be available in the next days - at least that is the plan.

 Cheers,
Simon

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Re: [IAEP] [iaep-boun...@lists.sugarlabs.org: Auto-discard notification]

2009-03-05 Thread Ivan Krstić
On Mar 5, 2009, at 10:32 AM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
 Yes, at iaep it got discarded while at -devel it only got quarantined.


Ed's e-mail address had been added by a list admin or moderator to the  
non-members whose messages should be automatically discarded list.  
I've now reset that list.

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Re: [IAEP] [iaep-boun...@lists.sugarlabs.org: Auto-discard notification]

2009-03-05 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
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On Thu, Mar 05, 2009 at 01:40:21PM -0500, Ivan Krstić wrote:
On Mar 5, 2009, at 10:32 AM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
 Yes, at iaep it got discarded while at -devel it only got 
 quarantined.


Ed's e-mail address had been added by a list admin or moderator to the 
non-members whose messages should be automatically discarded list.  
I've now reset that list.

That would be my first place to look too, for this particular kind of 
issue.

If I was allowed, that is. :-P


  - Jonas

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Re: [IAEP] [iaep-boun...@lists.sugarlabs.org: Auto-discard notification]

2009-03-05 Thread Brian Jordan
On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 2:15 PM, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote:
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 On Thu, Mar 05, 2009 at 01:40:21PM -0500, Ivan Krstić wrote:
On Mar 5, 2009, at 10:32 AM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
 Yes, at iaep it got discarded while at -devel it only got
 quarantined.


Ed's e-mail address had been added by a list admin or moderator to the
non-members whose messages should be automatically discarded list.
I've now reset that list.

 That would be my first place to look too, for this particular kind of
 issue.

 If I was allowed, that is. :-P


  - Jonas

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Re: [IAEP] [iaep-boun...@lists.sugarlabs.org: Auto-discard notification]

2009-03-05 Thread Ivan Krstić
On Mar 5, 2009, at 2:15 PM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
 That would be my first place to look too, for this particular kind of
 issue. If I was allowed, that is. :-P


You're already an admin for iaep, which should allow you to look at --  
and modify -- all of the list's settings. Is there other access you  
need?

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Re: [IAEP] [iaep-boun...@lists.sugarlabs.org: Auto-discard notification]

2009-03-05 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
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On Thu, Mar 05, 2009 at 04:26:36PM -0500, Ivan Krstić wrote:
On Mar 5, 2009, at 2:15 PM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
 That would be my first place to look too, for this particular kind of 
 issue. If I was allowed, that is. :-P


You're already an admin for iaep, which should allow you to look at -- 
and modify -- all of the list's settings. Is there other access you 
need?

I was provided a password that works properly at 
http://lists.sugarlabs.org/admindb/iadb but not at 
http://lists.sugarlabs.org/admin/iadb - which made me assume that I was 
only moderator, not admin.


Did I perhaps miss something obvious?


Kind regards,

  - Jonas

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