Re: [IAEP] 70 minute interview with Bryan Berry on XO deployment in Nepal

[Bryan Berry]

On Wed, 2009-04-29 at 22:18 +0930, Bill Kerr wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 6:13 PM, Bryan Berry  
> on the other hand if you are saying that you don't have time to do the
> educational research as well as doing everything else then that is
> understandable. I wouldn't criticise that but I don't think it should
> be abstracted to become a theoretical point either, that local is in
> some sense superior to central. I think a formulation that there is a
> dynamic interaction b/w central and local is better - and leads to
> better global working relationships as well.

Our team has done a lot of research, in fact our curriculum experts
received some their professional training at the Bank Street school of
education in New York. I wager that they are as well-versed in Vygotsky,
Piaget, and others I don't know the names of as their western
counterparts.

I think we can agree that there should be interaction b/w both local and
central and neither can be neglected ;) My core point is that outside
materials have to be assimilated into the educational system, the
educational system won't be assimilated to the materials, whether in
Vienna, Kathmandu, or NYC.  

For example, Turtle Art is useful in all three cities, but needs to be
translated to each locale, accompanied w/ lesson plans, and linked to
the local curriculum. The great thing about Turtle Art is that it can me
modified in these relatively small but important ways due to the fact
that it is open-source.


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Re: [IAEP] 70 minute interview with Bryan Berry on XO deployment in Nepal

[Maria Droujkova]

> 10) Open Source software critical to high quality education – education has
> to be very customised, to the kids, the teacher, the environment and the
> country – not something you can design in New York city and will fit another
> country
>
> Liping Ma argues (admittedly from small sample sizes) that many teachers
> teach elementary maths differently and *better* in China than in the USA
> http://billkerr2.blogspot.com/2009/03/long-multiplication.html
>

I think education has to be customizABLE, not customized. Every
practitioner of math has to be able to make their own version of it,
based on the previous traditions - from rephrasing definitions in your
own words to finding math in your everyday life, from choosing
representation that best suites your data and your audience to
applying general principles to particular examples. Strong teachers
(including those Ma studied) are able to use timeless, universal ideas
and strategies in ways that are meaningful to themselves and their
particular students. For example, a large part of what Chinese,
Japanese or Eastern European teachers do themselves and teach their
students is creation of meaningful example spaces for each
mathematical idea and concept, including a variety of applications,
representations, connections, contexts, examples and counterexamples.
One of the most well-known part of Ma's research of these differences
included teachers searching for examples of fraction operations.

In a telling cultural experiment reported by Sfard from Israel, a
chapter quiz asked students to prove a geometry theorem from the
chapter. However, the theorem was rephrased compared to the chapter,
and letters labeling geometric figures were changed around. Recent
immigrants from Eastern Europe have not noticed the change, because it
is very normal for them - a sort of customization of material they are
taught to do for themselves. On the other hand, many kids who grew up
in Israel had difficulties recognizing or proving the theorem in its
"new" form.

How can this principle of customizable math be applied to framework development?


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MariaD

Make math your own, to make your own math.

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Re: [IAEP] 70 minute interview with Bryan Berry on XO deployment in Nepal

[Bill Kerr]

On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 6:13 PM, Bryan Berry  wrote:

> > From: Bill Kerr 
> > 10) Open Source software critical to high quality education ? education
> has
> > to be very customised, to the kids, the teacher, the environment and the
> > country ? not something you can design in New York city and will fit
> another
> > country
> > http://billkerr2.blogspot.com/2009/04/olpc-nepal-project-overview.html
> >
> > The counterbalance to that is that The Enlightenment is what made us,
> what
> > created modernity, what transformed diverse cultures into our modern
> culture
>
> Well, as they say "all politics are local" and the corollary "all
> education issues are local issues" is true as well. Education systems
> are political institutions and they require that new educational content
> and methods fit them, rather than the other way around. Imposing a whole
> new pedagogy is only feasible when you have a lot of political power, $,
> and significant body of evidence to back you up. As we have none of
> those here in Nepal, we have to accommodate the existing system as much
> as we can.
>
> The Enlightenment that made western culture happened among wealthy men
> w/ free time on their hands, or those sponsored by wealthy individuals.
> It didn't happen w/in educational institutions of the day IIRC. But that
> is another debate ;)


for starters, the whole xo project is in contradiction to the above argument
- or I thought it was


> > Zitat von Ties Stuij :
> > > I think you're misinterpreting Bryan as having said something
> > > culturally relativistic. Think more practical. The most practical
> > > example for Bryan's point is that if we wouldn't make stuff that is in
> > > line with the Nepali curriculum, week by week, subject by subject, it
> > > would be very hard to sell here.
>
> wow, I couldn't say it better myself.
>
> > Christoph wrote:
> > So in this case it doesn't necessarily make sense for someone in Berlin
> > (let alone New York) to design a Maths learning activity to be used in
> > an Austrian school.
>
> I disagree w/ this. Someone in Berlin or NYC can create learning
> activities of value to those in Nepal or elsewhere but likely they have
> to be changed in small but important ways. That is one of the reasons
> open-source is so critical to improving education.


that seems to me to be an important qualification of Bryan's words in the
initial interview - no harm in that

10) Open Source software critical to high quality education – education has
to be very customised, to the kids, the teacher, the environment and the
country – not something you can design in New York city and will fit another
country

Liping Ma argues (admittedly from small sample sizes) that many teachers
teach elementary maths differently and *better* in China than in the USA
http://billkerr2.blogspot.com/2009/03/long-multiplication.html

if you are suggesting that in all cases the digital transformations should
stick to existing Nepali methods - (a dubious construct since different
teachers in all education systems use different methods, Nepal too would
have its more thoughtful and less thoughtful teachers as do all systems) -
where there is evidence that some methods work better than others then I
couldn't agree with that

on the other hand if you are saying that you don't have time to do the
educational research as well as doing everything else then that is
understandable. I wouldn't criticise that but I don't think it should be
abstracted to become a theoretical point either, that local is in some sense
superior to central. I think a formulation that there is a dynamic
interaction b/w central and local is better - and leads to better global
working relationships as well.
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Re: [IAEP] 70 minute interview with Bryan Berry on XO deployment in Nepal

[Rita Freudenberg]

Christoph Derndorfer wrote:
> Zitat von Ties Stuij :
>
>   
>> On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 6:38 AM, Bill Kerr  wrote:
>> 
>>> hard to argue against someone who is doing such great work in Nepal but I
>>> thought Bryan overplayed the local factors  too much:
>>>
>>> 10) Open Source software critical to high quality education – education has
>>> to be very customised, to the kids, the teacher, the environment and the
>>> country – not something you can design in New York city and will fit another
>>> country
>>> http://billkerr2.blogspot.com/2009/04/olpc-nepal-project-overview.html
>>>
>>> The counterbalance to that is that The Enlightenment is what made us, what
>>> created modernity, what transformed diverse cultures into our modern culture
>>>
>>> I hope it doesn't become unfashionable to say that modernity is a good thing
>>> see
>>> http://learningevolves.wikispaces.com/nonUniversals
>>>   
>> I think you're misinterpreting Bryan as having said something
>> culturally relativistic. Think more practical. The most practical
>> example for Bryan's point is that if we wouldn't make stuff that is in
>> line with the Nepali curriculum, week by week, subject by subject, it
>> would be very hard to sell here. And would be pretty useless for the
>> teachers. Also the level the teachers and children are at is pretty
>> different. You can't just give the teachers Moodle and expect them to
>> put in their wildest teaching dreams; not in a lot of other countries
>> as well I guess but in our teacher training course we cover things
>> like moving the mouse. We leave in the grade 2 activities for the
>> grade 6 students, because a lot of them don't have a strong grasp of
>> grade 2 material.
>>
>> This requires presenting the material in a different way, depending on
>> the local situation, just as already within one classroom different
>> kids will be better helped by different methods.
>> 
>
> Another example that I recently learned about (and something that I 
> would have never thought to be the case!) is that something as simple 
> as division in Mathematics is taught quite differently in Austria than 
> in Germany.
>
> It might be the same concept all around the world but if we can't adapt 
> interactive learning solutions to such a vital requirement in a country 
> than there's little chance of teachers actually using it.
>
> So in this case it doesn't necessarily make sense for someone in Berlin 
> (let alone New York) to design a Maths learning activity to be used in 
> an Austrian school.
>   
Oh well, it's not even the same in different federal states in Germany ...

But it would be interesting to show the nepali Etoys projects to german 
teachers and ask them, if they can imagine to use these in their class 
room (of course I have to translate the text before...).

Rita
> Just my 2 eurocents,
> Christoph
>
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Re: [IAEP] 70 minute interview with Bryan Berry on XO deployment in Nepal

[Christoph Derndorfer]

Zitat von Bryan Berry :

>> Christoph wrote:
>> So in this case it doesn't necessarily make sense for someone in Berlin
>> (let alone New York) to design a Maths learning activity to be used in
>> an Austrian school.
>
> I disagree w/ this. Someone in Berlin or NYC can create learning
> activities of value to those in Nepal or elsewhere but likely they have
> to be changed in small but important ways. That is one of the reasons
> open-source is so critical to improving education.

Mmm, I still would argue that now in some cases - especially when 
relevant changes end up being quite significant - it might be easier to 
basically start from scratch rather than adapting and modifying an 
existing activity.

I think (and I'm basically just repeating what others have said 
before;-) what's best in the long-run is to have a common framework for 
educational activities or at least sub-categories of such activities. 
This framework should allow for basic functionalities such as tracking 
student progress, dynamically adapting exercises to a student's 
capabilities and things like the basics of Maths exercises or a typing 
tutor to be taken care of. These basic building blocks can then be 
shared across the globe while making it easier and quicker for people 
to build learning activities tailored to the specific requirements of 
their country, province or town.

But I'm really preaching to the choir here so I'll just shut up and 
finish my lunch-break:-)

Christoph

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Re: [IAEP] 70 minute interview with Bryan Berry on XO deployment in Nepal

[Bryan Berry]

> From: Bill Kerr 
> 10) Open Source software critical to high quality education ? education has
> to be very customised, to the kids, the teacher, the environment and the
> country ? not something you can design in New York city and will fit another
> country
> http://billkerr2.blogspot.com/2009/04/olpc-nepal-project-overview.html
> 
> The counterbalance to that is that The Enlightenment is what made us, what
> created modernity, what transformed diverse cultures into our modern culture

Well, as they say "all politics are local" and the corollary "all
education issues are local issues" is true as well. Education systems
are political institutions and they require that new educational content
and methods fit them, rather than the other way around. Imposing a whole
new pedagogy is only feasible when you have a lot of political power, $,
and significant body of evidence to back you up. As we have none of
those here in Nepal, we have to accommodate the existing system as much
as we can.

The Enlightenment that made western culture happened among wealthy men
w/ free time on their hands, or those sponsored by wealthy individuals.
It didn't happen w/in educational institutions of the day IIRC. But that
is another debate ;) 

> Zitat von Ties Stuij :
> > I think you're misinterpreting Bryan as having said something
> > culturally relativistic. Think more practical. The most practical
> > example for Bryan's point is that if we wouldn't make stuff that is in
> > line with the Nepali curriculum, week by week, subject by subject, it
> > would be very hard to sell here. 

wow, I couldn't say it better myself.

> Christoph wrote:
> So in this case it doesn't necessarily make sense for someone in Berlin 
> (let alone New York) to design a Maths learning activity to be used in 
> an Austrian school.

I disagree w/ this. Someone in Berlin or NYC can create learning
activities of value to those in Nepal or elsewhere but likely they have
to be changed in small but important ways. That is one of the reasons
open-source is so critical to improving education.


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Technology Director
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Re: [IAEP] 70 minute interview with Bryan Berry on XO deployment in Nepal

[Christoph Derndorfer]

Zitat von Ties Stuij :

> On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 6:38 AM, Bill Kerr  wrote:
>> hard to argue against someone who is doing such great work in Nepal but I
>> thought Bryan overplayed the local factors  too much:
>>
>> 10) Open Source software critical to high quality education – education has
>> to be very customised, to the kids, the teacher, the environment and the
>> country – not something you can design in New York city and will fit another
>> country
>> http://billkerr2.blogspot.com/2009/04/olpc-nepal-project-overview.html
>>
>> The counterbalance to that is that The Enlightenment is what made us, what
>> created modernity, what transformed diverse cultures into our modern culture
>>
>> I hope it doesn't become unfashionable to say that modernity is a good thing
>> see
>> http://learningevolves.wikispaces.com/nonUniversals
>
> I think you're misinterpreting Bryan as having said something
> culturally relativistic. Think more practical. The most practical
> example for Bryan's point is that if we wouldn't make stuff that is in
> line with the Nepali curriculum, week by week, subject by subject, it
> would be very hard to sell here. And would be pretty useless for the
> teachers. Also the level the teachers and children are at is pretty
> different. You can't just give the teachers Moodle and expect them to
> put in their wildest teaching dreams; not in a lot of other countries
> as well I guess but in our teacher training course we cover things
> like moving the mouse. We leave in the grade 2 activities for the
> grade 6 students, because a lot of them don't have a strong grasp of
> grade 2 material.
>
> This requires presenting the material in a different way, depending on
> the local situation, just as already within one classroom different
> kids will be better helped by different methods.

Another example that I recently learned about (and something that I 
would have never thought to be the case!) is that something as simple 
as division in Mathematics is taught quite differently in Austria than 
in Germany.

It might be the same concept all around the world but if we can't adapt 
interactive learning solutions to such a vital requirement in a country 
than there's little chance of teachers actually using it.

So in this case it doesn't necessarily make sense for someone in Berlin 
(let alone New York) to design a Maths learning activity to be used in 
an Austrian school.

Just my 2 eurocents,
Christoph

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Re: [IAEP] 70 minute interview with Bryan Berry on XO deployment in Nepal

[Ties Stuij]

On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 6:38 AM, Bill Kerr  wrote:
> hard to argue against someone who is doing such great work in Nepal but I
> thought Bryan overplayed the local factors  too much:
>
> 10) Open Source software critical to high quality education – education has
> to be very customised, to the kids, the teacher, the environment and the
> country – not something you can design in New York city and will fit another
> country
> http://billkerr2.blogspot.com/2009/04/olpc-nepal-project-overview.html
>
> The counterbalance to that is that The Enlightenment is what made us, what
> created modernity, what transformed diverse cultures into our modern culture
>
> I hope it doesn't become unfashionable to say that modernity is a good thing
> see
> http://learningevolves.wikispaces.com/nonUniversals

I think you're misinterpreting Bryan as having said something
culturally relativistic. Think more practical. The most practical
example for Bryan's point is that if we wouldn't make stuff that is in
line with the Nepali curriculum, week by week, subject by subject, it
would be very hard to sell here. And would be pretty useless for the
teachers. Also the level the teachers and children are at is pretty
different. You can't just give the teachers Moodle and expect them to
put in their wildest teaching dreams; not in a lot of other countries
as well I guess but in our teacher training course we cover things
like moving the mouse. We leave in the grade 2 activities for the
grade 6 students, because a lot of them don't have a strong grasp of
grade 2 material.

This requires presenting the material in a different way, depending on
the local situation, just as already within one classroom different
kids will be better helped by different methods.

/Ties

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Re: [IAEP] 70 minute interview with Bryan Berry on XO deployment in Nepal

[Bill Kerr]

hard to argue against someone who is doing such great work in Nepal but I
thought Bryan overplayed the local factors  too much:

10) Open Source software critical to high quality education – education has
to be very customised, to the kids, the teacher, the environment and the
country – not something you can design in New York city and will fit another
country
http://billkerr2.blogspot.com/2009/04/olpc-nepal-project-overview.html

The counterbalance to that is that The Enlightenment is what made us, what
created modernity, what transformed diverse cultures into our modern culture

I hope it doesn't become unfashionable to say that modernity is a good thing
see
http://learningevolves.wikispaces.com/nonUniversals
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Re: [IAEP] 70 minute interview with Bryan Berry on XO deployment in Nepal

[Sayamindu Dasgupta]

On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 9:36 PM, Martin Dengler
 wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 10:37:42PM +0930, Bill Kerr wrote:
>> I've transcribed a large portion of this interview on my blog:
>> http://billkerr2.blogspot.com/2009/04/olpc-nepal-project-overview.html
>>
>> might be handy if you don't have 60 minutes to spare
>
> Thanks very much - 5 mins. vs. 60 mins...makes all the difference.
>
> The portion that I'll paraphrase as "content is king" (or "create the
> content and the hardware orders will come", for a longer version) made
> me re-think the ebook-concept-as-trojan-horse argument that's been
> made before: its big advantage is that it short-circuits the "lack of
> content" problem by definition: it seems popular discourse takes for
> granted that e-book readers are separate to e-books but not that
> educational laptops are separate from educational content.
>
> A killer app might be an "App Store" for books, with the ability to
> access multiple "stores".  Project Gutenberg could be a store, for
> example.  Even just Project Gutenberg support in Read would be cool
> (Apologies if this is already available and I don't know about it -
> please correct me).  Calibre's been talked about but the feature is
> "on the TODO list"[1] (though I didn't see it[2]).

I have been Sugarising FBReader for some time: see
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Sayamindu/BookReader for details. There
is also a discussion list that may be of interest to many:
http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/bookreader

A nice source of ebooks is http://www.feedbooks.com/

Thanks,
Sayamindu

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Re: [IAEP] 70 minute interview with Bryan Berry on XO deployment in Nepal

[Carol Farlow Lerche]

Sayamindu has ported fbreader to the XO, but it is Sugar .82 and is not yet
in SOAS or a.sl.o.  It reads epub format among others, which is to be found
on many of the free sites.  I made the following XO style library bundle of
the Newbery medal winning children's books by women authors from the UPenn
site, and it is still experimental in aslo because it needs recommendations,
but recommendations require that you have the reader.

http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/addon/4077

Yes, it is in English.  I know there is a lot of classic Spanish language
content out there that could be packaged as well, because I gathered it as a
resource for my daughter's AP Spanish Literature class a few years back.

I have a detailed lesson plan and student materials bundle for a wonderful
literacy activity using write and browse that I want to load (teacher tested
-- contributed by my daughter the teacher -- and I could make more) , but we
need a category for lesson plans so someone would know to look for it.

We're so close to being able to start loading content, but seem to get
sidetracked into discussions of better content formats and other "perfect is
the enemy of the good" topics every time.

On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 9:09 AM, Benjamin M. Schwartz <
bmsch...@fas.harvard.edu> wrote:

> Martin Dengler wrote:
> > A killer app might be an "App Store" for books, with the ability to
> > access multiple "stores".  Project Gutenberg could be a store, for
> > example.  Even just Project Gutenberg support in Read would be cool
> > (Apologies if this is already available and I don't know about it -
> > please correct me).
>
> Perhaps you would like http://manybooks.net
>
> --Ben
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Re: [IAEP] 70 minute interview with Bryan Berry on XO deployment in Nepal

[Benjamin M. Schwartz]

Martin Dengler wrote:
> A killer app might be an "App Store" for books, with the ability to
> access multiple "stores".  Project Gutenberg could be a store, for
> example.  Even just Project Gutenberg support in Read would be cool
> (Apologies if this is already available and I don't know about it -
> please correct me).

Perhaps you would like http://manybooks.net

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Re: [IAEP] 70 minute interview with Bryan Berry on XO deployment in Nepal

[Martin Dengler]

On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 10:37:42PM +0930, Bill Kerr wrote:
> I've transcribed a large portion of this interview on my blog:
> http://billkerr2.blogspot.com/2009/04/olpc-nepal-project-overview.html
> 
> might be handy if you don't have 60 minutes to spare

Thanks very much - 5 mins. vs. 60 mins...makes all the difference.

The portion that I'll paraphrase as "content is king" (or "create the
content and the hardware orders will come", for a longer version) made
me re-think the ebook-concept-as-trojan-horse argument that's been
made before: its big advantage is that it short-circuits the "lack of
content" problem by definition: it seems popular discourse takes for
granted that e-book readers are separate to e-books but not that
educational laptops are separate from educational content.

A killer app might be an "App Store" for books, with the ability to
access multiple "stores".  Project Gutenberg could be a store, for
example.  Even just Project Gutenberg support in Read would be cool
(Apologies if this is already available and I don't know about it -
please correct me).  Calibre's been talked about but the feature is
"on the TODO list"[1] (though I didn't see it[2]).

http://www.mobileread.com/ appears to be a place to start reading
about e-book reader software and platforms, but I don't have any more
time to do the necessary research to see what the solved problems are
(and how they're applicable to Sugar), unfortunately.

Martin

1. http://calibre.kovidgoyal.net/ticket/2297#comment:1
2. http://calibre.kovidgoyal.net/roadmap


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Re: [IAEP] 70 minute interview with Bryan Berry on XO deployment in Nepal

[Bill Kerr]

I've transcribed a large portion of this interview on my blog:
http://billkerr2.blogspot.com/2009/04/olpc-nepal-project-overview.html

might be handy if you don't have 60 minutes to spare


On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 3:49 AM, Bill Kerr  wrote:

> excellent interview, well worth listening to
>
> this gave me a clearer impression of the challenges facing an xo deployment
> than anything else I have seen, read or heard - although much of it is nepal
> specific I suspect that much of it would also apply to other developing
> countries too
>
> excellent questions from Randall covering a wide range of topics and Bryan
> was more than happy to provide comprehensive responses - with an infectious
> enthusiasm
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 10:03 PM, Costello, Rob R <
> costello.ro...@edumail.vic.gov.au> wrote:
>
>>  don't know if this has been flagged but just ran across this :
>>
>> 70 minute interview with Bryan Berry on XO deployment in Nepal
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>> http://twit.tv/floss66
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Re: [IAEP] 70 minute interview with Bryan Berry on XO deployment in Nepal

[Bill Kerr]

excellent interview, well worth listening to

this gave me a clearer impression of the challenges facing an xo deployment
than anything else I have seen, read or heard - although much of it is nepal
specific I suspect that much of it would also apply to other developing
countries too

excellent questions from Randall covering a wide range of topics and Bryan
was more than happy to provide comprehensive responses - with an infectious
enthusiasm


On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 10:03 PM, Costello, Rob R <
costello.ro...@edumail.vic.gov.au> wrote:

>  don't know if this has been flagged but just ran across this :
>
> 70 minute interview with Bryan Berry on XO deployment in Nepal
>
> http://twit.tv/floss66
>
> Rob
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[IAEP] 70 minute interview with Bryan Berry on XO deployment in Nepal

[Costello, Rob R]

don't know if this has been flagged but just ran across this :

70 minute interview with Bryan Berry on XO deployment in Nepal

http://twit.tv/floss66

Rob

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