Re: [IAEP] Communities around technology for learning (was: Re: [support-gang] When teaching restrains discovery)

2011-01-22 Thread Edward Cherlin
I have suggested creating a walled garden Web site for all OLPC
children. We can discuss whether teachers should be allowed in, but
definitely no parents. ^_^ They should have their own place to discuss
whatever concerns them. Education, poverty, government corruption,
international e-commerce...

On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 17:32, Christoph Derndorfer
e0425...@student.tuwien.ac.at wrote:
 I finally got around to reading Claudia's article and one of the core
 take-aways for me is that building communities (plural!) which help
 disseminate knowledge about how to use technology for learning is a
 core challenge which hasn't been sufficiently addressed yet.

 To me 2010 did show the first promises of this happening within the OLPC
 / Sugar community with collaboration starting between Plan Ceibal and
 ParaguayEduca, the work of organizations and communities such as
 ceibalJAM and RAP Ceibal, a better integration of Latin American
 contributors in the global community, eKindling's work in the
 Philippines, all the time Bernie, Daniel, Claudia, Walter and others are
 spending sharing with and learning from deployments, events such the
 community summit in San Francisco and the realness summit, the
 olpcMAP.net project, etc.

 And with some OLE Nepal staff having started the year by flying out to
 Rwanda to support the deployment there 2011 is also definitely beginning
 on a high-note.

 Having said that I personally feel that at the moment this network of
 networks (or community of communities, take your pick;-) is wide rather
 than deep - often seemingly ending at people living in capitals or major
 cities, being experienced with FLOSS and/or innovative education, etc.
 rather than reaching and benefiting the children, parents, teachers,
 principals, and administrators who are really the major stakeholders of
 education initiatives.

 I don't have a simple answer on how to deal with this (and who knows, it
 might just be an issue perceived by yours truly) but I think keeping it
 in the back of the head might be a start.

 Cheers,
 Christoph

 Am 20.01.2011 17:24, schrieb Holt:
 Thanks Bastien.  Back on the home front, also check out Claudia Urrea's
 (OLPC Assoc's Chief Learner ;) article today on one-to-one edutech etc:
 http://edutechdebate.org/ict-in-schools/technologies-for-learning-vs-learning-about-technology/

 On 1/20/2011 9:46 AM, Bastien wrote:
 Hi Christoph and all,

 I always enjoy those resources about education, thank you for the
 pointers -- and to everyone for the comments!

 Let me share two recent readings of mine:

 John Maeda : The Laws of Simplicity

    
 http://www.amazon.com/Laws-Simplicity-Design-Technology-Business/dp/0262134721

 My attention got caught when I saw John Maeda referring to Nicholas
 Negroponte in the chapter « Context ».  While discussing the importance
 of focusing, he mentions this advice from NN : Be as an electric bulb,
 not as a lazer ray.  Which I found to be quite an inspiring metaphor in
 the context of learning: let's all learn how to shed light on things as
 bulbs, taking care of others and the context, not as lazer ray, only
 taking care of the subject matter.

 George Steiner - « Éloge de la transmission - Le maître et l'élève »

    
 http://livre.fnac.com/a1904995/George-Steiner-Eloge-de-la-transmission-le-maitre-et-l-eleve

 (Sorry, only published in french.)

 In the debate about instructionisme vs. [constructionisme, project-based
 method, Montessori method, etc.], most people would certainly say that
 Steiner -- George, not Rudolph! -- is rather conservative, expressing
 opinions shared by teachers with a classical-instructionist attitude.
 The title of this book says it all.

 Still, he proposes a definition for what it is to be a master: it is
 someone from which students can always feel the love behind the irony.
 Of course, Socrates comes to mind as a master of both irony and love
 towards its pupils -- I bet Steiner would agree.

 I like this definition.  It is general enough to escape the opposition
 between instructionism / [constructionisme, ...].  But still, I feel
 this definition captures something essential that any teacher could
 fruitfully think about.

 My 2 cents,



 --
 Christoph Derndorfer
 co-editor, www.olpcnews.com
 e-mail: christ...@olpcnews.com
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Re: [IAEP] Communities around technology for learning (was: Re: [support-gang] When teaching restrains discovery)

2011-01-21 Thread Dr. Gerald Ardito
Christoph,

Thanks for your email.

I also got to read Claudia's article. I have been familiar with and inspired
by her research. In fact, in informed my doctoral dissertation, which
focused on the changes to the classroom learning environment through the use
of the XO laptops.

I have been participating in this community for about 2 years. I have
received much help and support and encouragement for which I am grateful.
But I have been reluctant to have my fellow teachers (who are less
technically inclined) to participate because of the frequently highly
technical and operational nature of many conversations.

I have been struggling with trying to include more teachers and students in
these conversations and in this community. I feel that their participation
would benefit many, and add to the depth you discussed.

I am now working with 5 schools in the US using XOs, and will try to find a
way for those teachers and students to participate.

Thanks.
Gerald

On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 5:32 PM, Christoph Derndorfer 
e0425...@student.tuwien.ac.at wrote:

 I finally got around to reading Claudia's article and one of the core
 take-aways for me is that building communities (plural!) which help
 disseminate knowledge about how to use technology for learning is a
 core challenge which hasn't been sufficiently addressed yet.

 To me 2010 did show the first promises of this happening within the OLPC
 / Sugar community with collaboration starting between Plan Ceibal and
 ParaguayEduca, the work of organizations and communities such as
 ceibalJAM and RAP Ceibal, a better integration of Latin American
 contributors in the global community, eKindling's work in the
 Philippines, all the time Bernie, Daniel, Claudia, Walter and others are
 spending sharing with and learning from deployments, events such the
 community summit in San Francisco and the realness summit, the
 olpcMAP.net project, etc.

 And with some OLE Nepal staff having started the year by flying out to
 Rwanda to support the deployment there 2011 is also definitely beginning
 on a high-note.

 Having said that I personally feel that at the moment this network of
 networks (or community of communities, take your pick;-) is wide rather
 than deep - often seemingly ending at people living in capitals or major
 cities, being experienced with FLOSS and/or innovative education, etc.
 rather than reaching and benefiting the children, parents, teachers,
 principals, and administrators who are really the major stakeholders of
 education initiatives.

 I don't have a simple answer on how to deal with this (and who knows, it
 might just be an issue perceived by yours truly) but I think keeping it
 in the back of the head might be a start.

 Cheers,
 Christoph

 Am 20.01.2011 17:24, schrieb Holt:
  Thanks Bastien.  Back on the home front, also check out Claudia Urrea's
  (OLPC Assoc's Chief Learner ;) article today on one-to-one edutech etc:
 
 http://edutechdebate.org/ict-in-schools/technologies-for-learning-vs-learning-about-technology/
 
  On 1/20/2011 9:46 AM, Bastien wrote:
  Hi Christoph and all,
 
  I always enjoy those resources about education, thank you for the
  pointers -- and to everyone for the comments!
 
  Let me share two recent readings of mine:
 
  John Maeda : The Laws of Simplicity
 
 
 http://www.amazon.com/Laws-Simplicity-Design-Technology-Business/dp/0262134721
 
  My attention got caught when I saw John Maeda referring to Nicholas
  Negroponte in the chapter « Context ».  While discussing the importance
  of focusing, he mentions this advice from NN : Be as an electric bulb,
  not as a lazer ray.  Which I found to be quite an inspiring metaphor in
  the context of learning: let's all learn how to shed light on things as
  bulbs, taking care of others and the context, not as lazer ray, only
  taking care of the subject matter.
 
  George Steiner - « Éloge de la transmission - Le maître et l'élève »
 
 
 http://livre.fnac.com/a1904995/George-Steiner-Eloge-de-la-transmission-le-maitre-et-l-eleve
 
  (Sorry, only published in french.)
 
  In the debate about instructionisme vs. [constructionisme, project-based
  method, Montessori method, etc.], most people would certainly say that
  Steiner -- George, not Rudolph! -- is rather conservative, expressing
  opinions shared by teachers with a classical-instructionist attitude.
  The title of this book says it all.
 
  Still, he proposes a definition for what it is to be a master: it is
  someone from which students can always feel the love behind the irony.
  Of course, Socrates comes to mind as a master of both irony and love
  towards its pupils -- I bet Steiner would agree.
 
  I like this definition.  It is general enough to escape the opposition
  between instructionism / [constructionisme, ...].  But still, I feel
  this definition captures something essential that any teacher could
  fruitfully think about.
 
  My 2 cents,
 
 

 --
 Christoph Derndorfer
 co-editor, www.olpcnews.com
 e-mail: 

[IAEP] Communities around technology for learning (was: Re: [support-gang] When teaching restrains discovery)

2011-01-20 Thread Christoph Derndorfer
I finally got around to reading Claudia's article and one of the core
take-aways for me is that building communities (plural!) which help
disseminate knowledge about how to use technology for learning is a
core challenge which hasn't been sufficiently addressed yet.

To me 2010 did show the first promises of this happening within the OLPC
/ Sugar community with collaboration starting between Plan Ceibal and
ParaguayEduca, the work of organizations and communities such as
ceibalJAM and RAP Ceibal, a better integration of Latin American
contributors in the global community, eKindling's work in the
Philippines, all the time Bernie, Daniel, Claudia, Walter and others are
spending sharing with and learning from deployments, events such the
community summit in San Francisco and the realness summit, the
olpcMAP.net project, etc.

And with some OLE Nepal staff having started the year by flying out to
Rwanda to support the deployment there 2011 is also definitely beginning
on a high-note.

Having said that I personally feel that at the moment this network of
networks (or community of communities, take your pick;-) is wide rather
than deep - often seemingly ending at people living in capitals or major
cities, being experienced with FLOSS and/or innovative education, etc.
rather than reaching and benefiting the children, parents, teachers,
principals, and administrators who are really the major stakeholders of
education initiatives.

I don't have a simple answer on how to deal with this (and who knows, it
might just be an issue perceived by yours truly) but I think keeping it
in the back of the head might be a start.

Cheers,
Christoph

Am 20.01.2011 17:24, schrieb Holt:
 Thanks Bastien.  Back on the home front, also check out Claudia Urrea's 
 (OLPC Assoc's Chief Learner ;) article today on one-to-one edutech etc:
 http://edutechdebate.org/ict-in-schools/technologies-for-learning-vs-learning-about-technology/
 
 On 1/20/2011 9:46 AM, Bastien wrote:
 Hi Christoph and all,

 I always enjoy those resources about education, thank you for the
 pointers -- and to everyone for the comments!

 Let me share two recent readings of mine:

 John Maeda : The Laws of Simplicity


 http://www.amazon.com/Laws-Simplicity-Design-Technology-Business/dp/0262134721

 My attention got caught when I saw John Maeda referring to Nicholas
 Negroponte in the chapter « Context ».  While discussing the importance
 of focusing, he mentions this advice from NN : Be as an electric bulb,
 not as a lazer ray.  Which I found to be quite an inspiring metaphor in
 the context of learning: let's all learn how to shed light on things as
 bulbs, taking care of others and the context, not as lazer ray, only
 taking care of the subject matter.

 George Steiner - « Éloge de la transmission - Le maître et l'élève »


 http://livre.fnac.com/a1904995/George-Steiner-Eloge-de-la-transmission-le-maitre-et-l-eleve

 (Sorry, only published in french.)

 In the debate about instructionisme vs. [constructionisme, project-based
 method, Montessori method, etc.], most people would certainly say that
 Steiner -- George, not Rudolph! -- is rather conservative, expressing
 opinions shared by teachers with a classical-instructionist attitude.
 The title of this book says it all.

 Still, he proposes a definition for what it is to be a master: it is
 someone from which students can always feel the love behind the irony.
 Of course, Socrates comes to mind as a master of both irony and love
 towards its pupils -- I bet Steiner would agree.

 I like this definition.  It is general enough to escape the opposition
 between instructionism / [constructionisme, ...].  But still, I feel
 this definition captures something essential that any teacher could
 fruitfully think about.

 My 2 cents,

 

-- 
Christoph Derndorfer
co-editor, www.olpcnews.com
e-mail: christ...@olpcnews.com
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