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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Preparing for the 2017 SLOB Election (Caryl Bigenho)
2. Re: Preparing for the 2017 SLOB Election (Dave Crossland)
3. Re: Preparing for the 2017 SLOB Election (Samson Goddy)
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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2016 15:57:44 -0700
From: Caryl Bigenho <ca...@laptop.org>
To: Dave Crossland <d...@lab6.com>, "iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org"
<iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org>, Samson Goddy <samsongo...@sugarlabs.org>,
"sebast...@fuentelibre.org" <sebast...@fuentelibre.org>
Subject: Re: [IAEP] Preparing for the 2017 SLOB Election
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Hi Folks…
A few minutes away from "Camp Grandma and Grandpa" to check emails (it's nap
time).
This is all well and good, however in the past (when I first joined Sugar Labs) members had to
qualify by actually making some tangible "contribution" (not money) to Sugar Labs. This
could be development of software or hardware, having a small deployment, hosting Sugar Labs and
OLPC events, and the like. We didn't simply say, "Hey, why don't you sign up and be a
member?"
What you are suggesting seems to throw away all criteria for membership, other than a
person saying, "Sure, sign me up."
This cheapens both the organization and discounts the efforts of the many, many
members who have done so much work in the past.
I do think getting the membership list up-to-date in a timely manner is a great idea
and I am glad Dave is volunteering to do the job. The list we were left with for
last year's election was a total mess and the names of many folks, who were long
time contributors, were missing. Hopefully we caught all of them by sending numerous
emails keeping everyone up-to-date on the progress of the election. Many replied
with "Hey, how come I didn't get my ballot yet?
I urge caution in going forward with this. We should end up with, hopefully, a
complete, up-to-date list, with current valid email addresses, of all
contributors to Sugar Labs projects (of any kind) who desire to be members.
Bigger isn't better in this case. Quantity definitely does not mean quality.
Caryl
Now, off to get my nap! Five-year-olds can be exhausting and if she is napping
now, she will go to bed late tonight!
From: d...@lab6.com
Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2016 17:45:12 -0400
To: iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org; samsongo...@sugarlabs.org; ca...@laptop.org;
sebast...@fuentelibre.org
Subject: [IAEP] Preparing for the 2017 SLOB Election
Hi
In today's meeting, Seb mentioned the 2017 SLOB election is coming up fast and
should happen in (early) December.
The election commitee last year was Samson, Caryl, and Sebastian, and Seb
invited me to join, which I am happy to :)
I suggest we start making steady progress and update the community at each
monthly SLOB meeting for the next 4 meetings that remain this year.
http://civs.cs.cornell.edu/cgi-bin/results.pl?id=E_dd38dc6aa11d1a98 says "The top
four candidates will serve 2 year terms and the next three will serve 1 year terms"
and here's the ordered list:
1. Walter Bender2. Lionel Laské3. Adam Holt4. Sameer Verma5. Claudia Urrea6.
Tony Anderson7. Jose Miguel Garcia
Therefore Tony, Jose Miguel, and Claudia's seats will be elected this year.
The first thing I think needs to be done is to get a confirmed list of members.
I can take care of it this month.
Currently the member list is maintained in a Google Docs spreadsheet. Seb
confirmed members were not contacted so far this year; the only activity is to
add some new members to the sheet this year. Walter suggested a mass email to
ask members to confirm/update their member status, and indeed it seems to me
that the #1 purpose of the sheet is to have a list of people to email about
Sugar Labs business.
So I propose that, since at the last meeting a motion to ask members for dinero
passed, and since I have a large list of everyone who ever mailed a SL mailing
list, everyone who every made a wiki account, and this members spreadsheet, I
will mail all these people once to ask if they want to be 'members,' which I
propose to define as having an email registed on a sugarlabs-annouce mailing
list. This way there is no ambiguity that only paying members are members;
instead it can be clear anyone on that mailing list is a member, and no payment
is needed. I think it would be good to promise not to mail this announce list
more than once a calendar month, and to configure the list as a public list
where joining is moderated and so is emailing the list (ie, it can only be made
by authorized persons.) Seb supported this idea.
For people who are not on the list, it seems there is already a procedure defined for how
to deal with them.
https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Labs/Members#Currency_assurance_policy says, "In
order to ensure that the Sugar Labs Membership list is reflective of the current status
of the project and its participants, once a year members will be asked to confirm that
they still wish to be a Sugar Labs Member. If this request bounces, or if a request has
not been replied to after it has been a) resent, b) checked for a more current email
address, and c) six months have passed, the member will be sent a removal notice with an
invitation to reapply." Therefore 6 months after this email, I can send a known-good
list of accounts to remove from the wiki and we'll have a definitive active members list.
So, I volunteer to do the following before the next SLOB meeting:
- I will ask Sam C to set up a new sugar-annou...@lists.sugarlabs.org mailing
list with himself, myself, samson, caryl and seb as list admins.
- I will complete the review of all accounts on the wiki to mark the ones that
look like spammers
- I will make a final 'all possible members' email list
- I will draft the email that asks people to join the announce list and
explains why I am asking them to do this, and a motion to approve the election
email, and share it on the IAEP list for community review
- I will ask SLOBs to post and second the motion
Then in early September I can send the email, and prepare a report with the new
list of members and similarly to before another draft email soliciting board
applications for SLOB to review and approve in the October meeting.
Then in early October I can send that email, perhaps also with the donation
request, and then prepare a final email calling for votes that SLOB can review
and approve in the November meeting.
Then in early November the call for votes can go out, votes can come in, and in
early December the results can be announced.
Cheers
Dave
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2016 19:11:20 -0400
From: Dave Crossland <d...@lab6.com>
To: Caryl Bigenho <ca...@laptop.org>
Cc: "iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org" <iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org>, Samson
Goddy <samsongo...@sugarlabs.org>, "sebast...@fuentelibre.org"
<sebast...@fuentelibre.org>
Subject: Re: [IAEP] Preparing for the 2017 SLOB Election
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Hi
Glad to hear you were able to get some rest :D
On 5 August 2016 at 18:57, Caryl Bigenho <ca...@laptop.org> wrote:
...
qualify by actually making some tangible "contribution" (not money) to
Sugar Labs
[by] development of software or hardware, having a small deployment,
hosting Sugar
Labs and OLPC events
...
We should end up with, hopefully, a complete, up-to-date list, with
current
valid email addresses, of all contributors to Sugar Labs projects (of any
kind)
who desire to be members.
I agree that we could clarify how we determine what level of contribution
counts to make one eligible for membership.
I propose the following are sufficient:
- owning a computer or being part of an organization that owns computers
that regularly use Sugar
- creating a wiki account and making 1 edit to the wiki
- posting to a SL mailing list
- contributing a patch to a sugar software package
- owning a laptop.org or sugarlabs.org email account, now or in the past
What are possible verifiable criteria are possible? Should any of these not
count?
:)
Cheers
Dave
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Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2016 15:09:54 +0100
From: Samson Goddy <samsongo...@hotmail.com>
To: Dave Crossland <d...@lab6.com>, Caryl Bigenho <ca...@laptop.org>
Cc: iaep <iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org>, Samson Goddy
<samsongo...@sugarlabs.org>
Subject: Re: [IAEP] Preparing for the 2017 SLOB Election
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Yeah nice one dave! i will think of more!
From: d...@lab6.com
Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2016 19:11:20 -0400
To: ca...@laptop.org
Subject: Re: [IAEP] Preparing for the 2017 SLOB Election
CC: iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org; samsongo...@sugarlabs.org
Hi
Glad to hear you were able to get some rest :D
On 5 August 2016 at 18:57, Caryl Bigenho <ca...@laptop.org> wrote:
...> qualify by actually making some tangible "contribution" (not money) to Sugar Labs> [by]
development of software or hardware, having a small deployment, hosting Sugar > Labs and OLPC events>
...> We should end up with, hopefully, a complete, up-to-date list, with current > valid email
addresses, of all contributors to Sugar Labs projects (of any kind) > who desire to be members.
I agree that we could clarify how we determine what level of contribution
counts to make one eligible for membership.
I propose the following are sufficient:
- owning a computer or being part of an organization that owns computers that
regularly use Sugar
- creating a wiki account and making 1 edit to the wiki
- posting to a SL mailing list
- contributing a patch to a sugar software package
- owning a laptop.org or sugarlabs.org email account, now or in the past
What are possible verifiable criteria are possible? Should any of these not
count?
:)
CheersDave
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