Re: [IAEP] Motion to adopt the 2016 vision for Sugar Labs

[Dave Crossland]

Hi

I would appreciate public consideration of this motion by each member of
SLOB.

On 3 June 2016 at 02:46, Laura Vargas  wrote:

> I propose to adopt the following statement as the vision statement:
>
> Sugar Labs is a global community where you can learn how to design,
> develop and deploy high-quality Free Software that facilitates
> self-discovery learning experiences and collaboration among young children
> of all continents.  Join us!
>
> I regret the late submission of this proposal, but not until today I
> understood the vision is not about the software but the community. It is a
> summary of what has been written in the wiki, so that it has the ideal
> length of a vision statement while describing our reason to exist and at
> the same time serving as an inspirational quote to be part of this
> adventure. For reference on how to write a vision statement please visit:
> https://www.executestrategy.net/blog/write-good-vision-statement/
>
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Re: [IAEP] Motion to adopt the 2016 vision for Sugar Labs

[Laura Vargas]

;D I guess it was too close before the meeting, so no SLOBs had time to
read...

2016-06-04 5:00 GMT+08:00 Dave Crossland :

>
> On 3 June 2016 at 14:55, Dave Crossland  wrote:
>
>> On 3 June 2016 at 00:46, Laura Vargas  wrote:
>>
>>> I propose to adopt the following statement as the vision statement:
>>>
>>
>> Was this a motion to be voted on?
>
>
> Oh I see, you posted this thread for discussion and then posted your
> motion in thread "Motion to update current SL vision statement" :)
>



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Re: [IAEP] Motion to adopt the 2016 vision for Sugar Labs

[Dave Crossland]

On 3 June 2016 at 14:55, Dave Crossland  wrote:

> On 3 June 2016 at 00:46, Laura Vargas  wrote:
>
>> I propose to adopt the following statement as the vision statement:
>>
>
> Was this a motion to be voted on?


Oh I see, you posted this thread for discussion and then posted your motion
in thread "Motion to update current SL vision statement" :)
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Re: [IAEP] Motion to adopt the 2016 vision for Sugar Labs

[Dave Crossland]

On 3 June 2016 at 00:46, Laura Vargas  wrote:

> I propose to adopt the following statement as the vision statement:
>

Was this a motion to be voted on?
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Re: [IAEP] Motion to adopt the 2016 vision for Sugar Labs

[Laura Vargas]

Dave,

Mission vrs Vision has nothing to do with the length of the statement.

Instead, the difference is about which question does it answer;

Mission shall answer “What do we do? What makes us different?” while
Vision answers
the question, “Where do we aim to be?”

Still, like many author state, they are both often confused and therefore
strategic planning these days usually limits to one unique statement that
covers and answers all questions.

Sean,

 It is the first time I read the current SL vision. I'm glad we have one.
Thanks for pointing it out.

Thank you both for the feedback. I'll send a separate email with the motion
to update current vision statement.

2016-06-04 2:05 GMT+08:00 Dave Crossland :

> On 3 June 2016 at 10:40, Sean DALY  wrote:
> > I can rework a message (perhaps any message) until I am happy with it
>
> Please edit https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Vision_proposal_2016 until
> you are happy with it :D
>
> > What I can't do is invent the direction SL should take.
>
> But we all can! :)
>
> Everyone in the world is empowered to offer their view of the
> direction that SL should take, by editing the wiki, and to take action
> in whatever direction they like, by contributing to the codebase or
> other things on Github.
>
> For example, if some people don't want to work on enabling Activities
> to run on Windows, they just don't, and other people who do want to
> work on this will do.
>
> But marketing can help call attention to the possible things that
> people may be inspired to work on. So perhaps I could say, "the best
> way to invent the future direction is to predict it" ;)
>
> > Things would certainly be easier if SL was marketing-oriented,
> > but FLOSS projects don't "do" that, it's not in their nature.
>
> Please could you explain more about what it means to be
> "marketing-oriented"? :)
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Re: [IAEP] Motion to adopt the 2016 vision for Sugar Labs

[Dave Crossland]

On 3 June 2016 at 10:40, Sean DALY  wrote:
> I can rework a message (perhaps any message) until I am happy with it

Please edit https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Vision_proposal_2016 until
you are happy with it :D

> What I can't do is invent the direction SL should take.

But we all can! :)

Everyone in the world is empowered to offer their view of the
direction that SL should take, by editing the wiki, and to take action
in whatever direction they like, by contributing to the codebase or
other things on Github.

For example, if some people don't want to work on enabling Activities
to run on Windows, they just don't, and other people who do want to
work on this will do.

But marketing can help call attention to the possible things that
people may be inspired to work on. So perhaps I could say, "the best
way to invent the future direction is to predict it" ;)

> Things would certainly be easier if SL was marketing-oriented,
> but FLOSS projects don't "do" that, it's not in their nature.

Please could you explain more about what it means to be "marketing-oriented"? :)
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Re: [IAEP] Motion to adopt the 2016 vision for Sugar Labs

[Dave Crossland]

On 3 June 2016 at 10:40, Sean DALY  wrote:
> Perhaps I should try to put together a decision tree?

That sounds great! I'm curious to see it :D
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Re: [IAEP] Motion to adopt the 2016 vision for Sugar Labs

[Sean DALY]

On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 6:35 PM, Dave Crossland  wrote:

> If you don't draft something, you will not be happy with what is used :)



Um, no... I can rework a message (perhaps any message) until I am happy
with it. What I can't do is invent the direction SL should take. Things
would certainly be easier if SL was marketing-oriented, but FLOSS projects
don't "do" that, it's not in their nature.

Perhaps I should try to put together a decision tree?

Sean
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Re: [IAEP] Motion to adopt the 2016 vision for Sugar Labs

[Dave Crossland]

On 3 June 2016 at 10:31, Sean DALY  wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 5:56 PM, Dave Crossland  wrote:
>>
>> Please draft a vision statement you would be happy with.
>
> [No]

If you don't draft something, you will not be happy with what is used :)
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Re: [IAEP] Motion to adopt the 2016 vision for Sugar Labs

[Sean DALY]

On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 5:56 PM, Dave Crossland  wrote:

> Please draft a vision statement you would be happy with.



I have (no shortage of) ideas, and experience in crafting text. But our
vision is more than a marketer's spin (and heaven knows I've been guilty of
spinning in the past despite my best intentions). Rather, the community
needs to get behind a common vision. This is not as easy as it sounds. For
example, many of my fine ideas involve assigning drudge IT work to other
volunteers. That doesn't work. I happen to agree with you that we should
look at Windows as a platform due to its desktop/laptop ubiquity. However
others don't feel the same way. I think web-based is a clear forward path.
However that shouldn't mean the historical platform should be stopped.
Recently I cited C. Scott Ananian's suggestion concerning the essence of
the Sugar experience. Agreement on what that is would help resolve what our
technical platforms need to offer - Sugarizer as a true platform, or demo
of the computer-based platform?

I think it would be really great if we could try to offer XO-4s somehow - a
very large order would have fabulous side effects such as silencing
longtime naysayers and encouraging component manufacturers to stay current.
It's a very big idea, but I for one could get behind it.

At the same time, Sugarizer is great for introducing Sugar's uniqueness to
prescriptors (parents/teachers) and children, and in my view offers a path
to handheld tactile devices which have swept away desktops and laptops in
schools.

Sean.
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Re: [IAEP] Motion to adopt the 2016 vision for Sugar Labs

[Dave Crossland]

Hi Sean

Please draft a vision statement you would be happy with.

Cheers
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Re: [IAEP] Motion to adopt the 2016 vision for Sugar Labs

[Sean DALY]

On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 5:42 PM, Tony Anderson  wrote:

> I believe Sugar is intended to enable a computer to provide enhanced
> educational opportunities; especially to those who have limited access to
> the Internet. One goal of Sugar is to bring to reality the educational
> concepts of Seymour Papert and Alan Kay.
>


yes - "Bringing learning to children everywhere with technology" or
suchlike.

Our mission statement is not my main concern... it's our vision statement,
the short "how & what" explanation which will invite supporters.

Sean
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Re: [IAEP] Motion to adopt the 2016 vision for Sugar Labs

[Sean DALY]

On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 4:57 PM, Dave Crossland  wrote:

> To be a welcoming global community where anyone can learn how to
> develop high-quality libre software that facilitates learning through
> self-discovery and collaboration among young children of all
> continents, and to make that software easily available to learners and
> teachers.
>


So our mission is to nicely help people to become friendly developers, then
make it available as an afterthought?

We need to take a moral high ground - we are involved in education,
bridging the digital divide.

FYI here is our existing mission statement:

About Sugar Labs(R): Sugar Labs(R) is a volunteer-driven member project of
Software Freedom Conservancy, a nonprofit corporation. Originally part of
the One Laptop Per Child project, Sugar Labs coordinates volunteers around
the world who are passionate about providing educational opportunities to
children through the Sugar Learning Platform. Sugar Labs(R) is supported by
donations and is seeking funding to accelerate development.


Sean
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Re: [IAEP] Motion to adopt the 2016 vision for Sugar Labs

[Tony Anderson]

I believe Sugar is intended to enable a computer to provide enhanced 
educational opportunities; especially to those who have limited access to
the Internet. One goal of Sugar is to bring to reality the educational 
concepts of Seymour Papert and Alan Kay.


Tony

On 06/03/2016 11:28 AM, iaep-requ...@lists.sugarlabs.org wrote:

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Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2016 08:57:29 -0600
From: Dave Crossland
To: Laura Vargas
Cc: iaep, SLOBs
Subject: Re: [IAEP] Motion to adopt the 2016 vision for Sugar Labs
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Hi

I understood that the one-liner statement is a 'mission statement,'
and the 'vision statement' is the longer text that expresses the
details implied by the mission, the high level goals, and more
specific values.

The article you mention,
https://www.executestrategy.net/blog/write-good-vision-statement  , has
a good 'funnel' diagram showing this, with blocks for "values."

Here's a nice list of non profit mission statements:
https://topnonprofits.com/examples/nonprofit-mission-statements/

So I propose to adopt the following statement as the mission
statement, starting from your text and taking Sean's comments into
account:

To be a welcoming global community where anyone can learn how to
develop high-quality libre software that facilitates learning through
self-discovery and collaboration among young children of all
continents, and to make that software easily available to learners and
teachers.

Cheers
Dave


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Re: [IAEP] Motion to adopt the 2016 vision for Sugar Labs

[Dave Crossland]

Hi

I understood that the one-liner statement is a 'mission statement,'
and the 'vision statement' is the longer text that expresses the
details implied by the mission, the high level goals, and more
specific values.

The article you mention,
https://www.executestrategy.net/blog/write-good-vision-statement , has
a good 'funnel' diagram showing this, with blocks for "values."

Here's a nice list of non profit mission statements:
https://topnonprofits.com/examples/nonprofit-mission-statements/

So I propose to adopt the following statement as the mission
statement, starting from your text and taking Sean's comments into
account:

To be a welcoming global community where anyone can learn how to
develop high-quality libre software that facilitates learning through
self-discovery and collaboration among young children of all
continents, and to make that software easily available to learners and
teachers.

Cheers
Dave
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Re: [IAEP] Motion to adopt the 2016 vision for Sugar Labs

[Sean DALY]

Hi Laura

My issue with this statement is that it is reductionist: "SL is a community
for learning about software". Which is certainly true, but fundamentally we
offer software, not a learning service.

Our vision should be a mission (to develop high-quality software for
children worldwide) and an overarching goal (making our software easily
available to learners and teachers) and an indicator of how we plan to do
this (web-based, multi-platform, XO-4, ...).

Project recruitment, the grocery list of goals, fundraising, pointing to
past successes, how we will adapt to a very different IT context from 2007,
all flow from an easy-to-understand vision statement which most accurately
tells the story concisely.

Sean




On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 8:46 AM, Laura Vargas  wrote:

> I propose to adopt the following statement as the vision statement:
>
> Sugar Labs is a global community where you can learn how to design,
> develop and deploy high-quality Free Software that facilitates
> self-discovery learning experiences and collaboration among young children
> of all continents.  Join us!
>
> I regret the late submission of this proposal, but not until today I
> understood the vision is not about the software but the community. It is a
> summary of what has been written in the wiki, so that it has the ideal
> length of a vision statement while describing our reason to exist and at
> the same time serving as an inspirational quote to be part of this
> adventure. For reference on how to write a vision statement please visit:
> https://www.executestrategy.net/blog/write-good-vision-statement/
>
> --
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[IAEP] Motion to adopt the 2016 vision for Sugar Labs

[Laura Vargas]

I propose to adopt the following statement as the vision statement:

Sugar Labs is a global community where you can learn how to design, develop
and deploy high-quality Free Software that facilitates self-discovery
learning experiences and collaboration among young children of all
continents.  Join us!

I regret the late submission of this proposal, but not until today I
understood the vision is not about the software but the community. It is a
summary of what has been written in the wiki, so that it has the ideal
length of a vision statement while describing our reason to exist and at
the same time serving as an inspirational quote to be part of this
adventure. For reference on how to write a vision statement please visit:
https://www.executestrategy.net/blog/write-good-vision-statement/

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