Re: [IAEP] OT: Networking challenges in developing countries
You might find Carla's thesis of interest: http://web.media.mit.edu/~carlagm/e_radio/thesis.html -walter On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 12:21 AM, fors...@ozonline.com.au wrote: Another approach to third world networks is HF radio http://www.peoplefirst.net.sb/general/PFnet.htm People First Network is a rural networking project that promotes rural development and peace building by enabling affordable and sustainable rural connectivity and facilitating information exchange between stakeholders and communities across the Solomon Islands. It has established a growing rural communications system based on wireless email networking, in the HF band, and deployed with full community ownership. ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] OT: Networking challenges in developing countries
Another approach to third world networks is HF radio http://www.peoplefirst.net.sb/general/PFnet.htm People First Network is a rural networking project that promotes rural development and peace building by enabling affordable and sustainable rural connectivity and facilitating information exchange between stakeholders and communities across the Solomon Islands. It has established a growing rural communications system based on wireless email networking, in the HF band, and deployed with full community ownership. ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] OT: Networking challenges in developing countries
On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 04:22:14PM -0700, Edward Cherlin wrote: They are in Cambridge. Why don't you call them? I'll ping them on behalf of Earth Treasury. Let me know if you find any more like them. Thanks for your answers, Walter and Edward! I've written an email to First Mile Solutions, waiting for their reply now. Their web page already contained some pointers and even some material (photos and descriptions of Sneakernet equipment) I can use. On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 04:18:16PM -0700, Edward Cherlin wrote: The title of the original proposal (given to me) was Disruptive Tolerant Networking for the Amazonas (**). Sneakernet is the correct geek term. I see no point in creating yet more euphemisms, especially bafflegab euphemisms. It's the original title, not mine. :) I can't help you with the literature, but I can help imagine a solution, and a social movement to get it working, with historical examples. Would be interesting as well, though I also need a certain amount of scientific work (i.e. referencing and quoting other papers). Do you operate a proxy for intermittent internet access (like wwwoffle)? Resumable data transfers, such as wget? Torrenting? FidoNet? It's still in everyday use. I couldn't help snickering at some part of the topic presentation, since it was all presented as brand-new. I've run a Fido node myself for several years some time ago. :) References to old solutions will be part of my talk as well, of course. CU Sascha -- http://sascha.silbe.org/ http://www.infra-silbe.de/ signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] OT: Networking challenges in developing countries
Hi! Sorry for the slightly off-topic posting, but as some deployments might actually be facing these issues I thought it might be worth a try. As part of my study, I'm going to give a talk on networking challenges and possible solutions in developing countries (*). The title of the original proposal (given to me) was Disruptive Tolerant Networking for the Amazonas (**). I'm looking for any reference (english only, though) on non-technological (or rather not mainly technological - social, legal, organisational, anything) aspects of the networking challenges (esp., but not only non-realtime access) and their solutions. Do you do data transport via USB stick from village to village? Do you operate a proxy for intermittent internet access (like wwwoffle)? Any other kind of high latency data transfer or communication? If so, I'd be very interested in hearing details about it. Tell me your story! (*) In need of a better term. It's more about areas without established / stable networking infrastructure. (**) Also known as Delay Tolerant Networking. CU Sascha -- http://sascha.silbe.org/ http://www.infra-silbe.de/ signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] OT: Networking challenges in developing countries
On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 12:11 PM, Sascha Silbe sascha-ml-ui-sugar-i...@silbe.org wrote: Hi! Sorry for the slightly off-topic posting, but as some deployments might actually be facing these issues I thought it might be worth a try. As part of my study, I'm going to give a talk on networking challenges and possible solutions in developing countries (*). A lot of effort has gone into finding an alternative euphemism, but the problem is not in the words. It is in the global tolerance of neglect, corruption, and outright repression that goes on there. These will rapidly, probably immediately, contaminate any phrase you can use. The title of the original proposal (given to me) was Disruptive Tolerant Networking for the Amazonas (**). Sneakernet is the correct geek term. I see no point in creating yet more euphemisms, especially bafflegab euphemisms. Sneakernet is at least mildly humorous. Bicyclenet? Sandalnet? Barefootnet? You can easily calculate the effective bandwidth of each. I'm looking for any reference (english only, though) on non-technological (or rather not mainly technological - social, legal, organisational, anything) aspects of the networking challenges (esp., but not only non-realtime access) and their solutions. I can't help you with the literature, but I can help imagine a solution, and a social movement to get it working, with historical examples. Do you do data transport via USB stick from village to village? USB or other flash device, CD...Not DVD or removable hard drive in general. What else is there? Do you operate a proxy for intermittent internet access (like wwwoffle)? Resumable data transfers, such as wget? Torrenting? FidoNet? It's still in everyday use. Any other kind of high latency data transfer or communication? If so, I'd be very interested in hearing details about it. Tell me your story! (*) In need of a better term. It's more about areas without established / stable networking infrastructure. (**) Also known as Delay Tolerant Networking. CU Sascha -- http://sascha.silbe.org/ http://www.infra-silbe.de/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJJ72vuAAoJELpz82VMF3DaeyMH/3RK1yyxA89WfY6UU4GR3Mfj QYi65d2rWsuMuj0+jlttwP6zCYlJrztF0BDYsD+Whw5Mbox+1NklT+4WgTMrMjIg 6AlCdYtGxVj1FJvlWvLTvwjFDgJiDK4WI8aJbz5Bto9U+G0eBTSanc91IXgDb4im QZWJZvVbwq+7vOmP+fmuVEvZJS4fi0R7VK+GU28Sjs0zQQG7ItmOOZKc2PgGBRl0 WvCwymHEFQahsH/ZQichdokmZpLituYPZsjTATSArYjHhEzUH2wAHcNMzfQbpHal s6IsMDVLD94781mmxT206Hp6E7wnyZL+bMTiqjA5fXy8TQUoVz6kDnBjvTFgoxI= =Jhue -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- Silent Thunder (默雷/धर्ममेघशब्दगर्ज/دھرممیگھشبدگر ج) is my name And Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, The Truth my destination. http://earthtreasury.org/worknet (Edward Mokurai Cherlin) ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
