Re: [IAEP] SUGAR DESKTOP on Intel Mac's an alternate solution.
Lucian; My experience has been that a VM Appliance with player is quite a bit faster and needs less computer resources than Virtual Box OSE. I have only been working on Ubuntu (9.04 8.04), Fedora 10,11 windows XP as host OS so far. I have made USB sticks with a very small 1 gb Appliance and the .iso file and thus have a USB stick that is the equivalent of a live CD. I run them with the Boot stick of Ubuntu 9.04 live with VMPlayer installed.(Detailed in the wiki) http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/VMware The boot stick, (or an installed VMPlayer )starts a 2nd USB stick containing the SUGAR appliance The advantage: The VMPlayer can be left running without involving the host computer at all... And different students can plug their sticks in for their session on it. they also can go home and run it on their PC's without jeopardizing the integrity of the host PS's The situation /should/ be the same on an Intel Mac : / Cordially; Tom Gilliard Bend Oregon USA Lucian Branescu wrote: Works great with VirtualBox, I don't know about VMware. 2009/5/24 Thomas C Gilliard satel...@bendbroadband.com: Hi; There is an possible alternate, interim, solution to let Intel Macs run SUGAR. *Emulation of Fedora 11 SUGAR DESKTOP Appliances.* The procedures to make the Appliances and boot sticks are documented in the wiki: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/VMware The VMware web site to get the MAC program fusion and how to convert Linux and Windows Appliances to Mac Fusion format. http://www.vmware.com/products/fusion/ http://www.vmware.com/download/fusion/windows_to_mac.html I do not have an Intel Mac so I have not tried this yet, but the VMPlayer appliances work very well on Windows and Linux PC's that have a difficult time booting from Soas. Tom Gilliard ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] SUGAR DESKTOP on Intel Mac's an alternate solution.
On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 8:42 PM, Thomas C Gilliard satel...@bendbroadband.com wrote: Lucian; My experience has been that a VM Appliance with player is quite a bit faster and needs less computer resources than Virtual Box OSE. VMWare Player does not exist for OS X so that is not an option. Virtualbox is the only free option that performs acceptably on Windows and OS X Hosts right now. Virtualbox can boot the appliance, I think, with some fiddling around. Dave I have only been working on Ubuntu (9.04 8.04), Fedora 10,11 windows XP as host OS so far. I have made USB sticks with a very small 1 gb Appliance and the .iso file and thus have a USB stick that is the equivalent of a live CD. I run them with the Boot stick of Ubuntu 9.04 live with VMPlayer installed.(Detailed in the wiki) http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/VMware The boot stick, (or an installed VMPlayer )starts a 2nd USB stick containing the SUGAR appliance The advantage: The VMPlayer can be left running without involving the host computer at all... And different students can plug their sticks in for their session on it. they also can go home and run it on their PC's without jeopardizing the integrity of the host PS's The situation *should* be the same on an Intel Mac : / Cordially; Tom Gilliard Bend Oregon USA Lucian Branescu wrote: Works great with VirtualBox, I don't know about VMware. 2009/5/24 Thomas C Gilliard satel...@bendbroadband.com satel...@bendbroadband.com: Hi; There is an possible alternate, interim, solution to let Intel Macs run SUGAR. *Emulation of Fedora 11 SUGAR DESKTOP Appliances.* The procedures to make the Appliances and boot sticks are documented in the wiki: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/VMware The VMware web site to get the MAC program fusion and how to convert Linux and Windows Appliances to Mac Fusion format. http://www.vmware.com/products/fusion/http://www.vmware.com/download/fusion/windows_to_mac.html I do not have an Intel Mac so I have not tried this yet, but the VMPlayer appliances work very well on Windows and Linux PC's that have a difficult time booting from Soas. Tom Gilliard ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!)i...@lists.sugarlabs.orghttp://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- Dave Bauer d...@solutiongrove.com http://www.solutiongrove.com ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] SUGAR DESKTOP on Intel Mac's an alternate solution.
No fiddling required actually. Click import, choose file, boot. VirtualBox is very fast with VT-x and AMD-V. 2009/5/25 Dave Bauer dave.ba...@gmail.com: On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 8:42 PM, Thomas C Gilliard satel...@bendbroadband.com wrote: Lucian; My experience has been that a VM Appliance with player is quite a bit faster and needs less computer resources than Virtual Box OSE. VMWare Player does not exist for OS X so that is not an option. Virtualbox is the only free option that performs acceptably on Windows and OS X Hosts right now. Virtualbox can boot the appliance, I think, with some fiddling around. Dave I have only been working on Ubuntu (9.04 8.04), Fedora 10,11 windows XP as host OS so far. I have made USB sticks with a very small 1 gb Appliance and the .iso file and thus have a USB stick that is the equivalent of a live CD. I run them with the Boot stick of Ubuntu 9.04 live with VMPlayer installed.(Detailed in the wiki) http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/VMware The boot stick, (or an installed VMPlayer )starts a 2nd USB stick containing the SUGAR appliance The advantage: The VMPlayer can be left running without involving the host computer at all... And different students can plug their sticks in for their session on it. they also can go home and run it on their PC's without jeopardizing the integrity of the host PS's The situation should be the same on an Intel Mac : / Cordially; Tom Gilliard Bend Oregon USA Lucian Branescu wrote: Works great with VirtualBox, I don't know about VMware. 2009/5/24 Thomas C Gilliard satel...@bendbroadband.com: Hi; There is an possible alternate, interim, solution to let Intel Macs run SUGAR. *Emulation of Fedora 11 SUGAR DESKTOP Appliances.* The procedures to make the Appliances and boot sticks are documented in the wiki: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/VMware The VMware web site to get the MAC program fusion and how to convert Linux and Windows Appliances to Mac Fusion format. http://www.vmware.com/products/fusion/ http://www.vmware.com/download/fusion/windows_to_mac.html I do not have an Intel Mac so I have not tried this yet, but the VMPlayer appliances work very well on Windows and Linux PC's that have a difficult time booting from Soas. Tom Gilliard ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- Dave Bauer d...@solutiongrove.com http://www.solutiongrove.com ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] SUGAR DESKTOP on Intel Mac's an alternate solution.
Hi; There is an possible alternate, interim, solution to let Intel Macs run SUGAR. *Emulation of Fedora 11 SUGAR DESKTOP Appliances.* The procedures to make the Appliances and boot sticks are documented in the wiki: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/VMware The VMware web site to get the MAC program fusion and how to convert Linux and Windows Appliances to Mac Fusion format. http://www.vmware.com/products/fusion/ http://www.vmware.com/download/fusion/windows_to_mac.html I do not have an Intel Mac so I have not tried this yet, but the VMPlayer appliances work very well on Windows and Linux PC's that have a difficult time booting from Soas. Tom Gilliard ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] SUGAR DESKTOP on Intel Mac's an alternate solution.
The VirtualBox procedure is reliable, I use that and works fine with the new version of VirtualBox I was prompted to install this week. I believe ars technica took their screenshots of Sugar running in VirtualBox on a Mac. Until such a time as we can propose a pancke-button one-click installer for the VirtualBox solution, Sugar on a Stick with a single icon to click on looks more promising in terms of ease of use. Sean On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 2:16 AM, Lucian Branescu lucian.brane...@gmail.com wrote: Works great with VirtualBox, I don't know about VMware. 2009/5/24 Thomas C Gilliard satel...@bendbroadband.com: Hi; There is an possible alternate, interim, solution to let Intel Macs run SUGAR. *Emulation of Fedora 11 SUGAR DESKTOP Appliances.* The procedures to make the Appliances and boot sticks are documented in the wiki: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/VMware The VMware web site to get the MAC program fusion and how to convert Linux and Windows Appliances to Mac Fusion format. http://www.vmware.com/products/fusion/ http://www.vmware.com/download/fusion/windows_to_mac.html I do not have an Intel Mac so I have not tried this yet, but the VMPlayer appliances work very well on Windows and Linux PC's that have a difficult time booting from Soas. Tom Gilliard ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
