[IAEP] branding usbdrives ==> Re: Topics & deliverables from Marketing IRC meeting 03-10-2009: Countdown to 0.84 launch! Exceptional meeting today (Friday) at 1600 UTC
On Fri, 2009-03-13 at 15:18 +0100, Sean DALY wrote: > 5. First 100 SoaS Sugar Labs branded USB sticks > Little advancement on this from me, I'm only too aware the timeframe > is shrinking but I am very occupied with the media launch, I will try > to move forward on choosing a supplier this weekend. I don't have the > purple-background inverted logo mockup from Christian yet, but he is > also working hard on the media launch... > I have been flashing about 30 drives/sd cards nowand I ordered 30 more. And I got sponsoring for 20's sticks now for my project. I checked to get branded sticks. but it more expensive. I is a lot cheaper to buy cheapest sticks you can find and brand these manually. To brand sticks these logo's could be used: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Image:Logo_alt_1.png or for small sticks/sd card http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/images/thumb/7/71/Logo_alt_2.png/240px-Logo_alt_2.png Would it be an idea to support local sellers / supporters with stickers to put on these stick/cards? In this way local group can have thier branded sticks. If this is a good idea I could make it proposal. However I can imagian SugarLas wants it own branded/fabriked sticks to keep thing more control. (I that case I would like order a couple.) Just let me know, 2ct, Marten -- Marten Vijn linux 2.0.18 OpenBSD 3.6 FreeBSD 4.6 http://martenvijn.nl http://opencommunitycamp.org http://wifisoft.org ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] branding usbdrives ==> Re: Topics & deliverables from Marketing IRC meeting 03-10-2009: Countdown to 0.84 launch! Exceptional meeting today (Friday) at 1600 UTC
On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 10:23 AM, Marten Vijn wrote: > On Fri, 2009-03-13 at 15:18 +0100, Sean DALY wrote: >> 5. First 100 SoaS Sugar Labs branded USB sticks >> Little advancement on this from me, I'm only too aware the timeframe >> is shrinking but I am very occupied with the media launch, I will try >> to move forward on choosing a supplier this weekend. I don't have the >> purple-background inverted logo mockup from Christian yet, but he is >> also working hard on the media launch... >> > I have been flashing about 30 drives/sd cards nowand I ordered 30 > more. > > And I got sponsoring for 20's sticks now for my project. > > > I checked to get branded sticks. but it more expensive. I is a lot > cheaper to buy cheapest sticks you can find and brand these manually. > > > To brand sticks these logo's could be used: > > http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Image:Logo_alt_1.png > > or for small sticks/sd card > > http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/images/thumb/7/71/Logo_alt_2.png/240px-Logo_alt_2.png > > > Would it be an idea to support local sellers / supporters with stickers > to put on these stick/cards? In this way local group can have thier > branded sticks. > > If this is a good idea I could make it proposal. > > However I can imagian SugarLas wants it own branded/fabriked sticks to > keep thing more control. (I that case I would like order a couple.) We will have to explore this further. But I don't believe Sugar Labs is interested in controlling any thing:( Instead, Sugar Labs would like to leverage the Sugar and Sugar Labs brands as 'marks of quality' so that when our partners, like you, sell products, their customers know they are getting quality educational products. This will require some degree of control to limit the mis-use of sugar in substandard products. david > Just let me know, > > 2ct, > > Marten > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Marten Vijn > linux 2.0.18 OpenBSD 3.6 FreeBSD 4.6 > http://martenvijn.nl > http://opencommunitycamp.org > http://wifisoft.org > > > ___ > IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) > IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep > ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] branding usbdrives ==> Re: Topics & deliverables from Marketing IRC meeting 03-10-2009: Countdown to 0.84 launch! Exceptional meeting today (Friday) at 1600 UTC
Marten, there's no problem for me if you want to put stickers on sticks, just please be sure to use the official Sugar Labs logo (http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Logo). Right now we prefer "Sugar Labs" instead of "Sugar" as the former googles us much better than the latter. Sugar Labs is a trademarked logo and some printing houses may want to verify your right to reprint, I can of course help you with that if the question is asked. I'm ordering the first batch of 100 branded sticks for FOSSVT (http://www.ncose.org) but I don't have an objection to local Labs and partners doing their own sticks if the logo guidelines are respected. if you have the possibility to send me one of the sticks, I'd appreciate it, if not a good photo would be fine. If you can, please choose sticks with LED activity indicators, this will help users avoid losing data. That said, this policy may change with the arrival of Sugar on a Stick v1.0 in a few months, so it would be best to check back as we approach that. By the way, I'm looking for someone to help translate our press release in Dutch, would you or anyone you know be able to help me with that? thanks a lot Sean Marketing Coordinator On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 4:49 PM, David Farning wrote: > On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 10:23 AM, Marten Vijn wrote: >> On Fri, 2009-03-13 at 15:18 +0100, Sean DALY wrote: >>> 5. First 100 SoaS Sugar Labs branded USB sticks >>> Little advancement on this from me, I'm only too aware the timeframe >>> is shrinking but I am very occupied with the media launch, I will try >>> to move forward on choosing a supplier this weekend. I don't have the >>> purple-background inverted logo mockup from Christian yet, but he is >>> also working hard on the media launch... >>> >> I have been flashing about 30 drives/sd cards nowand I ordered 30 >> more. >> >> And I got sponsoring for 20's sticks now for my project. >> >> >> I checked to get branded sticks. but it more expensive. I is a lot >> cheaper to buy cheapest sticks you can find and brand these manually. >> >> >> To brand sticks these logo's could be used: >> >> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Image:Logo_alt_1.png >> >> or for small sticks/sd card >> >> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/images/thumb/7/71/Logo_alt_2.png/240px-Logo_alt_2.png >> >> >> Would it be an idea to support local sellers / supporters with stickers >> to put on these stick/cards? In this way local group can have thier >> branded sticks. >> >> If this is a good idea I could make it proposal. >> >> However I can imagian SugarLas wants it own branded/fabriked sticks to >> keep thing more control. (I that case I would like order a couple.) > > We will have to explore this further. > > But I don't believe Sugar Labs is interested in controlling any thing:( > > Instead, Sugar Labs would like to leverage the Sugar and Sugar Labs > brands as 'marks of quality' so that when our partners, like you, sell > products, their customers know they are getting quality educational > products. > > This will require some degree of control to limit the mis-use of sugar > in substandard products. > > david > >> Just let me know, >> >> 2ct, >> >> Marten >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Marten Vijn >> linux 2.0.18 OpenBSD 3.6 FreeBSD 4.6 >> http://martenvijn.nl >> http://opencommunitycamp.org >> http://wifisoft.org >> >> >> ___ >> IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) >> IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org >> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep >> > ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] branding usbdrives ==> Re: Topics & deliverables from Marketing IRC meeting 03-10-2009: Countdown to 0.84 launch! Exceptional meeting today (Friday) at 1600 UTC
On Wed, 2009-03-18 at 18:01 +0100, Sean DALY wrote: I was busy for a week in Amsterdam. > if you have the possibility to send me one of the sticks, I'd > appreciate it, if not a good photo would be fine. http://martenvijn.nl/trac/wiki/soas > If you can, please choose sticks with LED activity indicators, this > will help users avoid losing data. > > That said, this policy may change with the arrival of Sugar on a Stick > v1.0 in a few months, so it would be best to check back as we approach > that. oke > > By the way, I'm looking for someone to help translate our press > release in Dutch, would you or anyone you know be able to help me with > that? Well I can give it a try, can you send me the text? Languages are not my best skills. Kind regards, Marten > thanks a lot > > Sean > Marketing Coordinator > > > > On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 4:49 PM, David Farning wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 10:23 AM, Marten Vijn wrote: > >> On Fri, 2009-03-13 at 15:18 +0100, Sean DALY wrote: > >>> 5. First 100 SoaS Sugar Labs branded USB sticks > >>> Little advancement on this from me, I'm only too aware the timeframe > >>> is shrinking but I am very occupied with the media launch, I will try > >>> to move forward on choosing a supplier this weekend. I don't have the > >>> purple-background inverted logo mockup from Christian yet, but he is > >>> also working hard on the media launch... > >>> > >> I have been flashing about 30 drives/sd cards nowand I ordered 30 > >> more. > >> > >> And I got sponsoring for 20's sticks now for my project. > >> > >> > >> I checked to get branded sticks. but it more expensive. I is a lot > >> cheaper to buy cheapest sticks you can find and brand these manually. > >> > >> > >> To brand sticks these logo's could be used: > >> > >> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Image:Logo_alt_1.png > >> > >> or for small sticks/sd card > >> > >> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/images/thumb/7/71/Logo_alt_2.png/240px-Logo_alt_2.png > >> > >> > >> Would it be an idea to support local sellers / supporters with stickers > >> to put on these stick/cards? In this way local group can have thier > >> branded sticks. > >> > >> If this is a good idea I could make it proposal. > >> > >> However I can imagian SugarLas wants it own branded/fabriked sticks to > >> keep thing more control. (I that case I would like order a couple.) > > > > We will have to explore this further. > > > > But I don't believe Sugar Labs is interested in controlling any thing:( > > > > Instead, Sugar Labs would like to leverage the Sugar and Sugar Labs > > brands as 'marks of quality' so that when our partners, like you, sell > > products, their customers know they are getting quality educational > > products. > > > > This will require some degree of control to limit the mis-use of sugar > > in substandard products. > > > > david > > > >> Just let me know, > >> > >> 2ct, > >> > >> Marten > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Marten Vijn > >> linux 2.0.18 OpenBSD 3.6 FreeBSD 4.6 > >> http://martenvijn.nl > >> http://opencommunitycamp.org > >> http://wifisoft.org > >> > >> > >> ___ > >> IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) > >> IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org > >> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep > >> > > > ___ > IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) > IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- http://martenvijn.nl Marten Vijn http://martenvijn.nl/trac/wiki/soas Sugar on a Stick http://bsd.wifisoft.org/nek/ The Network Event Kit http://har2009.org 13th-16th August http://opencommunitycamp.org 26th Jul - 2nd August ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] branding usbdrives ==> Re: Topics & deliverables from Marketing IRC meeting 03-10-2009: Countdown to 0.84 launch! Exceptional meeting today (Friday) at 1600 UTC
Thanks Marten The PDFs in English, French, Spanish, German are on this page: http://www.sugarlabs.org/press the first page of each PDF has the main text and the second page info about Sugar Labs, etc. Any help greatly appreciated. Thanks. Sean On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 11:31 PM, Marten Vijn wrote: > On Wed, 2009-03-18 at 18:01 +0100, Sean DALY wrote: > > I was busy for a week in Amsterdam. > > >> if you have the possibility to send me one of the sticks, I'd >> appreciate it, if not a good photo would be fine. > > http://martenvijn.nl/trac/wiki/soas > > > >> If you can, please choose sticks with LED activity indicators, this >> will help users avoid losing data. >> >> That said, this policy may change with the arrival of Sugar on a Stick >> v1.0 in a few months, so it would be best to check back as we approach >> that. > oke >> >> By the way, I'm looking for someone to help translate our press >> release in Dutch, would you or anyone you know be able to help me with >> that? > > Well I can give it a try, can you send me the text? Languages are not my > best skills. > > Kind regards, > Marten > > > >> thanks a lot >> >> Sean >> Marketing Coordinator >> >> >> >> On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 4:49 PM, David Farning >> wrote: >> > On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 10:23 AM, Marten Vijn wrote: >> >> On Fri, 2009-03-13 at 15:18 +0100, Sean DALY wrote: >> >>> 5. First 100 SoaS Sugar Labs branded USB sticks >> >>> Little advancement on this from me, I'm only too aware the timeframe >> >>> is shrinking but I am very occupied with the media launch, I will try >> >>> to move forward on choosing a supplier this weekend. I don't have the >> >>> purple-background inverted logo mockup from Christian yet, but he is >> >>> also working hard on the media launch... >> >>> >> >> I have been flashing about 30 drives/sd cards nowand I ordered 30 >> >> more. >> >> >> >> And I got sponsoring for 20's sticks now for my project. >> >> >> >> >> >> I checked to get branded sticks. but it more expensive. I is a lot >> >> cheaper to buy cheapest sticks you can find and brand these manually. >> >> >> >> >> >> To brand sticks these logo's could be used: >> >> >> >> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Image:Logo_alt_1.png >> >> >> >> or for small sticks/sd card >> >> >> >> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/images/thumb/7/71/Logo_alt_2.png/240px-Logo_alt_2.png >> >> >> >> >> >> Would it be an idea to support local sellers / supporters with stickers >> >> to put on these stick/cards? In this way local group can have thier >> >> branded sticks. >> >> >> >> If this is a good idea I could make it proposal. >> >> >> >> However I can imagian SugarLas wants it own branded/fabriked sticks to >> >> keep thing more control. (I that case I would like order a couple.) >> > >> > We will have to explore this further. >> > >> > But I don't believe Sugar Labs is interested in controlling any thing:( >> > >> > Instead, Sugar Labs would like to leverage the Sugar and Sugar Labs >> > brands as 'marks of quality' so that when our partners, like you, sell >> > products, their customers know they are getting quality educational >> > products. >> > >> > This will require some degree of control to limit the mis-use of sugar >> > in substandard products. >> > >> > david >> > >> >> Just let me know, >> >> >> >> 2ct, >> >> >> >> Marten >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Marten Vijn >> >> linux 2.0.18 OpenBSD 3.6 FreeBSD 4.6 >> >> http://martenvijn.nl >> >> http://opencommunitycamp.org >> >> http://wifisoft.org >> >> >> >> >> >> ___ >> >> IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) >> >> IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org >> >> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep >> >> >> > >> ___ >> IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) >> IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org >> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep > -- > http://martenvijn.nl Marten Vijn > http://martenvijn.nl/trac/wiki/soas Sugar on a Stick > http://bsd.wifisoft.org/nek/ The Network Event Kit > http://har2009.org 13th-16th August > http://opencommunitycamp.org 26th Jul - 2nd August > > ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] branding usbdrives ==> Re: Topics & deliverables from Marketing IRC meeting 03-10-2009: Countdown to 0.84 launch! Exceptional meeting today (Friday) at 1600 UTC
On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 5:49 PM, David Farning wrote: > This will require some degree of control to limit the mis-use of sugar > in substandard products. That's a reasonable move. The trick w brands is to show that you control the brands and logos... This means that you are expected to set some rules and complain to people (and eventuallysend C&D) who don't follow them. So now, from the dept of out-of-the-box-ideas: One of the rules may be: use of logos A, C and B is restricted. Logo D is unrestricted, redistributable, etc for use in community efforts without having to ask for permission. Would that help? Unrestricted logos saying "SugarLabs::Community" or "Friend of SugarLabs"? cheers, m -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- School Server Architect - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] branding usbdrives ==> Re: Topics & deliverables from Marketing IRC meeting 03-10-2009: Countdown to 0.84 launch! Exceptional meeting today (Friday) at 1600 UTC
On Fri, 2009-04-03 at 15:01 +0200, Martin Langhoff wrote: > On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 5:49 PM, David Farning wrote: > > This will require some degree of control to limit the mis-use of sugar > > in substandard products. > > That's a reasonable move. The trick w brands is to show that you > control the brands and logos... > > This means that you are expected to set some rules and complain to > people (and eventuallysend C&D) who don't follow them. > And to avoid problems. Google for "Europeans Orders OpenBSD" to see how painfull it can get. The sooner there are clear rules the better it is. > So now, from the dept of out-of-the-box-ideas: > > One of the rules may be: use of logos A, C and B is restricted. Logo D > is unrestricted, redistributable, etc for use in community efforts > without having to ask for permission. Would it help to have: - possibility resell offical sugar sticks (in larger batches) - local versions (with for example Dutch language and password) preset - expectations of donations to: - SugarLabs - Local projects - Clear expentations of: - certified partners - community partners FYI.My last actions resulted in funding to give 30 sticks to kids in the media wiki project. > Would that help? Unrestricted logos saying "SugarLabs::Community" or > "Friend of SugarLabs"? I gues it would be some kind "grey branding". 2ct Kind regards, Marten > > cheers, > > > m -- Marten Vijn linux 2.0.18 OpenBSD 3.6 FreeBSD 4.6 http://martenvijn.nl http://opencommunitycamp.org http://wifisoft.org ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] branding usbdrives ==> Re: Topics & deliverables from Marketing IRC meeting 03-10-2009: Countdown to 0.84 launch! Exceptional meeting today (Friday) at 1600 UTC
On 04/03/09 15:01, Martin Langhoff wrote: > So now, from the dept of out-of-the-box-ideas: > > One of the rules may be: use of logos A, C and B is restricted. Logo D > is unrestricted, redistributable, etc for use in community efforts > without having to ask for permission. > > Would that help? Unrestricted logos saying "SugarLabs::Community" or > "Friend of SugarLabs"? A few months ago the oversight board decided to adopt the same trademark policy of the Wikimedia Foundation: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Logo_and_trademark_policy I'm afraid our intentions weren't properly advertised in the wiki, but until we revise our trademark policy again, people can assume they have these rights on the Sugar Labs logo assets. -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://www.codewiz.org/ \X/ Sugar Labs - http://www.sugarlabs.org/ ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep