Re: [IAEP] chatzilla IRC

2008-11-29 Thread Bernie Innocenti 
Morgan Collett wrote:
 Some of us are so addicted to IRC that we leave our machines logged in
 overnight, so we can catch up on what happened or allow others to
 leave us messages... :)

You seem to need something like ctrlproxy!

  http://www.ctrlproxy.org/

It works very well, except when it doesn't.

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Re: [IAEP] chatzilla IRC

2008-11-27 Thread Bert Freudenberg 

On 27.11.2008, at 11:41, Bill Kerr wrote:
 issues for newbies like me (things which joel / shenki explained to  
 me separately):

 * it appears that 60 people are in the room but many are not there

That's mostly an issue of time zone, and secondly of getting attention.

The trick with time zones is matching a world clock against the sleep  
schedule of certain professions ;)

The trick with getting attention is to direct messages at specific  
persons, like bertf: etoys saving works again, yay!. This is a  
regular message, everyone can see it, but most IRC clients beep and  
highlight such a line if the user's nick name is mentioned literally.

There is a third part of course, matching nick names to real persons.  
It's one of my pet peeves that people need to role-play in otherwise  
serious conversations, but it apparently is one of those odd habits  
that's not going to fade.

One trick with that is /whois nick which might actually report the  
real name. More reliably, some users list their IRC nick at

http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Category:IRC_users

HTH,

- Bert -


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[IAEP] chatzilla IRC

2008-11-27 Thread Bill Kerr 
On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 12:40 AM, Caroline Meeks [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:



 On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 4:10 AM, Bernie Innocenti [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

 Elsa Culler wrote:
  Hi,
 
  Last night at sugarcamp, we(people from the Olin college OLPC chapter)
  were asked to come up with a list of roadblocks  we have run into in
  trying to volunteer effectively.  Mel Chua asked me to forward it to
  these lists, so here is the list in text format:

 Thanks for this criticism, I'm sure it is very appreciated.
 Some comments inlined below:


  we have to come up with jobs ourselves, and we're not too good at it
 
  we don't know what we can do that is useful
 
  when we are told what to do, we have to check with other people to make
  sure it's ok

 I think communication would improve a lot if it was kept on the
 public channels such as these lists, or the #sugar channel on
 irc.freenode.net.


 Note that most nondevelopers have not even heard of irc.

 Somewhere easy to find on the wiki we need some text that explains one easy
 way to connect so people can get started.  Here is some suggested text,
 maybe we can discuss it here then put it into the wiki.

 Sugar Labs meetings are held on IRC (Internet Relay Chat).  It is one of
 the first chat systems for the internet and is still preferred by many open
 source developers.

 There are many programs to use IRC.  One easy way is to download the
 ChatZilla addon for FireFox.

 Once the add on is installed open it from the Tools Menu of FF.
 (Could someone test what it does the first time, before you've told it your
 nick name?)
 It will open a new window with some text.  Click freenode in the
 available networks.
 It will take a second to connect and text will scroll on your screen.
 Type /j #Sugar

 You will now see a list of people in the Sugar room. Say Hello and join the
 conversation!



thanks Caroline,

these instructions were sufficient for me to join IRC

McAfee Virus Scan blocks ports 666-6669 by default but chatzilla warned me
about this issue

My default nickname was 'user' which I changed through Preferences tab

When I initially entered the #Sugar room I could see lots of users there
(green icons) but there was no conversation - I guess it was just a quite
time

On the second try morgs said hello immediately, so there you go

issues for newbies like me (things which joel / shenki explained to me
separately):

* it appears that 60 people are in the room but many are not there
* for new users it's nice to find feet gradually by setting up a PM /msg
shenki blah blah

it's like any new learning really --
what you can do is easy
what you haven't done before is hard
(I dont know who discovered water but it wasn't a fish)
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