Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] SLOBs weekly update, 2010-07-11

2010-07-12 Thread Bernie Innocenti
El Sun, 11-07-2010 a las 21:25 -0400, Walter Bender escribió:

 This is fine with me, but we never formally approved the earlier
 requests due to a lack of policy at the time. I had forwarded three
 requests (Chile, Argentina, and Paraguay) to the list with the subject
 [TM REQUEST]. Not sure why these requests are considered lost. I'd
 like to formally approve Sugar Labs Chile, Sugar Labs Argentina, and
 the use of the Sugar Labs trademark by Paraguay Educa. Slobs members,
 please respond +1 or -1. I'll ask DC, Colombia, and Peru to resubmit
 their requests so as to formalize them as well.

I had all 3 requests in my inbox.

I'm +1 for all 3 of them.

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Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] SLOBs weekly update, 2010-07-11

2010-07-12 Thread Mel Chua
On 07/12/2010 07:58 AM, Bernie Innocenti wrote:
 El Sun, 11-07-2010 a las 21:25 -0400, Walter Bender escribió:

 This is fine with me, but we never formally approved the earlier
 requests due to a lack of policy at the time. I had forwarded three
 requests (Chile, Argentina, and Paraguay) to the list with the subject
 [TM REQUEST]. Not sure why these requests are considered lost. I'd
 like to formally approve Sugar Labs Chile, Sugar Labs Argentina, and
 the use of the Sugar Labs trademark by Paraguay Educa. Slobs members,
 please respond +1 or -1. I'll ask DC, Colombia, and Peru to resubmit
 their requests so as to formalize them as well.

 I had all 3 requests in my inbox.

 I'm +1 for all 3 of them.

Walter forwarded the 3 requests. +1 from me to all 3.

If that's a +1 from Walter, Bernie, and myself, we need one more SLOBs 
+1 vote on each to pass it.

--Mel

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Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] SLOBs weekly update, 2010-07-11

2010-07-12 Thread Chris Ball
Hi,

Walter forwarded the 3 requests. +1 from me to all 3.

If that's a +1 from Walter, Bernie, and myself, we need one more
SLOBs +1 vote on each to pass it.

+1 vote on each from me too.

Thanks for pushing on this, Mel!

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Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] SLOBs weekly update, 2010-07-11

2010-07-12 Thread Holt

Mel Chua wrote:

On 07/12/2010 07:58 AM, Bernie Innocenti wrote:
  

El Sun, 11-07-2010 a las 21:25 -0400, Walter Bender escribió:



This is fine with me, but we never formally approved the earlier
requests due to a lack of policy at the time. I had forwarded three
requests (Chile, Argentina, and Paraguay) to the list with the subject
[TM REQUEST]. Not sure why these requests are considered lost. I'd
like to formally approve Sugar Labs Chile, Sugar Labs Argentina, and
the use of the Sugar Labs trademark by Paraguay Educa. Slobs members,
please respond +1 or -1. I'll ask DC, Colombia, and Peru to resubmit
their requests so as to formalize them as well.
  

I had all 3 requests in my inbox.

I'm +1 for all 3 of them.



Walter forwarded the 3 requests. +1 from me to all 3.

If that's a +1 from Walter, Bernie, and myself, we need one more SLOBs 
+1 vote on each to pass it.


+1 on all 3

Thanks CL, AR, PY -- you're now Sugar Labs trademark-legal :)
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Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] SLOBs weekly update, 2010-07-11

2010-07-12 Thread Gonzalo Odiard
Yupi!

Gonzalo
SugarLabs Argentina :)

On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 1:49 PM, Holt h...@laptop.org wrote:

  Mel Chua wrote:

 On 07/12/2010 07:58 AM, Bernie Innocenti wrote:


  El Sun, 11-07-2010 a las 21:25 -0400, Walter Bender escribió:



  This is fine with me, but we never formally approved the earlier
 requests due to a lack of policy at the time. I had forwarded three
 requests (Chile, Argentina, and Paraguay) to the list with the subject
 [TM REQUEST]. Not sure why these requests are considered lost. I'd
 like to formally approve Sugar Labs Chile, Sugar Labs Argentina, and
 the use of the Sugar Labs trademark by Paraguay Educa. Slobs members,
 please respond +1 or -1. I'll ask DC, Colombia, and Peru to resubmit
 their requests so as to formalize them as well.


  I had all 3 requests in my inbox.

 I'm +1 for all 3 of them.


  Walter forwarded the 3 requests. +1 from me to all 3.

 If that's a +1 from Walter, Bernie, and myself, we need one more SLOBs
 +1 vote on each to pass it.


 +1 on all 3

 Thanks CL, AR, PY -- you're now Sugar Labs trademark-legal :)

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Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] SLOBs weekly update, 2010-07-11

2010-07-11 Thread Bernie Innocenti
El Sun, 11-07-2010 a las 06:54 -0400, Mel Chua escribió:

 Our meetbot does some truly awful meeting minutes formatting, but here's 
 the summary of 
 http://me.etin.gs/sugar-meeting/sugar-meeting.minutes.20100711_0446.html:


It was a wonderful SLOBs un-meeting, we should have more of these!


 * Local Labs TM applications can't be found, so we'll drop this topic 
 until a Local Lab is indeed blocked by lack of TM permission, at which 
 point they should ping SLOBs (via emailing the slobs and iaep lists with 
 their request - doesn't have to be formal, just needs to be publicly 
 documented somewhere) so we can +1 them. DONE!

To minimize the overhead of funding future Local Labs, we may want to
implicitly grant TM usage consistently with the approval of the lab
itself.


 * Question from Kevin Mark: Who should be the deciding organization for 
 who determines what version of sugar is used in the field? (Hitting the 
 list shortly as a separate discussion thread, but no action really 
 needed - just a good point to bring up.)

My viewpoint is that Sugar Labs as a whole shouldn't officially endorse,
recommend or support anything at all. The decision to take such
commitment is up to the individuals (or teams, or companies) who are
willing to put the weight of their professional expertise behind the
projects they're interested in.

In other words, we as a community-driven organization shall not
interfere as long as the laws of self-organization are doing their job
right :-)

This reflects Mel's projects proposal and Tomeu's view that Sugar Labs
is a place to work together, not one of the players itself.


 What else do people consider the most pressing topics to the future of 
 SL? How are we doing? Are we reaching our goals? (What are they?) These 
 should be the agenda items we discuss.

Didn't we set goals for 2010 a while ago? It would be nice to review
them now. In my mind, this year we're seing a huge leap forward in the
Sugar Labs community. Relationships with OLPC have enormously improved
and deployments are starting to get engaged in development. The
relationship with Fedora is as strong as ever and Debian/Ubuntu are
coming along. 

My #1 priority for this year was to close the gap between what our
development team releases and what OLPC deployments are rolling out,
which seems to be happening now.

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Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] SLOBs weekly update, 2010-07-11

2010-07-11 Thread Walter Bender
On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 3:07 PM, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote:
 El Sun, 11-07-2010 a las 06:54 -0400, Mel Chua escribió:

 Our meetbot does some truly awful meeting minutes formatting, but here's
 the summary of
 http://me.etin.gs/sugar-meeting/sugar-meeting.minutes.20100711_0446.html:


 It was a wonderful SLOBs un-meeting, we should have more of these!


 * Local Labs TM applications can't be found, so we'll drop this topic
 until a Local Lab is indeed blocked by lack of TM permission, at which
 point they should ping SLOBs (via emailing the slobs and iaep lists with
 their request - doesn't have to be formal, just needs to be publicly
 documented somewhere) so we can +1 them. DONE!

 To minimize the overhead of funding future Local Labs, we may want to
 implicitly grant TM usage consistently with the approval of the lab
 itself.



This is fine with me, but we never formally approved the earlier
requests due to a lack of policy at the time. I had forwarded three
requests (Chile, Argentina, and Paraguay) to the list with the subject
[TM REQUEST]. Not sure why these requests are considered lost. I'd
like to formally approve Sugar Labs Chile, Sugar Labs Argentina, and
the use of the Sugar Labs trademark by Paraguay Educa. Slobs members,
please respond +1 or -1. I'll ask DC, Colombia, and Peru to resubmit
their requests so as to formalize them as well.

 * Question from Kevin Mark: Who should be the deciding organization for
 who determines what version of sugar is used in the field? (Hitting the
 list shortly as a separate discussion thread, but no action really
 needed - just a good point to bring up.)

 My viewpoint is that Sugar Labs as a whole shouldn't officially endorse,
 recommend or support anything at all. The decision to take such
 commitment is up to the individuals (or teams, or companies) who are
 willing to put the weight of their professional expertise behind the
 projects they're interested in.

 In other words, we as a community-driven organization shall not
 interfere as long as the laws of self-organization are doing their job
 right :-)

 This reflects Mel's projects proposal and Tomeu's view that Sugar Labs
 is a place to work together, not one of the players itself.


OLPC and other downstreams should be deciding this for themselves. We
can offer opinions of course, but the most important thing is to help
downstream organize support and to continue to evolve the platform to
meet the needs of learners.

 What else do people consider the most pressing topics to the future of
 SL? How are we doing? Are we reaching our goals? (What are they?) These
 should be the agenda items we discuss.

 Didn't we set goals for 2010 a while ago? It would be nice to review
 them now. In my mind, this year we're seing a huge leap forward in the
 Sugar Labs community. Relationships with OLPC have enormously improved
 and deployments are starting to get engaged in development. The
 relationship with Fedora is as strong as ever and Debian/Ubuntu are
 coming along.

 My #1 priority for this year was to close the gap between what our
 development team releases and what OLPC deployments are rolling out,
 which seems to be happening now.


FYI

http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Oversight_Board/Meeting_Minutes-2010-01-22#Goals_for_2010_2

-walter

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Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] SLOBs weekly update, 2010-07-11

2010-07-11 Thread Mel Chua
 This is fine with me, but we never formally approved the earlier
 requests due to a lack of policy at the time. I had forwarded three
 requests (Chile, Argentina, and Paraguay) to the list with the subject
 [TM REQUEST]. Not sure why these requests are considered lost. I'd
 like to formally approve Sugar Labs Chile, Sugar Labs Argentina, and
 the use of the Sugar Labs trademark by Paraguay Educa. Slobs members,
 please respond +1 or -1. I'll ask DC, Colombia, and Peru to resubmit
 their requests so as to formalize them as well.

Walter, can you send links to the Chile, Argentina, and Paraguay apps to 
these lists?

(I'm really not trying to nitpick or block these applications, I just 
could not for the life of me find them while searching SLOBs and IAEP 
mail archives last night... it is entirely possible I missed them in 
plain sight, or they're somewhere I haven't looked. I would be 
super-thrilled to +1 them when we see the apps we are approving...)

--Mel
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