Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] sounds in Speak
On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 8:54 PM, K. K. Subramaniam subb...@gmail.comwrote: On Monday 14 December 2009 09:00:23 pm Aleksey Lim wrote: Hello everybody, This afternoon, I had an interesting conversation with a Montessori teacher, about Speak. She asked me why Speak says a when a is pressed and not the sound of the letter a. Montessori teachers teach the shape and sound of letters first, and then the name of the alphabet. I did not have an answer for her, but I wondered if it would be possible to have an option in Speak to do so. not sure it could be done in existed Speak(it just passes string to speak engine). But it could separate activity or mode in Speak which teaches alphabet. Isn't Speak an overkill for such basic lessons? Montessori teachers would find Scratch or EToys useful for such exercises. They can prepare a list of words and record their associated 'a' sounds. Script word objects to respond with the appropriate sound when letter 'a' is dropped on them (or the 'a' key is pressed with the mouse hovering over a word) . This puts more control on the quality of pronunciation in the hands of teachers. Subbu The concern was more along the lines of It will confuse our students because we teach them phonetically as opposed to anything else. cheers, Sameer -- Dr. Sameer Verma, Ph.D. Associate Professor, Information Systems Director, Center for Business Solutions San Francisco State University http://verma.sfsu.edu/ http://cbs.sfsu.edu/ http://is.sfsu.edu/ ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] sounds in Speak
On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 05:48:39PM -0700, Sameer Verma wrote: Hello everybody, This afternoon, I had an interesting conversation with a Montessori teacher, about Speak. She asked me why Speak says a when a is pressed and not the *sound* of the letter a. Montessori teachers teach the shape and sound of letters first, and then the name of the alphabet. I did not have an answer for her, but I wondered if it would be possible to have an option in Speak to do so. not sure it could be done in existed Speak(it just passes string to speak engine). But it could separate activity or mode in Speak which teaches alphabet. I'd imagine that the sound of the letter would vary depending on language, right? cheers, Sameer -- Dr. Sameer Verma, Ph.D. Associate Professor of Information Systems San Francisco State University San Francisco CA 94132 USA http://verma.sfsu.edu/ http://opensource.sfsu.edu/ ___ Sugar-devel mailing list sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel -- Aleksey ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] sounds in Speak
On 14 Dec 2009, at 15:30, Aleksey Lim wrote: On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 05:48:39PM -0700, Sameer Verma wrote: Hello everybody, This afternoon, I had an interesting conversation with a Montessori teacher, about Speak. She asked me why Speak says a when a is pressed and not the *sound* of the letter a. Montessori teachers teach the shape and sound of letters first, and then the name of the alphabet. I did not have an answer for her, but I wondered if it would be possible to have an option in Speak to do so. not sure it could be done in existed Speak(it just passes string to speak engine). But it could separate activity or mode in Speak which teaches alphabet. FWIW: I had a go at this quite a while back. At the time, on an XO-1, I found the latency was much to high for even quite slow typing. The sound was delayed arriving, often stuttered, and typing became quite difficult due to the poor responsiveness. Not sure anything has really changed since I last tried. Regards, --Gary I'd imagine that the sound of the letter would vary depending on language, right? cheers, Sameer -- Dr. Sameer Verma, Ph.D. Associate Professor of Information Systems San Francisco State University San Francisco CA 94132 USA http://verma.sfsu.edu/ http://opensource.sfsu.edu/ ___ Sugar-devel mailing list sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel -- Aleksey ___ Sugar-devel mailing list sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] sounds in Speak
On Monday 14 December 2009 09:00:23 pm Aleksey Lim wrote: Hello everybody, This afternoon, I had an interesting conversation with a Montessori teacher, about Speak. She asked me why Speak says a when a is pressed and not the sound of the letter a. Montessori teachers teach the shape and sound of letters first, and then the name of the alphabet. I did not have an answer for her, but I wondered if it would be possible to have an option in Speak to do so. not sure it could be done in existed Speak(it just passes string to speak engine). But it could separate activity or mode in Speak which teaches alphabet. Isn't Speak an overkill for such basic lessons? Montessori teachers would find Scratch or EToys useful for such exercises. They can prepare a list of words and record their associated 'a' sounds. Script word objects to respond with the appropriate sound when letter 'a' is dropped on them (or the 'a' key is pressed with the mouse hovering over a word) . This puts more control on the quality of pronunciation in the hands of teachers. Subbu ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
