Re: [IAEP] One Laptop per Child and Marvell Join Forces to Redefine Tablet Computing for Students Around the World
Hi Peter, > There is an ARM port for Fedora, and it happens to work very well > with the Marvell ARM chips with at least two contributors from > Marvell helping out. The Fedora ARM port is good enough that it > was used straight up as the basis for the MeeGo ARM support. The > only thing that's missing is a kernel for the specific device as > the arm kernels can be very device specific but I doubt that will > be a major issue as that is currently the case for the XO-1 and > XO-1.5 (of course I wish its wasn't but there's still outstanding > kernel patches needed for event the XO-1). Thanks. I've been using the Fedora ARM packages on our Marvell board, so I do know about their status -- what I meant by "no port" is that it's not an official Fedora port, not even as a secondary architecture yet. I don't know whether it would be a good idea to ship product with a Fedora remix based on a port that doesn't officially exist yet; at the least, it would require a lot of work. For example, there's no Fedora 13 release for ARM yet. They're still on F12. > The Fedora ARM movement is growing very quickly with a full koji > build farm of 20 odd buildsystems and an increasing community. Unfortunately, as I understand it the koji build farm has been dismantled, with some replacement machines on order, but I agree that there's some promising momentum behind Fedora ARM. > From the gnome side I mostly agree, although the underlying infra > will be fully multitouch enabled with gnome 3. The issue with the > gnome 3 interface, which is relatively touch friendly, is its > dependence on 3D GPUs for the OpenGL rendering and the face that > the existence of open source 3D drivers on ARM is non existent > and even worse than the state of the x86 a year or two ago. Our hardware only supports OpenGL-ES rather than OpenGL, so that's a complicating factor too. > Let me know if you need help, or details of people from the > Fedora side who could assist. Thanks! I'm already spending time with the #fedora-arm folks, and we are considering trying to use Fedora all the same. It's not an easy decision, though. - Chris. -- Chris Ball One Laptop Per Child ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] One Laptop per Child and Marvell Join Forces to Redefine Tablet Computing for Students Around the World
Hi Chris, > > > http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/one-laptop-per-child-and-marvell-join-forces-to-redefine-tablet-computing-for-students-around-the-world-95007559.html > > The press release doesn't say so, but the tablet will run Sugar > > and GNOME over Fedora. > > A belated follow-up: I don't know why you said this, because we've > made no such decision yet. Sugar's a safe bet, but there are large > obstacles to running either Fedora (no ARM port yet!) or GNOME (not > suited for touchscreen use) on the tablets. We'll let you know when > we do announce the software stack for XO-1.75 and XO-3. There is an ARM port for Fedora, and it happens to work very well with the Marvell ARM chips with at least two contributors from Marvell helping out. The Fedora ARM port is good enough that it was used straight up as the basis for the MeeGo ARM support. The only thing that's missing is a kernel for the specific device as the arm kernels can be very device specific but I doubt that will be a major issue as that is currently the case for the XO-1 and XO-1.5 (of course I wish its wasn't but there's still outstanding kernel patches needed for event the XO-1). The Fedora ARM movement is growing very quickly with a full koji build farm of 20 odd buildsystems and an increasing community. >From the gnome side I mostly agree, although the underlying infra will be fully multitouch enabled with gnome 3. The issue with the gnome 3 interface, which is relatively touch friendly, is its dependence on 3D GPUs for the OpenGL rendering and the face that the existence of open source 3D drivers on ARM is non existent and even worse than the state of the x86 a year or two ago. > (The fact that we haven't decided what to use doesn't mean that we > definitely *won't* use Fedora or GNOME. It simply means that we > haven't decided yet. Advice welcome!) Let me know if you need help, or details of people from the Fedora side who could assist. Peter ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] One Laptop per Child and Marvell Join Forces to Redefine Tablet Computing for Students Around the World
Hi, > http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/one-laptop-per-child-and-marvell-join-forces-to-redefine-tablet-computing-for-students-around-the-world-95007559.html > The press release doesn't say so, but the tablet will run Sugar > and GNOME over Fedora. A belated follow-up: I don't know why you said this, because we've made no such decision yet. Sugar's a safe bet, but there are large obstacles to running either Fedora (no ARM port yet!) or GNOME (not suited for touchscreen use) on the tablets. We'll let you know when we do announce the software stack for XO-1.75 and XO-3. (The fact that we haven't decided what to use doesn't mean that we definitely *won't* use Fedora or GNOME. It simply means that we haven't decided yet. Advice welcome!) - Chris. -- Chris Ball One Laptop Per Child ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
