Re: [IAEP] Re. Sugar Digest

2015-04-29 Thread Gonzalo Odiard
On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 12:03 AM, Dan Tenason  wrote:

> There might be a few issues that have a valid place on the Sugar digest.
>
> 1. Is it intellectually honest to assert that every XO ever made is in
> daily use? It is one thing to embellish by calling your beer "the worlds
> best." It is another thing to reduce the credibility of such an important
> project by exaggeration.
>
>
We already said we don't know how many XOs are broken/stolen/in boxes.
We was already clear that we don't have a mechanism to accurately report
daily users.
Apparently you are the only one obsessed with this issue.



> 2. Is the passionate response from Messrs. Anderson, Gonzalo, and Bender
> to discussion about inflated Sugar numbers correlated to the limited amount
> of academic research on Sugar and OLPC.
>

Rhetoric question?


> 3. Has any progress been made on either the seating of a new Oversight
> Board or the deployment data Mr. Bender promised last month.
>

Sebastian Silva and Caryl Bigenho volunteered to run a new election.
They can reply better about that.

I am collecting the replies from the deployments, and working in a
document. Until now, we received
12 replies, waiting to get more replies.


>
> And yes, I do all of my initial research under a pseudonym for the the
> same reason food critics do.
>


Are you Vegan? :)
Is strange you claim we are acting in a dishonest way, but you are not
capable
of make questions with your own name.

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Gonzalo Odiard

SugarLabs - Software for children learning
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Re: [IAEP] Re. Sugar Digest

2015-04-29 Thread Caryl Bigenho


From: godi...@sugarlabs.org
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2015 09:18:23 -0300
To: dan.tena...@mail.ru
CC: iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org
Subject: Re: [IAEP] Re. Sugar Digest



On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 12:03 AM, Dan Tenason  wrote:

There might be a few issues that have a valid place on the Sugar digest.

1. Is it intellectually honest to assert that every XO ever made is in daily 
use? It is one thing to embellish by calling your beer "the worlds best." It is 
another thing to reduce the credibility of such an important project by 
exaggeration.


We already said we don't know how many XOs are broken/stolen/in boxes.We was 
already clear that we don't have a mechanism to accurately report daily 
users.Apparently you are the only one obsessed with this issue.  
 2. Is the passionate response from Messrs. Anderson, Gonzalo, and Bender to 
discussion about inflated Sugar numbers correlated to the limited amount of 
academic research on Sugar and OLPC.

Rhetoric question? 3. Has any progress been made on either the seating of a new 
Oversight Board or the deployment data Mr. Bender promised last month.

Sebastian Silva and Caryl Bigenho volunteered to run a new election.They can 
reply better about that.
Sebastian and I are gathering all the information and resources needed to make 
the new election happen.We want to be sure the list of electors is up-to-date 
and complete and that others, who are not on the list, are given the 
opportunity to "register." This is a complex task and is further complicated by 
the lack of a 2014-2015 election. You will be hearing from us when we have 
enough of the required information to proceed.
Caryl 
I am collecting the replies from the deployments, and working in a document. 
Until now, we received12 replies, waiting to get more replies. 
And yes, I do all of my initial research under a pseudonym for the the same 
reason food critics do.


Are you Vegan? :)Is strange you claim we are acting in a dishonest way, but you 
are not capable of make questions with your own name.
"Real" researchers are open about their identity. Private investigators  and 
investigative reporters are the ones who go "undercover" and often their 
respondents will tell them what they think they want to hear. A creditable 
report needs to be done in a manner that is academically sound and without 
bias. Caryl-- 
Gonzalo Odiard

SugarLabs - Software for children learning 



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