Re: [IAEP] Sugar packages for non-mainstream distros
On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 3:00 PM, Walter Bender [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: pygame is an interesting case in point of where a little bit of Sugar glue could go a long ways towards device interoperability. As was posted to this list earlier today, many pygame developers are hardcoding the screen resolution to 1200x900 (or 750, to account for the toolbar). This breaks their activities on non-OLPC-XO devices and it would be easy enough to change the habit to include a call to get the actual screen resolution, which can vary all over the place. Yes, I'm a bit worried about pygame because it's used in a lot of activities but it has been out of the radar for Sugar developers. Perhaps we need to take action and check it's well packaged for the platforms we care about, take bugs about it, make sure it's easy for its users to do scalable UIs, etc? How we could get some help about it? Regards, Tomeu -walter On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 8:20 AM, Tomeu Vizoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 11:47 AM, Aleksey Lim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: as far as know, altlinux was based on Mandriva, but at present there are lots differences (but not sure I'm not RPM guy:) Hmm, I would expect for most of those differences not having a direct impact on Sugar, though may be wrong... Please keep us posted on your progresses, would be nice if all the people doing rpms for the different distros could share as much of their work as possible. Regards, Tomeu On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 11:42:58AM +0100, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 10:40 AM, Aleksey Lim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 12:05:16AM -0800, Edward Cherlin wrote: On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 4:11 PM, Aleksey Lim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: just some thoughts and some practices (specific?) of Sugar packaging process http://sugarlabs.org/go/DeploymentTeam/jhconvert Can you add something about testing these packages and reporting bugs in Sugar on specific distributions? About Gentoo, in fact, I'll be very surprised if Gentoo is popular among sugar end users, but I use Gentoo and furthermore it helps me test sugar in various environments: I've built sugar (both 0.82 and 0.83), at first sight, it works - does basic operations (no errors in logs) But my current focus is altlinux - its a local Russian distro. The main purpose of porting sugar on altlinux is the fact that it takes part in state-program FOSS for schools - there is school-specific distro. I've uploaded sugar-fructose to unstable altlinux's repo (the same status like on Gentoo) and work now on Russian localization (whole this week). After back porting to school branch I suspect broader feedback Sounds very good, please keep us posted of your progress (and problems!). Just to check, altlinux is based on Mandriva, right? If so, how is being coordinated the packaging between the different mandriva-like distros? Regards, Tomeu ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Sugar packages for non-mainstream distros
On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 4:11 PM, Aleksey Lim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: just some thoughts and some practices (specific?) of Sugar packaging process http://sugarlabs.org/go/DeploymentTeam/jhconvert Can you add something about testing these packages and reporting bugs in Sugar on specific distributions? ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- Silent Thunder (默雷/धर्ममेघशब्दगर्ज/دھرممیگھشبدگر ج) is my name And Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, The Truth my destination. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/User:Mokurai ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Sugar packages for non-mainstream distros
On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 10:40 AM, Aleksey Lim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 12:05:16AM -0800, Edward Cherlin wrote: On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 4:11 PM, Aleksey Lim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: just some thoughts and some practices (specific?) of Sugar packaging process http://sugarlabs.org/go/DeploymentTeam/jhconvert Can you add something about testing these packages and reporting bugs in Sugar on specific distributions? About Gentoo, in fact, I'll be very surprised if Gentoo is popular among sugar end users, but I use Gentoo and furthermore it helps me test sugar in various environments: I've built sugar (both 0.82 and 0.83), at first sight, it works - does basic operations (no errors in logs) But my current focus is altlinux - its a local Russian distro. The main purpose of porting sugar on altlinux is the fact that it takes part in state-program FOSS for schools - there is school-specific distro. I've uploaded sugar-fructose to unstable altlinux's repo (the same status like on Gentoo) and work now on Russian localization (whole this week). After back porting to school branch I suspect broader feedback Sounds very good, please keep us posted of your progress (and problems!). Just to check, altlinux is based on Mandriva, right? If so, how is being coordinated the packaging between the different mandriva-like distros? Regards, Tomeu ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Sugar packages for non-mainstream distros
as far as know, altlinux was based on Mandriva, but at present there are lots differences (but not sure I'm not RPM guy:) On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 11:42:58AM +0100, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 10:40 AM, Aleksey Lim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 12:05:16AM -0800, Edward Cherlin wrote: On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 4:11 PM, Aleksey Lim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: just some thoughts and some practices (specific?) of Sugar packaging process http://sugarlabs.org/go/DeploymentTeam/jhconvert Can you add something about testing these packages and reporting bugs in Sugar on specific distributions? About Gentoo, in fact, I'll be very surprised if Gentoo is popular among sugar end users, but I use Gentoo and furthermore it helps me test sugar in various environments: I've built sugar (both 0.82 and 0.83), at first sight, it works - does basic operations (no errors in logs) But my current focus is altlinux - its a local Russian distro. The main purpose of porting sugar on altlinux is the fact that it takes part in state-program FOSS for schools - there is school-specific distro. I've uploaded sugar-fructose to unstable altlinux's repo (the same status like on Gentoo) and work now on Russian localization (whole this week). After back porting to school branch I suspect broader feedback Sounds very good, please keep us posted of your progress (and problems!). Just to check, altlinux is based on Mandriva, right? If so, how is being coordinated the packaging between the different mandriva-like distros? Regards, Tomeu ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Sugar packages for non-mainstream distros
Altlinux is also pretty integrated with LTSP 5, would be cool to see some sugar via ltsp tests for altlinux... David Van Assche On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 8:10 PM, Edward Cherlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 1:40 AM, Aleksey Lim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 12:05:16AM -0800, Edward Cherlin wrote: On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 4:11 PM, Aleksey Lim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: just some thoughts and some practices (specific?) of Sugar packaging process http://sugarlabs.org/go/DeploymentTeam/jhconvert Can you add something about testing these packages and reporting bugs in Sugar on specific distributions? About Gentoo, in fact, I'll be very surprised if Gentoo is popular among sugar end users, but I use Gentoo and furthermore it helps me test sugar in various environments: I've built sugar (both 0.82 and 0.83), at first sight, it works - does basic operations (no errors in logs) But my current focus is altlinux - its a local Russian distro. Прекрасно! The main purpose of porting sugar on altlinux is the fact that it takes part in state-program FOSS for schools - there is school-specific distro. I've uploaded sugar-fructose to unstable altlinux's repo (the same status like on Gentoo) and work now on Russian localization (whole this week). After back porting to school branch I suspect broader feedback Болшое спасибо. --- Aleksey Эдуард Георгеевич Цервын -- Silent Thunder (默雷/धर्ममेघशब्दगर्ज/دھرممیگھشبدگر ج) is my name And Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, The Truth my destination. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/User:Mokurai ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Sugar packages for non-mainstream distros
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 01:23:20AM +0100, Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote: On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 1:11 AM, Aleksey Lim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: just some thoughts and some practices (specific?) of Sugar packaging process http://sugarlabs.org/go/DeploymentTeam/jhconvert Sounds very very similar to what Guy (in cc) has been doing for debian! as far as I can understand thats jhbuild adapted to debian, isn't it ? ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Sugar packages for non-mainstream distros
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 10:17:18AM +0200, Guy Sheffer wrote: Yes, I have done this for debian :-) . We can merge the code. On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 2:23 AM, Marco Pesenti Gritti [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 1:11 AM, Aleksey Lim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: just some thoughts and some practices (specific?) of Sugar packaging process http://sugarlabs.org/go/DeploymentTeam/jhconvert Sounds very very similar to what Guy (in cc) has been doing for debian! Marco Guy, could you provide url to your work (http://download.sugarlabs.org/sugar/liveimages/debian-jhbuild/apt/?) ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Sugar packages for non-mainstream distros
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 1:11 AM, Aleksey Lim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: just some thoughts and some practices (specific?) of Sugar packaging process http://sugarlabs.org/go/DeploymentTeam/jhconvert Sounds very very similar to what Guy (in cc) has been doing for debian! Marco ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
