Re: [IAEP] Wanted: List of Sugar activities for the XO-1.5

[Wade Brainerd]

On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 8:40 PM, Chris Ball  wrote:
> Hi,
>
>   > What about leaving it unstarred?  I'd hate to leave out a good
>   > practical activity just out of indirect fear; similar arguments
>   > could be used as reasons not to have a word processor or
>   > spreadsheet altogether.
>
> Yes, I'm in favour of shipping Finance too, as long as Wade thinks
> it's ready/usable enough.  A local decision not to include it is fine,
> but separate from the question of what we should provide as a default.

Yeah, Finance is definitely usable.  It was one of those weekend
projects that I figured I'd take further if it got some interest, but
what is there now is quite functional.

Just make sure you get v3 from ASLO - it contains all the latest
translations and uses the correct version of json (thx to sugar-ports
lib).

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Re: [IAEP] Wanted: List of Sugar activities for the XO-1.5

[Chris Ball]

Hi,

   > What about leaving it unstarred?  I'd hate to leave out a good
   > practical activity just out of indirect fear; similar arguments
   > could be used as reasons not to have a word processor or
   > spreadsheet altogether.

Yes, I'm in favour of shipping Finance too, as long as Wade thinks
it's ready/usable enough.  A local decision not to include it is fine,
but separate from the question of what we should provide as a default.

- Chris.
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Re: [IAEP] Wanted: List of Sugar activities for the XO-1.5

[Gary C Martin]

Hi Mike,

On 5 Dec 2009, at 20:43, Mike Dawson wrote:

> Hi All,
> 
> The GCompris stuff is very very nice indeed and I would highly
> recommend having some of them.  Even just because it has such great
> demo power and then further activities can be installed from the
> school server.

My concern with GCompris ports is they do not follow even the most basic of 
Sugar UI standards, many don't even support keeping a Journal resume state. 
There's are some nice applications, but highly concerned they dilute 
understanding of basic Sugar behaviours and UI expectations if installed as 
default demos of "what is good".

Regards,
--Gary

> I would recommend against including finance by default.  As laptops
> are given out by government agencies in countries where people are
> often suspicious of the government and it's often the time that they
> are trying to increase tax revenue this might well lead to suspicions.
> We otherwise would have loved to include it.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> -Mike (in Afghanistan)
> 
> 2009/12/6 Samuel Klein :
>> Here's a list of activities that I think would be great, both worth starring
>> and worth having unstarred (it's a large enough list now that it's confusing
>> to have them all on the home screen by default, but there are lots of great
>> activities that people who know about them will want even when they're
>> offline with no way to get new activities).
>> 
>> There may be another 5-10 of these that are worth unstarring for a clean,
>> useful firstboot home screen...  I'm testing these over the weekend.
>> 
>> OLPCorps classes had lovely stories about using both Micropolis and Moon
>> with parents and students becoming interested because of those activities
>> (Moon for religious reasons).
>> 
>> Words still accumulates bad characters at the start of its input field if
>> you keep using it and encounter words with accents, but it's also been very
>> useful.
>> 
>> Read Etexts is a bit redundant with Get Books, but it is lovely in its own
>> focused way, and small.
>> 
>> OOo4kids and Gcompris (a suitable subset) would be excellent additions...
>> both have sizeable development communities compared to most of the
>> activities here
>> 
>> SJ
>> 
>> 
>>> TO TEST:
>>> 
>>> ==
>>> Browse
>>> Calculate
>>> Chat
>>> Distance
>>> Etoys
>>> Implode
>>> Infoslicer
>>> IRC
>>> Labyrinth
>>> Maze
>>> Measure
>>> Memorize
>>> Physics
>>> Pippy
>>> Read
>>> Record
>>> Scratch
>>> Speak
>>> TamTam *
>>> Terminal
>>> Turtle Art
>>> Typing Turtle
>>> Words
>>> Write
>>> 
>>> [ADD]
>>> Get Books
>>> Help
>>> Wikibrowse (en, es)
>>> ..
>>> Falabracman
>>> FoodForce2
>>> Micropolis (Corps support!)
>>> OOo4Kids (link to Gnome)
>>> 
>>> GCompris
>>> TuxPaint
>>> ..
>>> Finance
>>> Geogebra
>>> SocialCalc
>>> 
>>> 
>>> [UNSTAR]
>>> Analyze
>>> Jukebox
>>> Log
>>> Moon (Corps story!)
>>> Paint
>>> 
>>> [ADD & UNSTAR]
>>> VNC Launcher
>>> Read Etexts?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -- Forwarded message --
>>> From: Chris Ball 
>>> Date: Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 3:54 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Devel Digest, Vol 45, Issue 53
>>> To: "Reuben K. Caron" 
>>> Cc: OLPC Development , Eric Bachard
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> [Added ericb to CC; Eric, we're talking about which applications to
>>> include by default on our OLPC XO-1.5 software release.]
>>> 
>>>   > How about suggestions for programs on the Gnome side?
>>> 
>>> That's a good idea, thanks.
>>> 
>>> I haven't decided what to do about OpenOffice yet -- at the moment we
>>> don't ship it, but do ship abiword and gnumeric.  The options for it
>>> look something like:
>>> 
>>> * just add the openoffice.org Fedora packages for GNOME.
>>>  (How much disk space would that use?)
>>> 
>>> * just add the Ooo4Kids activity for Sugar.
>>> 
>>> * just add the Ooo4Kids activity for Sugar, *and* find a way to make
>>>  the same activity launchable inside GNOME.  This would need Ooo4Kids
>>>  to be useful for older kids as well, since they're the target
>>>  audience for using GNOME instead of Sugar.
>>> 
>>> The OOo4Kids activity is here:
>>> 
>>> http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/addon/4241  (100MB)
>>> 
>>> Perhaps someone could try out OOo4Kids, see how it compares to
>>> standard OpenOffice, and see how much disk space adding the full
>>> OpenOffice packages would require?
>>> 
>>> Thanks!
>>> 
>>> - Chris.
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Re: [IAEP] Wanted: List of Sugar activities for the XO-1.5

[Samuel Klein]

On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 3:32 PM, Benjamin M. Schwartz <
bmsch...@fas.harvard.edu> wrote:

> Samuel Klein wrote:
> >> [ADD & UNSTAR]
> >> VNC Launcher
>
> Not sure what this category is for, but I feel like I need to put in a
> plug for Watch Me [1].


It's for activities with great demo potential, or that are useful in the
hands of clueful XO uses/techers/&c -- but aren't so broadly useful as to
merit taking up 2% of the default desktop.


> Watch Me, wraps this process into a pure Sugar form, so that XOs running
> Sugar can share their screens with each other.
>
> [1] http://activities.sugarlabs.org/sugar/addon/4205
>

That's very cool; I hadn't tried it  before.

> http://dev.laptop.org/~bemasc/StopWatchActivity-3.xo

+1

Mike writes:
> I would recommend against including finance by default.  As laptops
> are given out by government agencies in countries where people are
> often suspicious of the government and it's often the time that they
> are trying to increase tax revenue this might well lead to suspicions.

What about leaving it unstarred?   I'd hate to leave out a good practical
activity just out of indirect fear; similar arguments could be used as
reasons not to have a word processor or spreadsheet altogether.

SJ
(who wishes ImageQuiz  were available :)
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Re: [IAEP] Wanted: List of Sugar activities for the XO-1.5

[Chris Ball]

Hi,

   > I'd suggest Stopwatch
   > http://dev.laptop.org/~bemasc/StopWatchActivity-3.xo

Thanks, added.

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Re: [IAEP] Wanted: List of Sugar activities for the XO-1.5

[Benjamin M. Schwartz]

I'd suggest Stopwatch

http://dev.laptop.org/~bemasc/StopWatchActivity-3.xo

--Ben



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Re: [IAEP] Wanted: List of Sugar activities for the XO-1.5

[Benjamin M. Schwartz]

Samuel Klein wrote:
>> [ADD & UNSTAR]
>> VNC Launcher

Not sure what this category is for, but I feel like I need to put in a
plug for Watch Me [1].  VNC Launcher lets an XO copy its screen to a
non-Sugar client with VNC software.  Watch Me, wraps this process into a
pure Sugar form, so that XOs running Sugar can share their screens with
each other.

[1] http://activities.sugarlabs.org/sugar/addon/4205



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Re: [IAEP] Wanted: List of Sugar activities for the XO-1.5

[Samuel Klein]

Here's a list of activities that I think would be great, both worth starring
and worth having unstarred (it's a large enough list now that it's confusing
to have them all on the home screen by default, but there are lots of great
activities that people who know about them will want even when they're
offline with no way to get new activities).

There may be another 5-10 of these that are worth unstarring for a clean,
useful firstboot home screen...  I'm testing these over the weekend.

OLPCorps classes had lovely stories about using both Micropolis and Moon
with parents and students becoming interested because of those activities
(Moon for religious reasons).

Words still accumulates bad characters at the start of its input field if
you keep using it and encounter words with accents, but it's also been very
useful.

Read Etexts is a bit redundant with Get Books, but it is lovely in its own
focused way, and small.

OOo4kids and Gcompris (a suitable subset) would be excellent additions...
both have sizeable development communities compared to most of the
activities here

SJ


TO TEST:
>
> ==
>
> Browse
> Calculate
> Chat
> Distance
> Etoys
> Implode
> Infoslicer
> IRC
> Labyrinth
> Maze
> Measure
> Memorize
>
> Physics
> Pippy
> Read
> Record
> Scratch
> Speak
> TamTam *
> Terminal
> Turtle Art
> Typing Turtle
> Words
> Write
>
> [ADD]
> Get Books
> Help
> Wikibrowse (en, es)
> ..
> Falabracman
> FoodForce2
> Micropolis (Corps support!)
> OOo4Kids (link to Gnome)

GCompris
> TuxPaint
> ..
> Finance
> Geogebra
> SocialCalc
>
>
> [UNSTAR]
> Analyze
> Jukebox
> Log
> Moon (Corps story!)
> Paint
>
> [ADD & UNSTAR]
> VNC Launcher
> Read Etexts?
>
>
>
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Chris Ball 
> Date: Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 3:54 PM
> Subject: Re: Devel Digest, Vol 45, Issue 53
> To: "Reuben K. Caron" 
> Cc: OLPC Development , Eric Bachard <
> er...@openoffice.org>
>
>
> Hi,
>
> [Added ericb to CC; Eric, we're talking about which applications to
> include by default on our OLPC XO-1.5 software release.]
>
>   > How about suggestions for programs on the Gnome side?
>
> That's a good idea, thanks.
>
> I haven't decided what to do about OpenOffice yet -- at the moment we
> don't ship it, but do ship abiword and gnumeric.  The options for it
> look something like:
>
> * just add the openoffice.org Fedora packages for GNOME.
>  (How much disk space would that use?)
>
> * just add the Ooo4Kids activity for Sugar.
>
> * just add the Ooo4Kids activity for Sugar, *and* find a way to make
>  the same activity launchable inside GNOME.  This would need Ooo4Kids
>  to be useful for older kids as well, since they're the target
>  audience for using GNOME instead of Sugar.
>
> The OOo4Kids activity is here:
>
> http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/addon/4241  (100MB)
>
> Perhaps someone could try out OOo4Kids, see how it compares to
> standard OpenOffice, and see how much disk space adding the full
> OpenOffice packages would require?
>
> Thanks!
>
> - Chris.
> --
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Re: [IAEP] Wanted: List of Sugar activities for the XO-1.5

[Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero]

Another suggestions from -Sur.

Geogebra and Wikibrowse.


cheers!
Rafael Ortiz



On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 3:38 PM, Claudia Urrea  wrote:
> What about SocialCalc? I use it with measure to graph the data collected. It
> can also be used to do any kind of budget, etc. People use it.. and they are
> planning to release a new version with Spanish localization.
>
> All my XOs have VNC launcher... I use it during workshops or demos, but I
> couldn't find it in Sugar Labs.
>
> Claudia.
>
> On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 8:20 PM, Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero
>  wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> It's done..let's see what people says there.
>>
>>
>> Rafael Ortiz
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 7:19 AM, Tomeu Vizoso  wrote:
>> > On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 18:47, Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero
>> >  wrote:
>> >> Also this should be asked to future XO 1.5 deployments,
>> >> they could have another ideas for activities to be included in the
>> >> list.
>> >
>> > Should we ask in olpc-sur?
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> >
>> > Tomeu
>> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Rafael Ortiz
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 11:05 AM, Jim Simmons 
>> >> wrote:
>> >>> Chris,
>> >>>
>> >>> I agree with Gerald on either Get Books or Get IA Books (not both).
>> >>> Get Books is still being worked on by Sayamindu Dasgupta but perhaps
>> >>> he could get it in shape for inclusion in time.  Right now it doesn't
>> >>> work on .82, but I can't see that being an issue.
>> >>>
>> >>> Get IA Books works on either but is limited to the books in the
>> >>> Internet Archive.  There are only about a million books there!  It is,
>> >>> however, ready to go.  It isn't a popular download on ASLO but it
>> >>> deserves to be.
>> >>>
>> >>> You might also consider Read Etexts, because of its text to speech
>> >>> with highlighting feature and its own built in book search.  It only
>> >>> works with Project Gutenberg titles, so no pictures.  The present
>> >>> version is useable, but I'm working on a new version that supports
>> >>> word wrapping on PG texts and saving font size and speech preferences
>> >>> (pitch and rate).  This is a popular download on ASLO.
>> >>>
>> >>> I've never tried the IRC Activity so I'm not knocking it, but I wonder
>> >>> if children would find that useful.  They already have Chat and Speak.
>> >>>
>> >>> If you're going to include Read you should consider what evince
>> >>> modules, etc. to include with it.  With the right modules Read can do
>> >>> DJVU, .cbz, and EPUB documents as well as PDFs.  DJVU in particular is
>> >>> useful for Internet Archive books.
>> >>>
>> >>> James Simmons
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>> Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 15:26:22 -0500
>> >>>> From: Gerald Ardito 
>> >>>> Subject: Re: [IAEP] Wanted: List of Sugar activities for the XO-1.5
>> >>>> To: Chris Ball 
>> >>>> Cc: iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org, de...@lists.laptop.org
>> >>>> Message-ID:
>> >>>>        <9403b1570911231226j58f91cafhbce60f25d00c...@mail.gmail.com>
>> >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Chris,
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I would suggest at least one of the Activities to get books, like Get
>> >>>> IA
>> >>>> Books.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Otherwise, this list looks good.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Thanks.
>> >>>> Gerald
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Re: [IAEP] Wanted: List of Sugar activities for the XO-1.5

[Claudia Urrea]

What about *SocialCalc*? I use it with measure to graph the data collected.
It can also be used to do any kind of budget, etc. People use it.. and they
are planning to release a new version with Spanish localization.

All my XOs have *VNC launcher*... I use it during workshops or demos, but I
couldn't find it in Sugar Labs.

Claudia.

On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 8:20 PM, Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero <
dir...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> It's done..let's see what people says there.
>
>
> Rafael Ortiz
>
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 7:19 AM, Tomeu Vizoso  wrote:
> > On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 18:47, Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero
> >  wrote:
> >> Also this should be asked to future XO 1.5 deployments,
> >> they could have another ideas for activities to be included in the list.
> >
> > Should we ask in olpc-sur?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Tomeu
> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Rafael Ortiz
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 11:05 AM, Jim Simmons 
> wrote:
> >>> Chris,
> >>>
> >>> I agree with Gerald on either Get Books or Get IA Books (not both).
> >>> Get Books is still being worked on by Sayamindu Dasgupta but perhaps
> >>> he could get it in shape for inclusion in time.  Right now it doesn't
> >>> work on .82, but I can't see that being an issue.
> >>>
> >>> Get IA Books works on either but is limited to the books in the
> >>> Internet Archive.  There are only about a million books there!  It is,
> >>> however, ready to go.  It isn't a popular download on ASLO but it
> >>> deserves to be.
> >>>
> >>> You might also consider Read Etexts, because of its text to speech
> >>> with highlighting feature and its own built in book search.  It only
> >>> works with Project Gutenberg titles, so no pictures.  The present
> >>> version is useable, but I'm working on a new version that supports
> >>> word wrapping on PG texts and saving font size and speech preferences
> >>> (pitch and rate).  This is a popular download on ASLO.
> >>>
> >>> I've never tried the IRC Activity so I'm not knocking it, but I wonder
> >>> if children would find that useful.  They already have Chat and Speak.
> >>>
> >>> If you're going to include Read you should consider what evince
> >>> modules, etc. to include with it.  With the right modules Read can do
> >>> DJVU, .cbz, and EPUB documents as well as PDFs.  DJVU in particular is
> >>> useful for Internet Archive books.
> >>>
> >>> James Simmons
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 15:26:22 -0500
> >>>> From: Gerald Ardito 
> >>>> Subject: Re: [IAEP] Wanted: List of Sugar activities for the XO-1.5
> >>>> To: Chris Ball 
> >>>> Cc: iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org, de...@lists.laptop.org
> >>>> Message-ID:
> >>>><9403b1570911231226j58f91cafhbce60f25d00c...@mail.gmail.com>
> >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> >>>>
> >>>> Chris,
> >>>>
> >>>> I would suggest at least one of the Activities to get books, like Get
> IA
> >>>> Books.
> >>>>
> >>>> Otherwise, this list looks good.
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks.
> >>>> Gerald
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Re: [IAEP] Wanted: List of Sugar activities for the XO-1.5

[Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero]

Hi,

It's done..let's see what people says there.


Rafael Ortiz



On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 7:19 AM, Tomeu Vizoso  wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 18:47, Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero
>  wrote:
>> Also this should be asked to future XO 1.5 deployments,
>> they could have another ideas for activities to be included in the list.
>
> Should we ask in olpc-sur?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tomeu
>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Rafael Ortiz
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 11:05 AM, Jim Simmons  wrote:
>>> Chris,
>>>
>>> I agree with Gerald on either Get Books or Get IA Books (not both).
>>> Get Books is still being worked on by Sayamindu Dasgupta but perhaps
>>> he could get it in shape for inclusion in time.  Right now it doesn't
>>> work on .82, but I can't see that being an issue.
>>>
>>> Get IA Books works on either but is limited to the books in the
>>> Internet Archive.  There are only about a million books there!  It is,
>>> however, ready to go.  It isn't a popular download on ASLO but it
>>> deserves to be.
>>>
>>> You might also consider Read Etexts, because of its text to speech
>>> with highlighting feature and its own built in book search.  It only
>>> works with Project Gutenberg titles, so no pictures.  The present
>>> version is useable, but I'm working on a new version that supports
>>> word wrapping on PG texts and saving font size and speech preferences
>>> (pitch and rate).  This is a popular download on ASLO.
>>>
>>> I've never tried the IRC Activity so I'm not knocking it, but I wonder
>>> if children would find that useful.  They already have Chat and Speak.
>>>
>>> If you're going to include Read you should consider what evince
>>> modules, etc. to include with it.  With the right modules Read can do
>>> DJVU, .cbz, and EPUB documents as well as PDFs.  DJVU in particular is
>>> useful for Internet Archive books.
>>>
>>> James Simmons
>>>
>>>
>>>> Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 15:26:22 -0500
>>>> From: Gerald Ardito 
>>>> Subject: Re: [IAEP] Wanted: List of Sugar activities for the XO-1.5
>>>> To: Chris Ball 
>>>> Cc: iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org, de...@lists.laptop.org
>>>> Message-ID:
>>>>        <9403b1570911231226j58f91cafhbce60f25d00c...@mail.gmail.com>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>>>
>>>> Chris,
>>>>
>>>> I would suggest at least one of the Activities to get books, like Get IA
>>>> Books.
>>>>
>>>> Otherwise, this list looks good.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks.
>>>> Gerald
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Re: [IAEP] Wanted: List of Sugar activities for the XO-1.5

[Tomeu Vizoso]

On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 18:47, Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero
 wrote:
> Also this should be asked to future XO 1.5 deployments,
> they could have another ideas for activities to be included in the list.

Should we ask in olpc-sur?

Thanks,

Tomeu

>
>
>
>
> Rafael Ortiz
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 11:05 AM, Jim Simmons  wrote:
>> Chris,
>>
>> I agree with Gerald on either Get Books or Get IA Books (not both).
>> Get Books is still being worked on by Sayamindu Dasgupta but perhaps
>> he could get it in shape for inclusion in time.  Right now it doesn't
>> work on .82, but I can't see that being an issue.
>>
>> Get IA Books works on either but is limited to the books in the
>> Internet Archive.  There are only about a million books there!  It is,
>> however, ready to go.  It isn't a popular download on ASLO but it
>> deserves to be.
>>
>> You might also consider Read Etexts, because of its text to speech
>> with highlighting feature and its own built in book search.  It only
>> works with Project Gutenberg titles, so no pictures.  The present
>> version is useable, but I'm working on a new version that supports
>> word wrapping on PG texts and saving font size and speech preferences
>> (pitch and rate).  This is a popular download on ASLO.
>>
>> I've never tried the IRC Activity so I'm not knocking it, but I wonder
>> if children would find that useful.  They already have Chat and Speak.
>>
>> If you're going to include Read you should consider what evince
>> modules, etc. to include with it.  With the right modules Read can do
>> DJVU, .cbz, and EPUB documents as well as PDFs.  DJVU in particular is
>> useful for Internet Archive books.
>>
>> James Simmons
>>
>>
>>> Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 15:26:22 -0500
>>> From: Gerald Ardito 
>>> Subject: Re: [IAEP] Wanted: List of Sugar activities for the XO-1.5
>>> To: Chris Ball 
>>> Cc: iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org, de...@lists.laptop.org
>>> Message-ID:
>>>        <9403b1570911231226j58f91cafhbce60f25d00c...@mail.gmail.com>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>>
>>> Chris,
>>>
>>> I would suggest at least one of the Activities to get books, like Get IA
>>> Books.
>>>
>>> Otherwise, this list looks good.
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>> Gerald
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Re: [IAEP] Wanted: List of Sugar activities for the XO-1.5

[Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero]

Also this should be asked to future XO 1.5 deployments,
they could have another ideas for activities to be included in the list.





Rafael Ortiz



On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 11:05 AM, Jim Simmons  wrote:
> Chris,
>
> I agree with Gerald on either Get Books or Get IA Books (not both).
> Get Books is still being worked on by Sayamindu Dasgupta but perhaps
> he could get it in shape for inclusion in time.  Right now it doesn't
> work on .82, but I can't see that being an issue.
>
> Get IA Books works on either but is limited to the books in the
> Internet Archive.  There are only about a million books there!  It is,
> however, ready to go.  It isn't a popular download on ASLO but it
> deserves to be.
>
> You might also consider Read Etexts, because of its text to speech
> with highlighting feature and its own built in book search.  It only
> works with Project Gutenberg titles, so no pictures.  The present
> version is useable, but I'm working on a new version that supports
> word wrapping on PG texts and saving font size and speech preferences
> (pitch and rate).  This is a popular download on ASLO.
>
> I've never tried the IRC Activity so I'm not knocking it, but I wonder
> if children would find that useful.  They already have Chat and Speak.
>
> If you're going to include Read you should consider what evince
> modules, etc. to include with it.  With the right modules Read can do
> DJVU, .cbz, and EPUB documents as well as PDFs.  DJVU in particular is
> useful for Internet Archive books.
>
> James Simmons
>
>
>> Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 15:26:22 -0500
>> From: Gerald Ardito 
>> Subject: Re: [IAEP] Wanted: List of Sugar activities for the XO-1.5
>> To: Chris Ball 
>> Cc: iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org, de...@lists.laptop.org
>> Message-ID:
>>        <9403b1570911231226j58f91cafhbce60f25d00c...@mail.gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>
>> Chris,
>>
>> I would suggest at least one of the Activities to get books, like Get IA
>> Books.
>>
>> Otherwise, this list looks good.
>>
>> Thanks.
>> Gerald
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Re: [IAEP] Wanted: List of Sugar activities for the XO-1.5

[Jim Simmons]

Chris,

I agree with Gerald on either Get Books or Get IA Books (not both).
Get Books is still being worked on by Sayamindu Dasgupta but perhaps
he could get it in shape for inclusion in time.  Right now it doesn't
work on .82, but I can't see that being an issue.

Get IA Books works on either but is limited to the books in the
Internet Archive.  There are only about a million books there!  It is,
however, ready to go.  It isn't a popular download on ASLO but it
deserves to be.

You might also consider Read Etexts, because of its text to speech
with highlighting feature and its own built in book search.  It only
works with Project Gutenberg titles, so no pictures.  The present
version is useable, but I'm working on a new version that supports
word wrapping on PG texts and saving font size and speech preferences
(pitch and rate).  This is a popular download on ASLO.

I've never tried the IRC Activity so I'm not knocking it, but I wonder
if children would find that useful.  They already have Chat and Speak.

If you're going to include Read you should consider what evince
modules, etc. to include with it.  With the right modules Read can do
DJVU, .cbz, and EPUB documents as well as PDFs.  DJVU in particular is
useful for Internet Archive books.

James Simmons


> Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 15:26:22 -0500
> From: Gerald Ardito 
> Subject: Re: [IAEP] Wanted: List of Sugar activities for the XO-1.5
> To: Chris Ball 
> Cc: iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org, de...@lists.laptop.org
> Message-ID:
>        <9403b1570911231226j58f91cafhbce60f25d00c...@mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> Chris,
>
> I would suggest at least one of the Activities to get books, like Get IA
> Books.
>
> Otherwise, this list looks good.
>
> Thanks.
> Gerald
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Re: [IAEP] Wanted: List of Sugar activities for the XO-1.5

[Gerald Ardito]

Chris,

I would suggest at least one of the Activities to get books, like Get IA
Books.

Otherwise, this list looks good.

Thanks.
Gerald

On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 2:05 PM, Chris Ball  wrote:

> Hi folks,
>
> We'd like your help in coming up with a list of default-installed
> Sugar activities for the XO-1.5 software release.  The current
> activity list, which wasn't chosen with any particular criteria
> or thoughtfulness, is:
>
> Analyze
> Browse
> Calculate
> Chat
> Distance
> Etoys
> Implode
> Infoslicer
> IRC
> Jukebox
> Labyrinth
> Log
> Maze
> Measure
> Memorize
> Moon
> Paint
> Physics
> Pippy
> Read
> Record
> Scratch
> Speak
> TamTam *
> Terminal
> Turtle Art
> Typing Turtle
> Words
> Write
>
> Any suggestions for activities to add?  A reasonable set of criteria
> for looking at the suggestions seems like:
>
> (a) works on 0.84 (and preferably 0.82)
> (b) complete translations for OLPC deployment countries
> (c) reasonably low disk space use
> (d) download popularity on activities.sugarlabs.org
>
> Thanks!
>
> - Chris.
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