Re: [IAEP] Wiki tutorial translation (was Re: Material for XO math+literacy project in Kenya)
Thanks all of you for the answers + links. I will write back when I have some sort of result to announce. Regards :) On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 3:33 PM, wrote: > On Thu, July 21, 2011 11:50 pm, Chris Leonard wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 11:25 PM, ana.cichero > > wrote: > >> a) Yes. I can help translating your tutorials for Turtle. When I don't > understand I ask. > > > > Ana, > > > > There are Mathematics tutorials using eToys that have been developed > > by Waveplace that need translation into Spanish. > > Second the motion. These are excellent materials, the best I have seen for > Smalltalk/Etoys. > > > > http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Translation_Team/Pootle_Projects#Waveplace_Lessons > > > > PO files are here: > > http://translate.sugarlabs.org/es/Waveplace/ > > > > http://wiki.waveplace.org/display/wp/Geometry+%28*%29 > > > > eToys is itself a wonderful introduction to programming concepts, you > > might find it interesting and you can work through the Basic eToys > > tutorial to get oriented. > > I would go further, and recommend these tutorials to everyone involved > with OLPC and Sugar. I am experienced in a number of programming > languages, but was having trouble with Etoys until I viewed some of these > tutorials. > > Smalltalk was designed for children to be able to use, but with sufficient > power to be useful lifelong. It is at the heart of our mission. However, > it was not designed to be learned with no help at all. ^_^ (See The > Undiscoverable on the Sugar Labs Wiki.) > > > cjl > > ___ > > IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) > > IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org > > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep > > > > > -- > Edward Mokurai > > (默雷/धर्ममेघशब्दगर्ज/دھرممیگھشبدگر > ج) Cherlin > Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation. > The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination. > http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Replacing_Textbooks > > > ___ > IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) > IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep > ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Wiki tutorial translation (was Re: Material for XO math+literacy project in Kenya)
On Thu, July 21, 2011 11:50 pm, Chris Leonard wrote: > On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 11:25 PM, ana.cichero > wrote: >> a) Yes. I can help translating your tutorials for Turtle. When I don't understand I ask. > > Ana, > > There are Mathematics tutorials using eToys that have been developed > by Waveplace that need translation into Spanish. Second the motion. These are excellent materials, the best I have seen for Smalltalk/Etoys. > http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Translation_Team/Pootle_Projects#Waveplace_Lessons > > PO files are here: > http://translate.sugarlabs.org/es/Waveplace/ > > http://wiki.waveplace.org/display/wp/Geometry+%28*%29 > > eToys is itself a wonderful introduction to programming concepts, you > might find it interesting and you can work through the Basic eToys > tutorial to get oriented. I would go further, and recommend these tutorials to everyone involved with OLPC and Sugar. I am experienced in a number of programming languages, but was having trouble with Etoys until I viewed some of these tutorials. Smalltalk was designed for children to be able to use, but with sufficient power to be useful lifelong. It is at the heart of our mission. However, it was not designed to be learned with no help at all. ^_^ (See The Undiscoverable on the Sugar Labs Wiki.) > cjl > ___ > IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) > IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep > -- Edward Mokurai (默雷/धर्ममेघशब्दगर्ज/دھرممیگھشبدگر ج) Cherlin Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Replacing_Textbooks ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Wiki tutorial translation (was Re: Material for XO math+literacy project in Kenya)
ana.cichero wrote: > I find the link empty... > a) Yes. I can help translating your tutorials for Turtle (please send me > the exact link) . Mokurai's tutorial list is here, below Tony Forster's list: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activities/TurtleArt/Tutorials (There was a stray underscore _ in the original post.) ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Wiki tutorial translation (was Re: Material for XO math+literacy project in Kenya)
Thanks for your offer but I prefer to focus mysellf in turtle, it is just because I ve done some translations for it before and because I know the guy working with translation about the use with sensors here in uruguay and so. I dont say no, just not now :) ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Wiki tutorial translation (was Re: Material for XO math+literacy project in Kenya)
On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 11:25 PM, ana.cichero wrote: > I find the link empty... > a) Yes. I can help translating your tutorials for Turtle (please send me > the exact link) . When I don t understand I ask. > b) No. Unfortunately I cannot make class planifications on the subject. Ana, There are Mathematics tutorials using eToys that have been developed by Waveplace that need translation into Spanish. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Translation_Team/Pootle_Projects#Waveplace_Lessons PO files are here: http://translate.sugarlabs.org/es/Waveplace/ http://wiki.waveplace.org/display/wp/Geometry+%28*%29 eToys is itself a wonderful introduction to programming concepts, you might find it interesting and you can work through the Basic eToys tutorial to get oriented. cjl ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Wiki tutorial translation (was Re: Material for XO math+literacy project in Kenya)
Hello Mokurai Would you take a look at > http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activities/Turtle_Art/Tutorials, and talk > with us, the Spanish translators, and the teachers about > > a) translating these pages into Spanish > b) what is needed so that teachers can use these ideas in class > > I find the link empty... a) Yes. I can help translating your tutorials for Turtle (please send me the exact link) . When I don t understand I ask. b) No. Unfortunately I cannot make class planifications on the subject. My offer for fitting in uruguayan secondary school curricular structure planifications of classes using Abacus.xo still stands. --I ve studied maths and learning for 4 full years exclusively and been working on highschools for the last 10 years, teaching from negative numbers to matrixes and integrals, but I am just an newbie when going into programming languages... sorry.-- My tutorials combine a high-level look at a topic, ideas for introducing > some part of it to children as early as possible, and a Turtle Art > demonstration of some part of the idea. Each idea needs expansion to > lesson plans, with feedback from classrooms and individual tutoring on how > they work and how they need to be improved. Each idea also needs > implementation in Logo (which we can get by automatic translation from > TA), Python, Smalltalk/Etoys, GeoGebra, and other software. > > On top of all that, we need to create a usable sequence of ideas and > examples leading from no computer (You Be the Turtle tutorial), through > introducing TA (Mathematics and Art tutorial), through the essential > concepts and techniques of programming and Computer Science, to competence > in Python, Logo, Smalltalk, and any other language of interest. > > > Ana. > > > > ps. > > Working among early grades students is harder and it less payed-- because > > traditionally upper grade studying needed society stimulation. > > In uruguay 2ndary teachers is a strictly ordered set ( 19 lists, one for > > each region) , and in that order is invited to choose --every year--- the > > grade and the school to work. Nobody wants to work with early years of > > public highschool having other choice... > > (system could help education a lot with some really little changes, but > as > > little changes don t make political issues, nobody promotes them) > > In computer programming, making many little improvements is known as > refactoring. > > http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/44936.Refactoring > > "Each refactoring step is simple-seemingly too simple to be worth doing. > Refactoring may involve moving a field from one class to another, or > pulling some code out of a method to turn it into its own method, or even > pushing some code up or down a hierarchy. While these individual steps may > seem elementary, the cumulative effect of such small changes can radically > improve the design. Refactoring is a proven way to prevent software > decay." > > The payoff is huge. We must find incentives to work on it. Perhaps for > some teachers, being able to affect the design of the teaching may be a > useful incentive. I know that in the profession generally, the biggest > incentive available is the possibility of teaching effectively. > > Thanks for the concept of refactoring, educational system would take great advatange of it, but I don t see in my place any political interest on that. It is just a fact. As you say, the possibility of teaching effectively can be enaugh reward, but I learnt ---in these working years-- that your individual effort can fail completely when working among a disfunctional system and we must not row with a strong current against :) > ___ > > IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) > > IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org > > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep > > > -- > Edward Mokurai > > (默雷/धर्ममेघशब्दगर्ज/دھرممیگھشبدگر > ج) Cherlin > Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation. > The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination. > http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Replacing_Textbooks > > > ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
