Re: [IAEP] voip.sugarlabs.org

[Bernie Innocenti]

[cc += daf]

El Fri, 30-10-2009 a las 14:46 +0100, David Van Assche escribió:
> Surely it would make more sense to take it down a level and use
> telepathy as the comms insftracture and from there use SIP where
> needed, but also chat, MUC, dbus-dbus tubes, video and audio group
> streaming and everything else xmpp is so good at. A communications box
> if you will, with it being kinda like the master with the jabber
> server installed on it? food for thought?

The telepathy stack uses SIP for VOIP anyway. Even though SIP is a
peer-to-peer technology, you need a PBX such as Asterisk in the middle
if you're going to do conferencing.

Daf, one of the Collabora devs, told me last week that they're working
on P2P SIP conferencing. Probably an implementation of Jingle?

  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jingle_%28protocol%29

Multi-user chat without any infrastructure would be amazing, but I doubt
it can be made scale beyond a small number of nodes. And I doubt we can
find mature clients at this time.

For now, I'd suggest setting up a "traditional" Asterisk PBX and switch
to XMPP/Jingle when things mature a little. Daf of course might come up
with a better idea.

BTW: did you know that every Sunjammer account also includes a Jabber
account too? the JID is usern...@sugarlabs.org and the password is the
same of the LDAP password. SSL/TLS is mandatory.

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Re: [IAEP] voip.sugarlabs.org

[David Van Assche]

Surely it would make more sense to take it down a level and use
telepathy as the comms insftracture and from there use SIP where
needed, but also chat, MUC, dbus-dbus tubes, video and audio group
streaming and everything else xmpp is so good at. A communications box
if you will, with it being kinda like the master with the jabber
server installed on it? food for thought?

On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 9:07 AM, Sean DALY  wrote:
> Potentially, this could be particularly interesting for press briefings.
>
> Effective PR structure, involves inviting a small group of journalists to
> briefings, usually just prior to launches, or to put out PR fires.
>
> When the group is small, listen/talk can be open to everyone. For
> larger groups, it's listen-only and a moderator handles a question
> queue, opening talk to key questioners in turn.
>
> There are of course lots of commercial services for this type of
> thing, but it would be great if we had that available to us.
>
> Sean
>
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 4:16 AM, Bernie Innocenti  wrote:
>> El Thu, 29-10-2009 a las 15:58 -0700, Sameer Verma escribió:
>>
>>> Hi Bernie,
>>> What's the purpose of this VoIP box?
>>
>> Primarily conferencing. In the future, we might want to use it for
>> end-user technical support and things like that.
>>
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Re: [IAEP] voip.sugarlabs.org

[Sean DALY]

Potentially, this could be particularly interesting for press briefings.

Effective PR involves inviting a small group of journalists to
briefings, usually just prior to launches, or to put out PR fires.

When the group is small, listen/talk can be open to everyone. For
larger groups, it's listen-only and a moderator handles a question
queue, opening talk to key questioners in turn.

There are of course lots of commercial services for this type of
thing, but it would be great if we had that available to us.

Sean



On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 4:16 AM, Bernie Innocenti  wrote:
> El Thu, 29-10-2009 a las 15:58 -0700, Sameer Verma escribió:
>
>> Hi Bernie,
>> What's the purpose of this VoIP box?
>
> Primarily conferencing. In the future, we might want to use it for
> end-user technical support and things like that.
>
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Re: [IAEP] voip.sugarlabs.org

[Bernie Innocenti]

El Thu, 29-10-2009 a las 15:58 -0700, Sameer Verma escribió:

> Hi Bernie,
> What's the purpose of this VoIP box?

Primarily conferencing. In the future, we might want to use it for
end-user technical support and things like that.

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Re: [IAEP] voip.sugarlabs.org

[Sameer Verma]

On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 11:47 AM, Bernie Innocenti  wrote:
> A few months ago, I've set up a VOIP box based on Trixbox
> () with the goal of providing conference rooms
> for the Sugar community, especially the less geeky teams.
>
> Since then, this VM has been sitting idle on bender (and later on
> treehouse), waiting for me to find some time to finish testing it and
> transition it into production.
>
> Would anyone want to take over and complete the work form here? I know
> Trixbox very well because I've used it in production for 3-4 years in
> Italy. It used to be a bit messy and kludgy, but very reliable and
> feature-complete.
>
> The ideal candidate for this job would would have strong background on
> Asterisk and PBX-side SIP in general, but enthusiasm for this technology
> can certainly compensate lack of experience. I can offer guidance on IRC
> and via VOIP (when it works).
>
> Anyone interested please send your resume to syst...@lists.sugarlabs.org
> complete with your IRC contact information. Pay: $0.00/h non-negotiable.
> Benefits: free VOIP and shell access on prestigious server, work with
> dynamic team in a professionally stimulating environment, help save the
> world, and all that.
>
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Hi Bernie,
What's the purpose of this VoIP box?

Sameer
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