Re: [ibm-acpi-devel] [PATCH v3 0/7] Support inhibiting input devices

2020-06-07 Thread Dmitry Torokhov
On Sun, Jun 07, 2020 at 10:24:14PM +0200, Pavel Machek wrote:
> On Fri 2020-06-05 19:33:28, Andrzej Pietrasiewicz wrote:
> > Userspace might want to implement a policy to temporarily disregard input
> > from certain devices.
> 
> Wow, you certainly cc a lot of lists.
> 
> > An example use case is a convertible laptop, whose keyboard can be folded
> > under the screen to create tablet-like experience. The user then must hold
> > the laptop in such a way that it is difficult to avoid pressing the keyboard
> > keys. It is therefore desirable to temporarily disregard input from the
> > keyboard, until it is folded back. This obviously is a policy which should
> > be kept out of the kernel, but the kernel must provide suitable means to
> > implement such a policy.
> > 
> > Due to interactions with suspend/resume, a helper has been added for drivers
> > to decide if the device is being used or not (PATCH 1/7) and it has been
> > applied to relevant drivers (PATCH 2,4,5,6/7).
> 
> But is that a right way to implement it?
> 
> We want this for cellphones, too -- touchscreen should be disabled
> while the device is locked in the pocket -- but we really want the
> touchscreen hardware to be powered down in that case (because it keeps
> SoC busy and eats a _lot_ of electricity).
> 
> But simplistic "receive an event and then drop it if device is
> inhibited" does not allow that...

I do not think you read the entirety of this patch series...

Thanks.

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Dmitry


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Re: [ibm-acpi-devel] [PATCH v3 0/7] Support inhibiting input devices

2020-06-07 Thread Pavel Machek
On Fri 2020-06-05 19:33:28, Andrzej Pietrasiewicz wrote:
> Userspace might want to implement a policy to temporarily disregard input
> from certain devices.

Wow, you certainly cc a lot of lists.

> An example use case is a convertible laptop, whose keyboard can be folded
> under the screen to create tablet-like experience. The user then must hold
> the laptop in such a way that it is difficult to avoid pressing the keyboard
> keys. It is therefore desirable to temporarily disregard input from the
> keyboard, until it is folded back. This obviously is a policy which should
> be kept out of the kernel, but the kernel must provide suitable means to
> implement such a policy.
> 
> Due to interactions with suspend/resume, a helper has been added for drivers
> to decide if the device is being used or not (PATCH 1/7) and it has been
> applied to relevant drivers (PATCH 2,4,5,6/7).

But is that a right way to implement it?

We want this for cellphones, too -- touchscreen should be disabled
while the device is locked in the pocket -- but we really want the
touchscreen hardware to be powered down in that case (because it keeps
SoC busy and eats a _lot_ of electricity).

But simplistic "receive an event and then drop it if device is
inhibited" does not allow that...

Best regards,
Pavel

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