Solaris on z

2007-08-18 Thread David Boyes
Just minor correction: Sun and IBM are collaborating with Sine Noimine to get 
Solaris on Z. Neither company is doing the work.

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Re: Listing HIPERS

2007-08-18 Thread Clark Morris
On 16 Aug 2007 14:28:30 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:

On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 16:44:03 -0300, Clark Morris wrote:

Does the report ERROR SYSMODS tell you if you have an error against a
function or PTF that has been ACCEPTED?  Many years ago if the sysmod
was ACCEPTED the PE wouldn't show.

AFAIK it works fine.

Did you weren't running the REPORT ERRSYSMODS against the global zone 
after doing a REJECT of what was accepted?  I'd expect those not to show 
up, since they are no longer in RECIEVE status.  IMO, the REPORT 
ERRSYSMODS of the global zone isn't very interesting.

The last time that I would have done active SMP work was 1991 and
probably earlier than that.  Subsequent time has been spent on the
bench or in applications.  I was on a year 2000 project and did
applications support and wrote a library inventory matching system
using IDRDATA and other load module information, parsed source and
copy library information and other interesting things to support
conversion to LE and maintaining synchronization between Y2K source
and production source.

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Re: Solaris on z

2007-08-18 Thread legolas wood
Is there any prediction about date that first version of Solaris on Z 
will release?


Thanks

David Boyes wrote:

Just minor correction: Sun and IBM are collaborating with Sine Noimine to get 
Solaris on Z. Neither company is doing the work.

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Re: Outsourcing loosing steam?

2007-08-18 Thread Rick Fochtman

---snip--
I would not dignify anything to do with fluid dynamics as *physics* 
which my schooling taught me dealt with topics to which some theoretical 
explanations can be applied.

unsnip
Since my background is, in part, in physics, I have to disagree, Chris. 
While it may seem that fluid dynamics is all empirical, there's good 
theoretical background as well. Look at Brownian motion, which is the 
basis for properties like fluid density, temperature and pressure. The 
calculations are numbing, to say the least, but the basis is there. 
Thankfully, the practical results can be expressed empirically, to a 
fair degree of accuracy, with much simpler calculations. Most of those 
calculations are distillations of some rather tedious partial 
differential equations.


Rick

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Re: Distance between primary and DR site

2007-08-18 Thread Thomas Berg

==  Ed Gould  ==  wrote2007-08-17 22:48:

On Aug 17, 2007, at 2:26 PM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote:


In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 08/05/2007
   at 08:42 AM, Binyamin Dissen [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:


I take it that you have not considered the possibility of a
supernova.


The Sun is a yellow dwarf; going supernova is not an option. However,
much less significant misbehavior could still put paid to us.




Agreed. I saw a science show and was informed that in 4.5 Billion years 
our galaxy was going to collide with Andromida galaxy (Sp?) .. Talk 
about long term positioning. I think there was also some indication that 
was just about the same time the sun would die. So take your pick ...




To add to this slightly OT headed thread: the sun will slowly increase
it's output of energy and after 500 million years make the life on earth
impossible due to the increased temperature.

Thomas Berg

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Re: SMS Question - Urgent

2007-08-18 Thread Ambat Ravi Nair

** DON'T PANIC **

take several deep breaths ... and think ...


your 3.2 screen shows:

Storage class . . . : PRODVSAM
Organization  . . . : PS
Record format . . . : VB


as Tom pointed out, wrong DSORG - should show up as VS (at least).


from the ISMF test screen Lizette has wonderfully captured, test your 
ACS script with additional info:


DSN (DSN/Collection Name) . . REFPROD.REF.DNO

Dsorg . . . . VS
Recorg  . . . KS

Dsntype . . . . . EXT
  If Ext  . . . . Y


to get SMS-managed, the dataset has to have a STORCLAS assigned first; 
STORGRUP  MGMTCLAS follow thereafter (DATACLAS is generally optional).


DATACLAS can be assigned to both SMS  non-SMS datasets ...


let's start tracing from your STORCLAS ACS routine.


- ravi.

ps: i take it your site does not have ACC/SRS, or StopX37/II ... so the 
source of the problem is confined only to your ACS routines.




Dean Montevago wrote:

I just did a 3.2 allocate

 Data Set Name . . . . : REFPROD.REF.DNO

 General Data   Current Allocation  
  Management class . . : **None**Allocated blocks  . : 15   
  Storage class  . . . : PRODVSAMAllocated extents . : 1  
  Volume serial . . . : VSAM02
  Device type . . . . : 3390  
  Data class . . . . . : PRODVSAM   Current Utilization   
  Organization  . . . : PS  Used blocks . . . . : 0
  Record format . . . : VB  Used extents  . . . : 0
  Record length . . . : 251   
  Block size  . . . . : 3120  
  1st extent blocks . : 15   
  Secondary blocks  . : 2
  Data set name type  : EXTENDEDSMS Compressible  :   NO   
 
  Creation date . . . : 2007/08/17  Referenced date . . : ***None***   
   Expiration date . . : ***None*** 


both write statements hit as well. don't know what's going on here, only had 2 
hours sleep last night because if this, fading fast. someone please enlighten me


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Re: 4331 weight

2007-08-18 Thread Brian Westerman
I have a 4341 shrink-wrapped in my garage, but that won't really help since
I think the 4331's were a little smaller.

Brian

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Re: 4331 weight

2007-08-18 Thread Todd Burch
OK, I give.  What are you going to do with it?That's not a small
machine.  I used to fix them when I worked for IBM in the early 80's.  



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I have a 4341 shrink-wrapped in my garage, but that won't really help since
I think the 4331's were a little smaller.

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List of Withdrawn products from IBM

2007-08-18 Thread Ed Gould

The list of withdrawn products at
http://www-03.ibm.com/support/techdocs/atsmastr.nsf/WebIndex/FLASH10451
was a pleasant surprise to me.

I do not want to disagree with IBM (at all) in their announcement.  
I think that this list was a long time in coming. I just wish there  
was a better way to get the information out to sysprogs and  
management. I have not been to SHARE it a few years, I would hope  
that IBM is doing their job in disseminating this type of information.


Is the SHARE MVS group getting this type of information out? I am  
just afraid that someone is going to be surprised upon installation  
of a servpac. I have thought about this and because SE's no longer  
exist there doesn't seem to me anyway IBM can communicate any longer  
to the sysprogs. Has anyone come up with a sure fire way of getting  
this type of information out to the right people?


Ed

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Re: 4331 weight

2007-08-18 Thread Brian Westerman
I have several machines now, a 9672 a 4381, a 4341, a 4321, a NAS AS700 a
3081D and a System/3 and a 370/145.

I also have a string of 3330's, 3340's, 3350's and 3380's and a 2305 with
several replacement parts and several printers from a 1403 up and some
telecom equipment from several vendors and a bunch of odds and ends.

At the time I shrink wrapped them they all worked fine, although I'm not
sure about the 370 because I had a problem when I moved it into the garage.
 When I bought my house, it came with a detached 5 car garage, and a local
university was getting rid of their old computer room (they had long since
disposed of their mainframe) so I offered to dismantle and cart off their
raised floor.  So now about 1/2 of the garage has a raised floor, although
I'm not sure about moving the big iron on to it because of the weight.  At
some point I'm hoping to be able to donate the equipment like I did when I
lived back east, but in the mean time it's just a hobby.

Brian

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