Re: clock, daylight savings time
---snip And modern day politicians found a cheap solution to energy use that didn't work and cost a lot, but made it look as though they were useful (not to mention it allowed them to use power). ---unsnip--- Anyone ready to declare Open Season on politicians? :-) Maybe we should put a BOUNTY on them! :-) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: z/OS 1.7 to z/OS 1.9 Migration - Increase in CPU/MSU Consumption
On Sun, 16 Mar 2008 10:49:24 -0500 Rick Fochtman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: :---snip- : I'll accept some of the responsibility for your confusion, Walt. I : first used the words 5% decrease in utilization to describe how many : fewer resources the operating system was expected to use. I see now : how that phrase might be misinterpreted. (Ted's comments just added to : the confusion.) A better, non-ambiguous, wording choice would have : been to say 5% performance improvement like Cheryl did. (I guess : that's why they pay her the big bucks. :-) :---unsnip- :I can't help but stick my oar in here. :It appears that comparisons and branches are being combined into single :instructions on the z/10 processor. I would estimate that when z/OS, or :its successor, requires a minimum of a z/10 processor, we'll see further :improvements in operating system performance, and perhaps a slight :improvement in storage utilization. While older version of z/os (or any :other system) will PROBABLY continue to run, later versions will utilize :these new instructions heavily, with improvements as each component is :updated. Considering the number of compares followed by branches that :must be present in any operating systems, these new instructions MUST :represent performance improvements. But until application code starts using, i.e., the compilers generate z10 code, the performance improvement of just the supervisor will not make THAT big a deal. -- Binyamin Dissen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.dissensoftware.com Director, Dissen Software, Bar Grill - Israel Should you use the mailblocks package and expect a response from me, you should preauthorize the dissensoftware.com domain. I very rarely bother responding to challenge/response systems, especially those from irresponsible companies. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: z/OS and Linux on same z/VM Image
I don't see how prices won't go up, unless IBM offers a package deal with z/VM - z/OS and Linux...With the current state of the economy most shops are looking for a cheaper alternative ...to spending a lot for software and people of course... Scott, IDF -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Timothy Sipples Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2008 12:42 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: z/OS and Linux on same z/VM Image John McKown writes: ...the CPs running z/VM and z/Linux still cause the z/OS software prices to go up (in many cases). Assuming VWLC, I'm trying to figure out why that would be true. I could see how running some Linux workload on CPs might cause z/OS software charges to *decrease*, though. Mark Post writes: My understanding was that within a particular z/VM guest, you would still have the restriction of not mixing IFLs and other processor types. I don't think IBM's Statement of Direction gets into that level of detail, so we'll have to see how things evolve. But, even if so, that wouldn't be a particularly onerous restriction IMHO. - - - - - Timothy Sipples IBM Consulting Enterprise Software Architect Specializing in Software Architectures Related to System z Based in Tokyo, Serving IBM Japan and IBM Asia-Pacific E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: z/OS 1.7 to z/OS 1.9 Migration - Increase in CPU/MSU Consumption
Binyamin Dissen wrote: But until application code starts using, i.e., the compilers generate z10 code, the performance improvement of just the supervisor will not make THAT big a deal. The compilers are already supporting z10 via ARCH(8)/TUNE(8). See http://www.ibm.com/software/awdtools/czos/features/technical.html -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 5200 W Century Blvd, Suite 800 Los Angeles, CA 90045 310-338-0400 x318 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: JES2 routcde issue
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 03/14/2008 at 01:40 PM, John Norgauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Am modifying IEFACTRT and want to suppress the output to my hardcopy SYSLOG. I can't remember the JES2 commands that displays the destinations of the ROUTCDEs Forget JES2; look in the Systems Commands manual. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SDSF GIVING ACCESS TO THE LOG COMMAND
Try and narrow down whether you are using a PARMLIB(ISFPARM) member to control SDSF access or RACF with commands. You do not use both unless you want to stay confused. our results may vary, sometimes have the user logon again helps refresh that access you might be lacking. RDEFINE and PERMIT are standard Security Server (RACF) commands documented in the manuals for that product. You issue the commands from TSO environment. On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 14:15:24 -0500, John C. Wolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am trying to give a user access to the SDSF LOG display command and I am having trouble doing so. I have added the LOG keyword to the AUTH part of his ISPFPARM member but try as I mite I can't get it to show up on his SDSF menu. Now this user is just a user and not a sysprog or any thing like that. I looking in the SDSF Operation and Customization book on page 160 there is a a section that talks about setting up generic profiles and an example of protecting commands complete with REDEFINE and PERMIT commands but no were, that I can find, does this book explain how to go about and do this. I know that I am over looking something but for the life of me I can't find it. This book is the only one that I can find on the IBM web site which covers SDSF.This is the site which has all the books per release of z/OS. We are on z/OS 1.7. Thanks for any help you guys/gals can give me. John Wolf sysprog v. 513-556-0009 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: clock, daylight savings time
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Rick Fochtman ---snip And modern day politicians found a cheap solution to energy use that didn't work and cost a lot, but made it look as though they were useful (not to mention it allowed them to use power). ---unsnip--- Anyone ready to declare Open Season on politicians? :-) Maybe we should put a BOUNTY on them! :-) Well, we DO have our (U.S.) biennial revolution day coming Nov. 4 this year. I suspect it'll pass unnoticed again, and most if not all the incumbents will be re-elected.. -jc- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: z/OS and Linux on same z/VM Image
On Sun, 16 Mar 2008 14:39:12 -0400, Scott Ford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't see how prices won't go up, unless IBM offers a package deal with z/VM - z/OS and Linux...With the current state of the economy most shops are looking for a cheaper alternative ...to spending a lot for software and people of course... With subcap pricing on z/OS, you can add CPs for use by a z/VM LPAR. If you dedicate those CPs to the z/VM LPAR, your existing z/OS partition won't see an increase in MSU capacity. When you bring up z/OS as a guest on the z/VM LPAR, it will report MSU usage consistent with the share of the CPU it gets from z/VM (SET SHARE). So to the extent you use (and benefit from) z/OS running as a guest (with virtual CFs!), yes, it will cost extra. On the other hand you may find that your dev/test environments are cheaper to deploy in virtual machines than in LPARs. Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html