Re: 3270 Data Stream Device Guide
Frank I don't know how I missed it before since I get a daily digest of CICS-L traffic, but I see from the latest such digest that your original post with this content was on CICS-L. *Now* I see that the Guide you have in mind is the CICS(various) IBM 3270 Data Stream Device Guide , a manual of some antiquity in its origins. I remembered Google, and did in fact find the Reference, but some CICS documentation refers to a Guide, and this is what I am not able to find. But probably I can live with just the Reference. *Now* I understand your insistence there had to be a Guide to go along - apparently - with the venerable 3270 Information Display System: Data Stream Programmer's Reference. There is, of course, no way in which the two manuals can be regarded as some sort of Guide/Reference pair as in the case, for example, of the z/OS Communications Server IP manuals. Well, I'm glad I've got that sorted out! Chris Mason On Wed, 14 Apr 2010 11:18:05 -0600, Frank Swarbrick frank.swarbr...@efirstbank.com wrote: Does anyone have a good link to this manual? Everyone I try seems to be dead. I'm specifically looking for the standard for sending data to a LU type 3 (simulated) device (simulated with Netspool). We are migrating to z/OS from VSE and the behavior we have for CICS printing on VSE seems to be slightly different than Netspool is doing. So I'd like to get an authoritative guide. I am also interested in the authoritative guide on SCS printers (LU type 1). Thanks! Frank -- Frank Swarbrick Applications Architect - Mainframe Applications Development FirstBank Data Corporation - Lakewood, CO USA P: 303-235-1403 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
3270 Data Stream Device Guide
Does anyone have a good link to this manual? Everyone I try seems to be dead. I'm specifically looking for the standard for sending data to a LU type 3 (simulated) device (simulated with Netspool). We are migrating to z/OS from VSE and the behavior we have for CICS printing on VSE seems to be slightly different than Netspool is doing. So I'd like to get an authoritative guide. I am also interested in the authoritative guide on SCS printers (LU type 1). Thanks! Frank -- Frank Swarbrick Applications Architect - Mainframe Applications Development FirstBank Data Corporation - Lakewood, CO USA P: 303-235-1403 The information contained in this electronic communication and any document attached hereto or transmitted herewith is confidential and intended for the exclusive use of the individual or entity named above. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient or the employee or agent responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any examination, use, dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication or any part thereof is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please immediately notify the sender by reply e-mail and destroy this communication. Thank you. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: 3270 Data Stream Device Guide
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Frank Swarbrick Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 12:18 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: 3270 Data Stream Device Guide Does anyone have a good link to this manual? Everyone I try seems to be dead. I'm specifically looking for the standard for sending data to a LU type 3 (simulated) device (simulated with Netspool). We are migrating to z/OS from VSE and the behavior we have for CICS printing on VSE seems to be slightly different than Netspool is doing. So I'd like to get an authoritative guide. I am also interested in the authoritative guide on SCS printers (LU type 1). Thanks! Frank -- Frank Swarbrick I just now used: http://publibfp.dhe.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr/BOOKS/cn7p4000/CCONTENTS Title: 3270 Data Stream Programmer's Reference Document Number: GA23-0059-07 Build Date: 06/26/92 11:20:04 Build Version: 1.2 Document Path: /home/webapps/epubs/htdocs/book/cn7p4000.boo -- John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets(r) 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010 (817) 255-3225 phone * (817)-961-6183 cell john.mck...@healthmarkets.com * www.HealthMarkets.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message may contain confidential or proprietary information. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. HealthMarkets(r) is the brand name for products underwritten and issued by the insurance subsidiaries of HealthMarkets, Inc. -The Chesapeake Life Insurance Company(r), Mid-West National Life Insurance Company of TennesseeSM and The MEGA Life and Health Insurance Company.SM -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: 3270 Data Stream Device Guide
Hi Frank, From what you wrote, I believe that you are looking for the 3270 data stream (i.e. the contents of the RU) rather than the SNA encapsulation and protocol. If so, the data stream is described at http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/CN7P4000/CCONTENTS?SHELF=EZ2HW125DN=GA23-0059-07DT=19920626112004 Cheers, Alan -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Frank Swarbrick Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 10:18 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: 3270 Data Stream Device Guide Does anyone have a good link to this manual? Everyone I try seems to be dead. I'm specifically looking for the standard for sending data to a LU type 3 (simulated) device (simulated with Netspool). We are migrating to z/OS from VSE and the behavior we have for CICS printing on VSE seems to be slightly different than Netspool is doing. So I'd like to get an authoritative guide. I am also interested in the authoritative guide on SCS printers (LU type 1). Thanks! Frank -- Frank Swarbrick Applications Architect - Mainframe Applications Development FirstBank Data Corporation - Lakewood, CO USA P: 303-235-1403 The information contained in this electronic communication and any document attached hereto or transmitted herewith is confidential and intended for the exclusive use of the individual or entity named above. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient or the employee or agent responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any examination, use, dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication or any part thereof is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please immediately notify the sender by reply e-mail and destroy this communication. Thank you. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: 3270 Data Stream Device Guide
Frank The IBM page which supposedly gives you access to GA23-0059-07 is a Norwegian blue pining for the fiords. I was thinking of a punishment suitable for whomever in IBM is responsible for this but I'd better not say it in a family list. Meantime we can thank someone on the hercules390 list for having preserved the manual: http://cs.unomaha.edu/~stanw/3270.pdf Remember Google is your friend! Chris Mason On Wed, 14 Apr 2010 11:18:05 -0600, Frank Swarbrick frank.swarbr...@efirstbank.com wrote: Does anyone have a good link to this manual? Everyone I try seems to be dead. I'm specifically looking for the standard for sending data to a LU type 3 (simulated) device (simulated with Netspool). We are migrating to z/OS from VSE and the behavior we have for CICS printing on VSE seems to be slightly different than Netspool is doing. So I'd like to get an authoritative guide. I am also interested in the authoritative guide on SCS printers (LU type 1). Thanks! Frank -- Frank Swarbrick Applications Architect - Mainframe Applications Development FirstBank Data Corporation - Lakewood, CO USA P: 303-235-1403 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: 3270 Data Stream Device Guide
I remembered Google, and did in fact find the Reference, but some CICS documentation refers to a Guide, and this is what I am not able to find. But probably I can live with just the Reference. Thanks! -- Frank Swarbrick Applications Architect - Mainframe Applications Development FirstBank Data Corporation - Lakewood, CO USA P: 303-235-1403 On 4/14/2010 at 12:04 PM, in message listserv%201004141304136064.0...@bama.ua.edu, Chris Mason chrisma...@belgacom.net wrote: Frank The IBM page which supposedly gives you access to GA23-0059-07 is a Norwegian blue pining for the fiords. I was thinking of a punishment suitable for whomever in IBM is responsible for this but I'd better not say it in a family list. Meantime we can thank someone on the hercules390 list for having preserved the manual: http://cs.unomaha.edu/~stanw/3270.pdf Remember Google is your friend! Chris Mason On Wed, 14 Apr 2010 11:18:05 -0600, Frank Swarbrick frank.swarbr...@efirstbank.com wrote: Does anyone have a good link to this manual? Everyone I try seems to be dead. I'm specifically looking for the standard for sending data to a LU type 3 (simulated) device (simulated with Netspool). We are migrating to z/OS from VSE and the behavior we have for CICS printing on VSE seems to be slightly different than Netspool is doing. So I'd like to get an authoritative guide. I am also interested in the authoritative guide on SCS printers (LU type 1). Thanks! Frank -- Frank Swarbrick Applications Architect - Mainframe Applications Development FirstBank Data Corporation - Lakewood, CO USA P: 303-235-1403 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html The information contained in this electronic communication and any document attached hereto or transmitted herewith is confidential and intended for the exclusive use of the individual or entity named above. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient or the employee or agent responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any examination, use, dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication or any part thereof is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please immediately notify the sender by reply e-mail and destroy this communication. Thank you. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: 3270 Data Stream Device Guide
It's interesting that I can find the older manual for 3171, 3172 and 3175 (GA23-0060) but NOT the newer manual for 3174 (GA23-0061). Nonetheless, I believe that information contained in the following manual may be relevant to your purpose. http://bitsavers.org/pdf/ibm/3270/GA23-0060-0_3271_3272_3275_Description_and_Programmers_Guide_Nov80.pdf BTW: this bitsavers site is a treasure! You can find Functional Characteristics books for all of the original 370 machines, system 360 books and lots of the earlier stuff too. I believe that the 1400 series recently celebrated its 50th. I was therefore amused to find its Reference from 1962 (be warned that it is an image scan = 25MB). http://bitsavers.org/pdf/ibm/140x/A24-1403-5_1401_Reference_Apr62.pdf Cheers, Alan -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Frank Swarbrick Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 11:48 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: 3270 Data Stream Device Guide I remembered Google, and did in fact find the Reference, but some CICS documentation refers to a Guide, and this is what I am not able to find. But probably I can live with just the Reference. Thanks! -- Frank Swarbrick Applications Architect - Mainframe Applications Development FirstBank Data Corporation - Lakewood, CO USA P: 303-235-1403 On 4/14/2010 at 12:04 PM, in message listserv%201004141304136064.0...@bama.ua.edu, Chris Mason chrisma...@belgacom.net wrote: Frank The IBM page which supposedly gives you access to GA23-0059-07 is a Norwegian blue pining for the fiords. I was thinking of a punishment suitable for whomever in IBM is responsible for this but I'd better not say it in a family list. Meantime we can thank someone on the hercules390 list for having preserved the manual: http://cs.unomaha.edu/~stanw/3270.pdf Remember Google is your friend! Chris Mason On Wed, 14 Apr 2010 11:18:05 -0600, Frank Swarbrick frank.swarbr...@efirstbank.com wrote: Does anyone have a good link to this manual? Everyone I try seems to be dead. I'm specifically looking for the standard for sending data to a LU type 3 (simulated) device (simulated with Netspool). We are migrating to z/OS from VSE and the behavior we have for CICS printing on VSE seems to be slightly different than Netspool is doing. So I'd like to get an authoritative guide. I am also interested in the authoritative guide on SCS printers (LU type 1). Thanks! Frank -- Frank Swarbrick Applications Architect - Mainframe Applications Development FirstBank Data Corporation - Lakewood, CO USA P: 303-235-1403 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html The information contained in this electronic communication and any document attached hereto or transmitted herewith is confidential and intended for the exclusive use of the individual or entity named above. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient or the employee or agent responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any examination, use, dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication or any part thereof is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please immediately notify the sender by reply e-mail and destroy this communication. Thank you. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: 3270 Data Stream Device Guide
Frank If you do what you are supposed to do and use IBM's Search function, you end up with one of those blood-pressure danger panels with the words Our apologiesÂ… prominently but disingenuously displayed: http://www.ibm.com/publications/servlet/pbi.wss? CTY=USFNC=SRXPBL=GA23-0059-07 Since two are reporting success (by some serendipitous means ?), I wondered if Michael Palin really was right and it was just resting but I'm pretty sure John Cleese's assessment was the more accurate. In the days when I was on top of this topic, my little presentation covering it mentions only 4 manuals as reference: 1. 3270 Information Display System: Data Stream Programmer's Reference, GA23-0059 2. 3270 Buffer Address Codes, GA23-0057 3. 3270 Information Display System: 3274 Control Unit: Description and Programmer's Guide, GA23-0061 4. 3174 Subsystem Control Unit: Functional Description, GA23-0218 Probably you need only 1 and 4 in order to cover your investigations. I'm sure I would have known if there was ever a Data Stream Programmer's Guide - and I never heard of one! There is one hit using Google for Data Stream Programmer's Guide. The form number is given as GA23-0059. In other words, a typo in one of those so helpful list or whatever responses we all love so much ... http://fixunix.com/websphere/211131-how-convert-3270-data-stream-mq- message.html Chris Mason On Wed, 14 Apr 2010 12:48:17 -0600, Frank Swarbrick frank.swarbr...@efirstbank.com wrote: I remembered Google, and did in fact find the Reference, but some CICS documentation refers to a Guide, and this is what I am not able to find. But probably I can live with just the Reference. Thanks! -- Frank Swarbrick Applications Architect - Mainframe Applications Development FirstBank Data Corporation - Lakewood, CO USA P: 303-235-1403 On 4/14/2010 at 12:04 PM, in message listserv%201004141304136064.0...@bama.ua.edu, Chris Mason chrisma...@belgacom.net wrote: Frank The IBM page which supposedly gives you access to GA23-0059-07 is a Norwegian blue pining for the fiords. I was thinking of a punishment suitable for whomever in IBM is responsible for this but I'd better not say it in a family list. Meantime we can thank someone on the hercules390 list for having preserved the manual: http://cs.unomaha.edu/~stanw/3270.pdf Remember Google is your friend! Chris Mason On Wed, 14 Apr 2010 11:18:05 -0600, Frank Swarbrick frank.swarbr...@efirstbank.com wrote: Does anyone have a good link to this manual? Everyone I try seems to be dead. I'm specifically looking for the standard for sending data to a LU type 3 (simulated) device (simulated with Netspool). We are migrating to z/OS from VSE and the behavior we have for CICS printing on VSE seems to be slightly different than Netspool is doing. So I'd like to get an authoritative guide. I am also interested in the authoritative guide on SCS printers (LU type 1). Thanks! Frank -- Frank Swarbrick Applications Architect - Mainframe Applications Development FirstBank Data Corporation - Lakewood, CO USA P: 303-235-1403 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
