Re: 9672 R45 with zOS 1.4
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thomas/Paolo, This is very strange. We've been told by IBM that inorder run anything higher than OS/390 2.10, we had to go to a z box. We're currently running OS/390 2.6 on a 9672 R83. snip That's not correct. z/OS R5 supports G5, G6, and MP3000 processors. z/OS R6 and up require an IBM zSeries or System z9 server. However, the currently orderable release is z/OS R7, which *does* require a zSeries or System z9. This is all documented in z/OS Planning for Installation for whichever release you are running or considering, by the way. -- John Eells z/OS Technical Marketing IBM Poughkeepsie [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: 9672 R45 with zOS 1.4
Hello Dude, we are running a 9672-R46 in our DR Site. It's running fine with z/OS 1.4. But we have to think about a new box, becourse we want to migrate to z/OS 1.7 next year. Regards, Paolo Pirillo -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: 9672 R45 with zOS 1.4
Sorry, I should have said you can't go higher than OS/390 V2R10 on a 9672-R45 (G4) box. Regards, Tom Conley - Original Message - From: Paolo Pirillo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 4:06 AM Subject: Re: 9672 R45 with zOS 1.4 Hello Dude, we are running a 9672-R46 in our DR Site. It's running fine with z/OS 1.4. But we have to think about a new box, becourse we want to migrate to z/OS 1.7 next year. Regards, Paolo Pirillo -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: 9672 R45 with zOS 1.4
Thomas/Paolo, This is very strange. We've been told by IBM that inorder run anything higher than OS/390 2.10, we had to go to a z box. We're currently running OS/390 2.6 on a 9672 R83. Thomas Conley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU 02/07/2006 09:25 AM Please respond to IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU To IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU cc Subject Re: 9672 R45 with zOS 1.4 Sorry, I should have said you can't go higher than OS/390 V2R10 on a 9672-R45 (G4) box. Regards, Tom Conley - Original Message - From: Paolo Pirillo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 4:06 AM Subject: Re: 9672 R45 with zOS 1.4 Hello Dude, we are running a 9672-R46 in our DR Site. It's running fine with z/OS 1.4. But we have to think about a new box, becourse we want to migrate to z/OS 1.7 next year. Regards, Paolo Pirillo -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: 9672 R45 with zOS 1.4
Not true. z/OS 1.1 to 1.5 can run in 31-bit mode, so it can run on *some* 9672 machines. Some means G6, G5 and Multiprise3000 models. I'm not sure about older generations, my vaguely recollection tells me NO. G6 machines are nn7, i.e. ZY7, X47 G5 machines are nn6, i.e. RA6, RC6, R36, R46 R45 is G4 machine. AFAIR it cannot run any z/OS as well as OS/390 2.10. -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland Richard Tsujimoto wrote: Thomas/Paolo, This is very strange. We've been told by IBM that inorder run anything higher than OS/390 2.10, we had to go to a z box. We're currently running OS/390 2.6 on a 9672 R83. Thomas Conley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU 02/07/2006 09:25 AM Please respond to IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU To IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU cc Subject Re: 9672 R45 with zOS 1.4 Sorry, I should have said you can't go higher than OS/390 V2R10 on a 9672-R45 (G4) box. Regards, Tom Conley - Original Message - From: Paolo Pirillo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 4:06 AM Subject: Re: 9672 R45 with zOS 1.4 Hello Dude, we are running a 9672-R46 in our DR Site. It's running fine with z/OS 1.4. But we have to think about a new box, becourse we want to migrate to z/OS 1.7 next year. Regards, Paolo Pirillo -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: 9672 R45 with zOS 1.4
In a message dated 2/7/2006 9:01:22 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This is very strange. We've been told by IBM that inorder run anything higher than OS/390 2.10, we had to go to a z box. We're currently running OS/390 2.6 on a 9672 R83. It's mostly semanticle. z/OS requires ALS-2 which is G5(9672-Rx6) or higher. IIRC z/OS thru 1.6 runs in 31 bit on G5's. When you go to z/OS you originally had 31/64bit choices or bimode migration aid(pay for). z/OS 1.7 requires z/Box and only runs in 64 bit. It's a very large jump from 2.6 to z/OS anything. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: 9672 R45 with zOS 1.4
Ed Finnell wrote: In a message dated 2/7/2006 9:01:22 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This is very strange. We've been told by IBM that inorder run anything higher than OS/390 2.10, we had to go to a z box. We're currently running OS/390 2.6 on a 9672 R83. It's mostly semanticle. z/OS requires ALS-2 which is G5(9672-Rx6) or higher. IIRC z/OS thru 1.6 runs in 31 bit on G5's. When you go to z/OS you originally had 31/64bit choices or bimode migration aid(pay for). z/OS 1.7 requires z/Box and only runs in 64 bit. It's a very large jump from 2.6 to z/OS anything. AFAIK z/OS (as well as OS/390) requires ALS-1, which is G5 or higher. ALS-2 is z/900 or higher. z/OS thru 1.5 runs in 31-bit on G5's. 1.6 requires 64-bit machine. Several persons just admitted they run z/OS on pre-G5 (pre-ALS1) machines. IBM claims z/OS requires ALS1. IMHO it is impossible several guys don't know their machine models. Where is the true ? *Official IBM* version is: z/OS 1.6 and next requires 64-bit machine - z/900, z/800, z/990, z/890, z9 (zMachine). z/OS 1.1 thru 1.5 can run on zMachine - obvious. z/OS 1.1 thru 1.5 can also run on 31-bit machines, *but* ALS-1 is required. ALS-1 means G5, G6 and MP3000. AFAIR OS/390 2.10 also needed ALS1. -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: 9672 R45 with zOS 1.4
In a message dated 2/7/2006 11:15:06 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: AFAIK z/OS (as well as OS/390) requires ALS-1, which is G5 or higher. ALS-2 is z/900 or higher. z/OS thru 1.5 runs in 31-bit on G5's. 1.6 requires 64-bit machine. Stand corrected. ALS-1 G5, ALS-2 z/Box Never recovered from the Rx1,Rx2 offset. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: 9672 R45 with zOS 1.4
This is very strange. We've been told by IBM that inorder run anything higher than OS/390 2.10, we had to go to a z box. We're currently running OS/390 2.6 on a 9672 R83. Context always matters. IBM does not sell/market anything older than a z/900. The microcode store is too small on an R83 to support the (even 31-bit) instructions required for z/OS. So, if you go through IBM, you have no choice but a z/BOX. Maybe, 3RD party can find you an upgrade to a G5, which will support z/OS in 31-bit. - -teD I’m an enthusiastic proselytiser of the universal panacea I believe in! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: 9672 R45 with zOS 1.4
R45 is G4 machine. AFAIR it cannot run any z/OS as well as OS/390 2.10 It can run 2.10, IIRC. But, it's been a long time since I saw one. But, you have to be on G5+ for z/OS. - -teD I’m an enthusiastic proselytiser of the universal panacea I believe in! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: 9672 R45 with zOS 1.4
*Official IBM* version is: z/OS 1.6 and next requires 64-bit machine - z/900, z/800, z/990, z/890, z9 (zMachine). z/OS 1.1 thru 1.5 can run on zMachine - obvious. z/OS 1.1 thru 1.5 can also run on 31-bit machines, *but* ALS-2 is required. ALS-2 means G5 (9672 Rx6), G6 (9672Rx7) and MP3000. OS/390 2.10 requires ALS-1 (G2 (9672 Rx2 and Rx3) G3 (9672 Rx4) G4 (9673 Rx5), and MP2003). Jim Mulder z/OS System Test IBM Corp. Poughkeepsie, NY -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: 9672 R45 with zOS 1.4
- Original Message - From: news.news [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 8:31 PM Subject: 9672 R45 with zOS 1.4 Any one run zOS1.4 with IBM 9672 R45 (especially in a DR enviroment). Dude, OS/390 V2R10 is as high as you can go on a 9672. Regards, Tom Conley -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
