Re: AS/400 FTP to z/OS

2010-02-22 Thread McKown, John
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Will allow the ftp to wrap the incoming record(s) into multiple records in the 
z/OS legacy dataset. Of course, you can't stitch them back together again, to 
determine the original records on the AS/400. Going into a UNIX file would 
preserve the original record structure. But processing it may be a bit 
difficult. Especially in something like COBOL.

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> George,
> 
> >I've got a vendor that is FTP'ing a file size of 96K and I 
> was wondering
> >if any of the listeners in this group know how to handle a 
> record size
> >that large? As always your help is appreciated...
> 
> The only think I can think of at the moment is to ftp it to a 
> hfs dataset. You could then chunk it up later to fit within 
> the lrecl limit.
> 
> Regards,
> John
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Re: AS/400 FTP to z/OS

2010-02-22 Thread Tony Harminc
On 22 February 2010 14:30, George Rodriguez
 wrote:
> I've got a vendor that is FTP'ing a file size of 96K and I was wondering
> if any of the listeners in this group know how to handle a record size
> that large? As always your help is appreciated...

All AS/400 files are "database files", and they have structure
(schema) information that goes with the raw data. An AS/400 FTP server
needs to be able to translate a database file to some streamable
format, and that's probably where you need to start, i.e. talk to your
AS/400 people about the data layout.

Well, there are also hfs-like ("IFS") files on the box, and
transferring the data their first may be another direction to look at.
Still, you need the structure information. There are AS/400 tools to
map such structure to C structs, and I'm sure also to COBOL and other
languages.

The good news perhaps is that the database files are in EBCDIC. (The
IFS stuff is in Unicode.)

Tony H.

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Re: AS/400 FTP to z/OS

2010-02-22 Thread John Kington
>Smart thinking, it didn't even dawn on me to use hfs. Is there a manual
>that I can read to learn how?

These are the type of datasets used by Unix System Services. You should be 
using these already in some fashion.

Zman is right in asking if the file is truely one long string of bytes 
(record). I would try to see what the file really looks like first. Since you 
say it is an invoice, I suspect there are multiple records (line breaks) in the 
file.

Regards,
John

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Re: AS/400 FTP to z/OS

2010-02-22 Thread George Rodriguez
It's my guess that it's an invoice and what we will need to do is break
it apart for each school and ship their piece to each school.

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On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 2:44 PM, John Kington
wrote:

> George,
>
> >I've got a vendor that is FTP'ing a file size of 96K and I was
wondering
> >if any of the listeners in this group know how to handle a record
size
> >that large? As always your help is appreciated...
>
> The only think I can think of at the moment is to ftp it to a hfs
dataset.
> You could then chunk it up later to fit within the lrecl limit.
>

Yeah, what's the real requirement? Do you really need a file with a 96K
record in it? What kind of data is it? How will it be processed on z/OS?

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Re: AS/400 FTP to z/OS

2010-02-22 Thread George Rodriguez
Smart thinking, it didn't even dawn on me to use hfs. Is there a manual
that I can read to learn how?

Thanks,
George Rodriguez
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George,

>I've got a vendor that is FTP'ing a file size of 96K and I was
wondering
>if any of the listeners in this group know how to handle a record size
>that large? As always your help is appreciated...

The only think I can think of at the moment is to ftp it to a hfs
dataset. You could then chunk it up later to fit within the lrecl limit.

Regards,
John

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Re: AS/400 FTP to z/OS

2010-02-22 Thread zMan
On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 2:44 PM, John Kington wrote:

> George,
>
> >I've got a vendor that is FTP'ing a file size of 96K and I was wondering
> >if any of the listeners in this group know how to handle a record size
> >that large? As always your help is appreciated...
>
> The only think I can think of at the moment is to ftp it to a hfs dataset.
> You could then chunk it up later to fit within the lrecl limit.
>

Yeah, what's the real requirement? Do you really need a file with a 96K
record in it? What kind of data is it? How will it be processed on z/OS?

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Re: AS/400 FTP to z/OS

2010-02-22 Thread John Kington
George,

>I've got a vendor that is FTP'ing a file size of 96K and I was wondering
>if any of the listeners in this group know how to handle a record size
>that large? As always your help is appreciated...

The only think I can think of at the moment is to ftp it to a hfs dataset. You 
could then chunk it up later to fit within the lrecl limit.

Regards,
John

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AS/400 FTP to z/OS

2010-02-22 Thread George Rodriguez
I've got a vendor that is FTP'ing a file size of 96K and I was wondering
if any of the listeners in this group know how to handle a record size
that large? As always your help is appreciated...

 

George Rodriguez

Specialist II - IT Solutions 

Application Support / Quality Assurance

PX - 47652

(561) 357-7652 (office)

(561) 707-3496 (mobile)

School District of Palm Beach County

3348 Forest Hill Blvd.

Room B-332

West Palm Beach, FL. 33406-5869

Florida's Only A-Rated Urban District For Five Consecutive Years

 



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