Re: Any Utilities to Archive Members of a PDS/PDSE - Load Libraries, Not Source
My firm (Software Engineering of America) offers a product called FMO (Fast Member Organizer) that will do this for you. Art Golden -Original Message- From: Mark Zelden [mailto:mark.zel...@zurichna.com] Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 11:32 AM Subject: Re: Any Utilities to Archive Members of a PDS/PDSE - Load Libraries, Not Source On Mon, 17 Aug 2009 10:23:38 -0500, Bruno Sugliani oldti...@wanadoo.fr wrote: On Mon, 17 Aug 2009 09:31:03 -0500, Mark Zelden mark.zel...@zurichna.com wrote: I haven't seen anyone mention CA-PDSMAN yet. Or doesn't that work with LMODs? (I haven't worked with this product since the early 90s.) I was wondering the same thing with SCLM Could that do what the OP wants ? it is includd and already paid for in ISPF I don't know anything about SCLM other than its main function. I wasn't even sure what exactly the OP wanted. By archive I thought they wanted something to get rid of inactive members, not keep multiple versions. There is also ChangeAction software. Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:mark.zel...@zurichna.com Office:847-605-6570 Cell:630-306-8166 z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Any Utilities to Archive Members of a PDS/PDSE - Load Libraries, Not Source
There have been quite a few helpful suggestions in response to the quest of a utility. I wish to suggest a simpler and cheaper method. Simply IEBCOPY the PDS or PDSE to a GDG dataset of nnn depth on a daily (or more often) basis. We've been doing this for years to protect a departmental based PDS. On rare occasions we've had to go back and retrieve a member. Hey, the price is right. P.S. Years ago I had PDSMAN and I miss it. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Golden, Art Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 11:23 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Any Utilities to Archive Members of a PDS/PDSE - Load Libraries, Not Source My firm (Software Engineering of America) offers a product called FMO (Fast Member Organizer) that will do this for you. Art Golden -Original Message- From: Mark Zelden [mailto:mark.zel...@zurichna.com] Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 11:32 AM Subject: Re: Any Utilities to Archive Members of a PDS/PDSE - Load Libraries, Not Source On Mon, 17 Aug 2009 10:23:38 -0500, Bruno Sugliani oldti...@wanadoo.fr wrote: On Mon, 17 Aug 2009 09:31:03 -0500, Mark Zelden mark.zel...@zurichna.com wrote: I haven't seen anyone mention CA-PDSMAN yet. Or doesn't that work with LMODs? (I haven't worked with this product since the early 90s.) I was wondering the same thing with SCLM Could that do what the OP wants ? it is includd and already paid for in ISPF I don't know anything about SCLM other than its main function. I wasn't even sure what exactly the OP wanted. By archive I thought they wanted something to get rid of inactive members, not keep multiple versions. There is also ChangeAction software. Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:mark.zel...@zurichna.com Office:847-605-6570 Cell:630-306-8166 z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.59/2310 - Release Date: 08/18/09 06:03:00 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Any Utilities to Archive Members of a PDS/PDSE - Load Libraries, Not Source
CA PDSMAN offers a wide range of archiving and recovery options for members in both PDS and PDSE libraries. This includes maintaining multiple versions of a member within a library, establishing a Journal (or shadow) library setup, or using a more conventional archiving system to sequential data sets. Jeffrey King CA PDSMAN Principle Software Engineer Columbus, Ohio USA tel: +1 614 785 2743 or x62743 jeffrey.k...@ca.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Mark Zelden Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 10:31 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Any Utilities to Archive Members of a PDS/PDSE - Load Libraries, Not Source I haven't seen anyone mention CA-PDSMAN yet. Or doesn't that work with LMODs? (I haven't worked with this product since the early 90s.) Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:mark.zel...@zurichna.com z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Any Utilities to Archive Members of a PDS/PDSE - Load Libraries, Not Source
I once heard about a product called SYSChange from Pristine Software. http://www.pristineusa.com/index.html However, I never tried it. Denis. -Original Message- From: King, Jeffrey E jeffrey.k...@ca.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Tue, Aug 18, 2009 7:13 pm Subject: Re: Any Utilities to Archive Members of a PDS/PDSE - Load Libraries, Not Source CA PDSMAN offers a wide range of archiving and recovery options for members in both PDS and PDSE libraries. This includes maintaining multiple versions of a member within a library, establishing a Journal (or shadow) library setup, or using a more conventional archiving system to sequential data sets. Jeffrey King CA PDSMAN Principle Software Engineer Columbus, Ohio USA tel: +1 614 785 2743 or x62743 jeffrey.k...@ca.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Mark Zelden Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 10:31 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Any Utilities to Archive Members of a PDS/PDSE - Load Libraries, Not Source I haven't seen anyone mention CA-PDSMAN yet. Or doesn't that work with LMODs? (I haven't worked with this product since the early 90s.) Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:mark.zel...@zurichna.com z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Any Utilities to Archive Members of a PDS/PDSE - Load Libraries, Not Source
On Fri, 14 Aug 2009 13:57:26 -0400, Stocker, Herman herman.stoc...@avisbudget.com wrote: G'day, I have been tasked with finding a utility that can archive members of a PDS/PDSE data set, Not the entire data set but individual members. The utility should be able to keep a number of copies or generations of the load modules. Don't most change management products do this? I know Endevor (to a limited extent) and ISPW can. I seem to remember Changeman does it as well. Cheers, Jantje. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Any Utilities to Archive Members of a PDS/PDSE - Load Libraries, Not Source
I haven't seen anyone mention CA-PDSMAN yet. Or doesn't that work with LMODs? (I haven't worked with this product since the early 90s.) Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:mark.zel...@zurichna.com z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Any Utilities to Archive Members of a PDS/PDSE - Load Libraries, Not Source
On Mon, 17 Aug 2009 09:31:03 -0500, Mark Zelden mark.zel...@zurichna.com wrote: I haven't seen anyone mention CA-PDSMAN yet. Or doesn't that work with LMODs? (I haven't worked with this product since the early 90s.) I was wondering the same thing with SCLM Could that do what the OP wants ? it is includd and already paid for in ISPF Bruno Sugliani zxnetconsult(at)free(dot)fr -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Any Utilities to Archive Members of a PDS/PDSE - Load Libraries, Not Source
On Mon, 17 Aug 2009 10:23:38 -0500, Bruno Sugliani oldti...@wanadoo.fr wrote: On Mon, 17 Aug 2009 09:31:03 -0500, Mark Zelden mark.zel...@zurichna.com wrote: I haven't seen anyone mention CA-PDSMAN yet. Or doesn't that work with LMODs? (I haven't worked with this product since the early 90s.) I was wondering the same thing with SCLM Could that do what the OP wants ? it is includd and already paid for in ISPF I don't know anything about SCLM other than its main function. I wasn't even sure what exactly the OP wanted. By archive I thought they wanted something to get rid of inactive members, not keep multiple versions. There is also ChangeAction software. Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:mark.zel...@zurichna.com Office:847-605-6570 Cell:630-306-8166 z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Any Utilities to Archive Members of a PDS/PDSE - Load Libraries, Not Source
G'day, I have been tasked with finding a utility that can archive members of a PDS/PDSE data set, Not the entire data set but individual members. The utility should be able to keep a number of copies or generations of the load modules. I thought I had heard of a product once a long time ago however, have lost all reference to the product and vendor. Thank you for your assistance. Regards, Herman Stocker The sender believes that this E-mail and any attachments were free of any virus, worm, Trojan horse, and/or malicious code when sent. This message and its attachments could have been infected during transmission. By reading the message and opening any attachments, the recipient accepts full responsibility for taking protective and remedial action about viruses and other defects. The sender's employer is not liable for any loss or damage arising in any way from this message or its attachments. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Any Utilities to Archive Members of a PDS/PDSE - Load Libraries, Not Source
CA-Panexec is one Terry Traylor charlesSCHWAB TIS Mainframe Storage Management Remedy Queue: tis-hs-mstg (602) 977-5154 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Stocker, Herman Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 10:57 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Any Utilities to Archive Members of a PDS/PDSE - Load Libraries, Not Source G'day, I have been tasked with finding a utility that can archive members of a PDS/PDSE data set, Not the entire data set but individual members. The utility should be able to keep a number of copies or generations of the load modules. I thought I had heard of a product once a long time ago however, have lost all reference to the product and vendor. Thank you for your assistance. Regards, Herman Stocker The sender believes that this E-mail and any attachments were free of any virus, worm, Trojan horse, and/or malicious code when sent. This message and its attachments could have been infected during transmission. By reading the message and opening any attachments, the recipient accepts full responsibility for taking protective and remedial action about viruses and other defects. The sender's employer is not liable for any loss or damage arising in any way from this message or its attachments. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Any Utilities to Archive Members of a PDS/PDSE - Load Libraries, Not Source
Archiver on the CBT Tape WWW.CBTTAPE.ORG FILE 147 SNIP I have been tasked with finding a utility that can archive members of a PDS/PDSE data set, Not the entire data set but individual members. The utility should be able to keep a number of copies or generations of the load modules. /snip -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Any Utilities to Archive Members of a PDS/PDSE - Load Libraries, Not Source
-snip G'day, I have been tasked with finding a utility that can archive members of a PDS/PDSE data set, Not the entire data set but individual members. The utility should be able to keep a number of copies or generations of the load modules. I thought I had heard of a product once a long time ago however, have lost all reference to the product and vendor. Thank you for your assistance. Regards, Herman Stocker unsnip- Shameless plug here: go look at the ARCHIVER, in file 147 of the CBTTAPE. As long as the module isn't scatter-loadable, ARCHIVER will handle load modules, including overlays (if anyone still uses them) just fine. (I sweat blood getting the overlay handling right; the note list threw me for quite a loop until i understood how it worked.) LMOD blocks close to the 32,760 limit will cause a problem; the compaction routine sometimes makes a block larger than the input block, overflowing the Archive buffer. Rick -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
