Re: DELETE of DATA & INDEX entries of a KSDS in a CATALOG ...

[Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)]

In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 08/10/2005
   at 11:39 AM, "Moussadak, Mustafa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:

>DEL VVR doesn't work (RC 08)!

>How to force de deletion of theses entries in catalog ?

You use DELETE VVR to remove the component from the VTOC, not from the
BCS. Use DELETE NOSCRATCH to remove the component from the BCS. For
both you need authorization.
 
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Re: DELETE of DATA & INDEX entries of a KSDS in a CATALOG ...

[Ed Finnell]

 
In a message dated 8/10/2005 6:38:49 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
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DEL VVR  doesn't work (RC 08)!




//FILE1 DD UNIT=3390,VOL=SER=badvol,DISP=SHR
//SYSIN  DD *
 del bad_name NVR FILE(FILE1)  CAT('MCAT_Name')

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Re: DELETE of DATA & INDEX entries of a KSDS in a CATALOG ...

[Bruce Black]

I have a DATA & INDEX entries of one KSDS in a catalog without a entrie of a
CLUSTER. There's no relevant info in the VVDS.

Sorry, I misread your message. I thought the entries were in the VTOC 
but not in the catalog. 

The command to delete hanging component names from the catalog when the 
cluster is gone is

   DELETE  compname   TRUENAME

Make very sure that what you say is true.   do a LISTCAT on the 
component names to be sure they are not associated with another cluster 
name.


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Re: DELETE of DATA & INDEX entries of a KSDS in a CATALOG ...

[ibm-main]

Did you check the manual(s)  ???.
IIRC there are RACF profile requirements - most likely
FACILITY/STGADMIN.summit-or-other.

Shane ...

- Original Message - 
From: "Moussadak, Mustafa"
> ...
> DEL VVR doesn't work (RC 08)!
>
> How to force de deletion of theses entries in catalog ?

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Re: DELETE of DATA & INDEX entries of a KSDS in a CATALOG ...

[Moussadak, Mustafa]

Hi Bruce,

DEL VVR doesn't work (RC 08)!

How to force de deletion of theses entries in catalog ?


Regards/Cordialement.
M. Mustafa

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Objet : Re: DELETE of DATA & INDEX entries of a KSDS in a CATALOG ...

RECATALOG won't work because, as he said, there is no VVR for these 
components.

Zapping the VTOC is NEVER a good idea.

But the IDCAMS "DELETE componentname VVR" commandwill work.  It was 
enhanced many years ago to delete DSCBs even if there is not matching VVR

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Re: DELETE of DATA & INDEX entries of a KSDS in a CATALOG ...

[Bruce Black]

You can choose between two choices:

* RECATALG and then normal delete

* Zap to VTOC converting DATA and INDEX into SEQ files and then
DELETE ENTRIES.
  CCHHRR ??
VER53  08
REP53  00
VER5D  12
REP5D  80


No to both.

RECATALOG won't work because, as he said, there is no VVR for these 
components.


Zapping the VTOC is NEVER a good idea.

But the IDCAMS "DELETE componentname VVR" commandwill work.  It was 
enhanced many years ago to delete DSCBs even if there is not matching VVR


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Re: DELETE of DATA & INDEX entries of a KSDS in a CATALOG ...

[Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)]

In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 08/02/2005
   at 09:48 AM, "Moussadak, Mustafa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:

>How can I go to this goal ?

DELETE VVR.
 
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Re: DELETE of DATA & INDEX entries of a KSDS in a CATALOG ...

[Rob Scott]

I would advise that you try "DELETE VVR" before zapping the VTOC.


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Subject: Re: DELETE of DATA & INDEX entries of a KSDS in a CATALOG ...

 
You can choose between two choices:

* RECATALG and then normal delete

* Zap to VTOC converting DATA and INDEX into SEQ files and then
DELETE ENTRIES.
  CCHHRR ??
VER53  08
REP53  00
VER5D  12
REP5D  80


angel luis dominguez
bbva - spain 

-Mensaje original-
De: Moussadak, Mustafa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

I have a DATA & INDEX entries of one KSDS in a catalog without a entrie
of a
CLUSTER. There's no relevant info in the VVDS.
I would like to Delete theses entries but I can't (IDCAMS DEL NSCR
Return
08).


 
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Re: DELETE of DATA & INDEX entries of a KSDS in a CATALOG ...

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DOMINGUEZ MARTIN, ANGEL LUIS wrote:

 
	You can choose between two choices:


* RECATALG and then normal delete

* Zap to VTOC converting DATA and INDEX into SEQ files and then
DELETE ENTRIES.
  CCHHRR ??
VER53  08
REP53  00
VER5D  12
REP5D  80


...and then have problems with BCS entries and VVDS.

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Re: DELETE of DATA & INDEX entries of a KSDS in a CATALOG ...

[DOMINGUEZ MARTIN, ANGEL LUIS]

 
You can choose between two choices:

* RECATALG and then normal delete

* Zap to VTOC converting DATA and INDEX into SEQ files and then
DELETE ENTRIES.
  CCHHRR ??
VER53  08
REP53  00
VER5D  12
REP5D  80


angel luis dominguez
bbva - spain 

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De: Moussadak, Mustafa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

I have a DATA & INDEX entries of one KSDS in a catalog without a entrie of a
CLUSTER. There's no relevant info in the VVDS.
I would like to Delete theses entries but I can't (IDCAMS DEL NSCR Return
08).


 
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DELETE of DATA & INDEX entries of a KSDS in a CATALOG ...

[Moussadak, Mustafa]

Hi,

 

I have a DATA & INDEX entries of one KSDS in a catalog without a entrie of a
CLUSTER. There's no relevant info in the VVDS.

 

I would like to Delete theses entries but I can't (IDCAMS DEL NSCR Return
08).

 

How can I go to this goal ?

 

Any help will be appreciated.

 

Thanks.

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