DFSMS/DASD: Control SG occupancy

2010-12-15 Thread af dc
Hello,
can anyone give me an hint about how to control SG occupancy, like, hourly
have a msg to syslog with a list of selected SGs with 75% of occupancy. I
have a request to monitor a  SG where after getting 70% of occupancy an
alert must be issued to us (storage administrators). Can this be done ??

Any hint, sugestion is welcome.
Many thx, Antonio Cecilio.

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Re: DFSMS/DASD: Control SG occupancy

2010-12-15 Thread Lizette Koehler
> can anyone give me an hint about how to control SG occupancy, like,
> hourly
> have a msg to syslog with a list of selected SGs with 75% of occupancy.
> I
> have a request to monitor a  SG where after getting 70% of occupancy an
> alert must be issued to us (storage administrators). Can this be
> done ??

>From straight ISMF or DFSMS probably not because I think you will need
something that creates the alert and send it to you.

However with tools like Tivoli Omegamon, CA-SYSVIEW, CA-Vantage, CA-GMI, IBM
RMF, or other like tools, probably.

Or if you have CA-PDSMAN, VTOC Tool from CBT TAPE, you could have jobs that
run hourly that you program your process to do the alerting.

We have hi and lo water marks set in certain pools in DFSMS and then use
OPS/MVS to capture any IGD17380I message to send our storage group an alert.



Lizette
 

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Re: DFSMS/DASD: Control SG occupancy

2010-12-15 Thread Staller, Allan
Use DFSHM interval migration to maintain the SG at the appropriate
occupancy levels.  
Migration will wake up every X minutes (hours?) and migrate data until
the appropriate thresholds are reached.

I haven't had the need to do this myself, so you will need check the
fine manuals for details.


HTH,


can anyone give me an hint about how to control SG occupancy, like,
hourly
have a msg to syslog with a list of selected SGs with 75% of occupancy.
I
have a request to monitor a  SG where after getting 70% of occupancy an
alert must be issued to us (storage administrators). Can this be done ??


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Re: DFSMS/DASD: Control SG occupancy

2010-12-15 Thread Michael Saraco
Do not forget that most scheduler's have a way to trigger jobs by 
messages. You could have your scheduler trigger a email job if you have 
email or at least send a message to the console saying to call one of the 
storage group folks.







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> can anyone give me an hint about how to control SG occupancy, like,
> hourly
> have a msg to syslog with a list of selected SGs with 75% of occupancy.
> I
> have a request to monitor a  SG where after getting 70% of occupancy an
> alert must be issued to us (storage administrators). Can this be
> done ??

>From straight ISMF or DFSMS probably not because I think you will need
something that creates the alert and send it to you.

However with tools like Tivoli Omegamon, CA-SYSVIEW, CA-Vantage, CA-GMI, 
IBM
RMF, or other like tools, probably.

Or if you have CA-PDSMAN, VTOC Tool from CBT TAPE, you could have jobs 
that
run hourly that you program your process to do the alerting.

We have hi and lo water marks set in certain pools in DFSMS and then use
OPS/MVS to capture any IGD17380I message to send our storage group an 
alert.



Lizette
 

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Re: DFSMS/DASD: Control SG occupancy

2010-12-15 Thread Joel C. Ewing
But note that interval migration will only migrate data that is eligible 
for migration (by management class and last referenced date), so there 
is no guarantee that it can maintain the requested usage levels, 
especially in a shop with wide variation in workload or with long-term 
growth.  There is still a need to monitor by other means.

  JC Ewing

On 12/15/2010 07:28 AM, Staller, Allan wrote:

Use DFSHM interval migration to maintain the SG at the appropriate
occupancy levels.
Migration will wake up every X minutes (hours?) and migrate data until
the appropriate thresholds are reached.

I haven't had the need to do this myself, so you will need check the
fine manuals for details.


HTH,


can anyone give me an hint about how to control SG occupancy, like,
hourly
have a msg to syslog with a list of selected SGs with 75% of occupancy.
I
have a request to monitor a  SG where after getting 70% of occupancy an
alert must be issued to us (storage administrators). Can this be done ??


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Re: DFSMS/DASD: Control SG occupancy

2010-12-15 Thread af dc
Thx to all your replies.
The issue here is not about the automation, is how to create the msg to
syslog. I was thinking of something like (rexx, report, tool, etc) where I
could get ISMF/SG %FREE SPACE or MXI SGRP %use values (these are examples).

It's seems that it's not straight forward.
A.Cecilio


On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 12:34 PM, Lizette Koehler
wrote:

> > can anyone give me an hint about how to control SG occupancy, like,
> > hourly
> > have a msg to syslog with a list of selected SGs with 75% of occupancy.
> > I
> > have a request to monitor a  SG where after getting 70% of occupancy an
> > alert must be issued to us (storage administrators). Can this be
> > done ??
>
> From straight ISMF or DFSMS probably not because I think you will need
> something that creates the alert and send it to you.
>
> However with tools like Tivoli Omegamon, CA-SYSVIEW, CA-Vantage, CA-GMI,
> IBM
> RMF, or other like tools, probably.
>
> Or if you have CA-PDSMAN, VTOC Tool from CBT TAPE, you could have jobs that
> run hourly that you program your process to do the alerting.
>
> We have hi and lo water marks set in certain pools in DFSMS and then use
> OPS/MVS to capture any IGD17380I message to send our storage group an
> alert.
>
>
>
> Lizette
>
>
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Re: DFSMS/DASD: Control SG occupancy

2010-12-15 Thread Staller, Allan
If the pool is maintained continuously at/near the required level, why
is it necessary to generate a message at all?


The issue here is not about the automation, is how to create the msg to
syslog. I was thinking of something like (rexx, report, tool, etc) where
I
could get ISMF/SG %FREE SPACE or MXI SGRP %use values (these are
examples).


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Re: DFSMS/DASD: Control SG occupancy

2010-12-15 Thread af dc
Hi Allan,
msg generation it's a hint, I was thinking of some tool to send a msg on
syslog and automation picks it and do whatever we wanted, But if there's a
way to do it all, great..

I'm not at ease with NAVIQUEST, do you know if it can do it??
A.CEcilio.


On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 2:48 PM, Staller, Allan wrote:

> If the pool is maintained continuously at/near the required level, why
> is it necessary to generate a message at all?
>
> 
> The issue here is not about the automation, is how to create the msg to
> syslog. I was thinking of something like (rexx, report, tool, etc) where
> I
> could get ISMF/SG %FREE SPACE or MXI SGRP %use values (these are
> examples).
> 
>
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Re: DFSMS/DASD: Control SG occupancy

2010-12-15 Thread Scott Rowe
SMS will issue message IGD17380I when the high allocation threshold is
exceeded - does this not meet your needs?

On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 10:20 AM, af dc  wrote:

> Hi Allan,
> msg generation it's a hint, I was thinking of some tool to send a msg on
> syslog and automation picks it and do whatever we wanted, But if there's a
> way to do it all, great..
>
> I'm not at ease with NAVIQUEST, do you know if it can do it??
> A.CEcilio.
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 2:48 PM, Staller, Allan  >wrote:
>
> > If the pool is maintained continuously at/near the required level, why
> > is it necessary to generate a message at all?
> >
> > 
> > The issue here is not about the automation, is how to create the msg to
> > syslog. I was thinking of something like (rexx, report, tool, etc) where
> > I
> > could get ISMF/SG %FREE SPACE or MXI SGRP %use values (these are
> > examples).
> > 
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Re: DFSMS/DASD: Control SG occupancy

2010-12-15 Thread Staller, Allan
This is a built-in function of DFHSM. NAVIQUEST is not even needed.
Disclaimer: I have almost zero exposure to NAVIQUEST.

Check the parameter SETSYS INTERVALMIGRATION in the DFHSM Reference or
the topic INTERVAL MIGRATION in the DFHSM Guide.

HTH,


msg generation it's a hint, I was thinking of some tool to send a msg on
syslog and automation picks it and do whatever we wanted, But if there's
a
way to do it all, great..


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Re: DFSMS/DASD: Control SG occupancy

2010-12-15 Thread C. Ardillo
I'm just an application programmer but from my tool set I'd run an 
idcams dcollect job against the storage groups in question then use 
something like easytrieve to compute my thresholds and send an email if 
needed from same job.


On 12/15/2010 7:04 AM, af dc wrote:

Hello,
can anyone give me an hint about how to control SG occupancy, like, hourly
have a msg to syslog with a list of selected SGs with 75% of occupancy. I
have a request to monitor a  SG where after getting 70% of occupancy an
alert must be issued to us (storage administrators). Can this be done ??

Any hint, sugestion is welcome.
Many thx, Antonio Cecilio.

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Re: DFSMS/DASD: Control SG occupancy

2010-12-15 Thread Patrick Lyon
On Wed, 15 Dec 2010 13:45:10 -0500, C. Ardillo  
wrote:

>I'm just an application programmer but from my tool set I'd run an
>idcams dcollect job against the storage groups in question then use
>something like easytrieve to compute my thresholds and send an email if
>needed from same job.
>
>On 12/15/2010 7:04 AM, af dc wrote:
>> Hello,
>> can anyone give me an hint about how to control SG occupancy, like, 
hourly
>> have a msg to syslog with a list of selected SGs with 75% of occupancy. I
>> have a request to monitor a  SG where after getting 70% of occupancy an
>> alert must be issued to us (storage administrators). Can this be done ??
>>
>> Any hint, sugestion is welcome.
>> Many thx, Antonio Cecilio.
>>

Antonio - if you have the Quickref product, you can (or I can supply) a REXX 
exec that checks the percentages of a storage group from a batch job that 
runs periodically, and you can use SMTP to email you an alert (if you have 
SMTP set up).  You would have to have a scheduling package to run the job 
whenever you would like as well.

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Re: DFSMS/DASD: Control SG occupancy

2010-12-15 Thread gsg
Patrick,

If you don't mind, I would be interested in the REXX code.  Can you post it or 
email it to me directly?  I'd really appreciate it.

Thanks

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Re: DFSMS/DASD: Control SG occupancy

2010-12-15 Thread Kenneth J. Kripke
Another method will require some parsing of an IDCAMS DCOLLECT report output, 
but, you can gather
data by Storage Group using it and tabulate utilization figures.  You would 
probably have to schedule a batch job via your job scheduler for some interval 
value or whatever.  

kkri...@mindspring.com 

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Re: DFSMS/DASD: Control SG occupancy

2010-12-16 Thread Gonzalo Cengotita
Hello,

You can find an example of using ISMF in batch here:

http://www.servframe.com/jcl-samples/

There is an example called "Generate an ISMF storage group list in batch"

This list have a field with the "% free" value that you can read with a REXX
and compare with the values you consider appropiate and send a message,
email, (or whatever you want).



Regards,
Gonzalo Cengotita





On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 1:04 PM, af dc  wrote:

> Hello,
> can anyone give me an hint about how to control SG occupancy, like, hourly
> have a msg to syslog with a list of selected SGs with 75% of occupancy. I
> have a request to monitor a  SG where after getting 70% of occupancy an
> alert must be issued to us (storage administrators). Can this be done ??
>
> Any hint, sugestion is welcome.
> Many thx, Antonio Cecilio.
>
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