Re: DFSORT 1.4-1.5 EQUALS=VBLKSET default

2007-03-16 Thread Frank Yaeger
Greg Saccomanno wrote on 03/15/2007 06:42:22 PM:
 Would DFSORT at release 1.4 (z/OS 1.4 and I think OS/390 2.10) using
 EQUALS=VBLKSET produce the same results run after run if the input data
 were the same but produce different results when run under DFSORT 1.5
(All
 jobs ran with EQUALS=N)?  I know what EQUALS= does, it's just that the
 results between two parallel runs always matched even back to os/390 2.10

 and now they do not and the difference is in the sequence of duplicate
 records.

 If the answer to the above is YES, is there some way to get 1.5 to
produce
 the same results as I used to get under 1.4 (I don't know if the
duplicate
 records were in input order or not under 1.4 so I don't know that
 EQUALS=YES would get me what I want, just that the two executions would
 always match before)?

The shipped default is EQUALS=VLBLKSET for both DFSORT 1.4 and 1.5.  This
only guarantees that the first duplicate will be kept for VLR Blockset
applications.  For all other applications, the default is EQUALS=NO which
means that any record from a set of duplicates can be selected.  Which
record is selected with EQUALS=NO depends on different factors like the
technique selected, how storage is laid out, etc.  So with EQUALS=NO, you
might get the same duplicates run after run or you might not, even for the
same release.  The only way to ensure that you always get the same
duplicates for every run and every release is to use EQUALS=YES. There's no
way to guarantee that you'll get the same results with 1.5 that you got
with 1.4 without having used EQUALS=YES for both.

Frank Yaeger - DFSORT Team (IBM) - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Specialties: PARSE, JFY, SQZ, ICETOOL, IFTHEN, OVERLAY, Symbols, Migration

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DFSORT 1.4-1.5 EQUALS=VBLKSET default

2007-03-15 Thread Greg Saccomanno
Would DFSORT at release 1.4 (z/OS 1.4 and I think OS/390 2.10) using 
EQUALS=VBLKSET produce the same results run after run if the input data 
were the same but produce different results when run under DFSORT 1.5 (All 
jobs ran with EQUALS=N)?  I know what EQUALS= does, it's just that the 
results between two parallel runs always matched even back to os/390 2.10 
and now they do not and the difference is in the sequence of duplicate 
records.

If the answer to the above is YES, is there some way to get 1.5 to produce 
the same results as I used to get under 1.4 (I don't know if the duplicate 
records were in input order or not under 1.4 so I don't know that 
EQUALS=YES would get me what I want, just that the two executions would 
always match before)? 

Thank you for your time and assistance,
Greg

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