Re: Display IEAOPT
Some OPT settings are available in Omegamon/MVS, but the product that would have detected the *change* to the OPT member was Deltamon. Does that product still exist, albeit under a different name? db -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joseph H Winterton Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 10:55 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Display IEAOPT The IBM Solution is OMEGAMON. :-) Joe Winterton IBM Manager OMEGAMON - R&D Phone 914-766-1822 T/L 826-1822 cellphone - 914-954-0483 - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lizette Koehler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 07/02/2008 10:52 AM Please respond to IBM Mainframe Discussion List To IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU cc Subject Re: Display IEAOPT That seems a bit short sighted of IBM. Okay, I have TMON MVS. I will see if it can provide the information. Otherwise, I will see if I can do a control block hunt for the IEAOPT information. Lizette > >>Does anyone know of a way to display IEAOPTxx so I can see if my >>changes to the parameters occurred? > >Unfortunately, unless you have a monitor like OMEGAMON, the answer is NO. > > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Display IEAOPT
Sounds like a good requirement for Share, Don. You should have access to open it. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Display IEAOPT
Hi Elardus, SMF Type 90 (Subtype 11) simply gives the OPT names: SMF90OPO = old OPT parmlib member name, SMF90OPN = new OPT parmlib member name. These names don't tell you much about the values actually specified in the old and new OPT members. :-( The lack of OPT information in SMF is indeed unfortunate. As Martin Packer implied, automated performance analysis tools cannot easily check for common OPT problems if the data is not easily available! In a legacy version of CPExpert, the "SRM Component" checked IPS/ICS/OPT/TSOKEY parameters by reading the relevant members in sys1.parmlib. This approach was prone to user error, since the actual sys1.parmlib members had to be available to the system on which CPExpert was running, but the system being evaluated was not necessarily the system on which CPExpert ran! Even then, operator changes to OPT specifications would not always be reflected in sys1.parmlib members. With modern z/OS environments, most of IBM subsystems are "self-documenting" so automated performance analysis tools can easily build a "model" of the environment being analyzed. With WLM, most of the relevant information is available in TYPE 72, and SMF is "self documenting" with regard to service class period information, resource group information, etc. There still is the missing workload classification information, but most information necessary for analyzing WLM performance problems is available in SMF. Specifications related to PR/SM, IRD, Blocked Workload, HiperDispatch Management Mode, and other system parameter specifications are available in SMF. As a result, automated performance analysis products can happily read SMF data and have an understanding of detailed performance issues in these z/OS performance areas. Similarly, a legacy version of the CPExpert CICS Component had to read the System Initialization Table (SIT) parameters directly from the SIT (and any operator overrides had to be explicitly provided). This was annoying to users, particularly for those users with a large number of unique (not cloned) CICS regions. Since CICS MVS/ESA Release 4.1, most (and all important) SIT parameters are provided in SMF Type 110 records, and the CICS Development Team continues to add SIT values to the Type 110 records as new features are added to CICS. Automated performance analysis products can happily read SMF Type 110 data and have an understanding of detailed performance issues in CICS performance areas. All important DB2 parameters and specifications are available in SMF (particularly if Trace Type 106 is available). A complete model of the DASD I/O environment now can be constructed entirely from SMF data. WebSphere MQ parameter specifications are available in SMF (and detailed queue information is available if SMF Type 116 is available). The bottom line of this is that IBM has been moving extensively toward providing "self documenting" data in SMF. The glaring lack of complete performance-related OPT information is the one major area in which "self documenting" specifications have not been made available in SMF. It almost seems to be a hit-or-miss situation as to whether OPT specifications are available in SMF!. As examples, there is complete information in SMF Type 70 records about OPT specifications for some new features (such as OPT specifications controlling Blocked Workload or HiperDispatch Management Mode), but there is no OPT information in SMF about other new features (such as ZAAPAWMT or ZIIPAWMT). It is disheartening to know that performance problems could easily be identified and solutions recommended automatically, if only the required OPT information were available in SMF! Placing the remaining performance-related OPT information in the SMF Type 70 records would significantly improve automated performance analysis and would have almost zero effect on SMF file size. Regards, Don ** Don Deese, Computer Management Sciences, Inc. Voice: (703) 922-7027 Fax: (703) 922-7305 http://www.cpexpert.com ** "Elardus Engelbrecht" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... [ This is a resend atttempt, apparently my first post never went to IBM-MAIN ] Martin Packer wrote: >All the OPT parms and WLM policy details and any dynamic overrides of those ought to be in an SMF record. "Self documenting" would be a GOOD thing. Indeed. Look for SMF type 90, subtype 11. Look for SMF90TID. Groete / Greetings Elardus Engelbrecht -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Display IEAOPT
>>All the OPT parms and WLM policy details and any dynamic overrides of those
>>ought to be in an SMF record. "Self documenting" would be a GOOD
thing.
>Unfortunately, they aren't.
I saw Elardas' response after I sent this.
The last time I looked at the doc, this wasn't possible.
Since I don't have access to the SMF documentation at the moment, I can't
verify.
So, I may be wrong (again!).
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Re: Display IEAOPT
>All the OPT parms and WLM policy details and any dynamic overrides of those >ought to be in an SMF record. "Self documenting" would be a GOOD thing. Unfortunately, they aren't. - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Display IEAOPT
Just thinking of creating something that could be access from the console easily by operations or me. I am just dreaming in different directions right now. I like to see what I can do that will be easy to support. Convience, reliabilty and maintanabilty. I am one of the few here at my shop that can code REXX. And I am the only one that codes Assembler. So I just need to find a way to display it that others can support later. The SMF answer is not really that great because you have to offload the SMF and format the data. With REXX you can just go get it and SAY it. Since we have MXG it would not be that big of a deal. But still will take more time to do than just a simple MVS Commnad or REXX command. The WLMQUE tool on the IBM website works well. However, I was not able to use it under z/OS V1.7. So I am probably missing some data sets. Under z/OS V1.9 it works. However, I really had hoped for an MVS console command. That way if the change causes harm, I can have it documented in SYSLOG when and where I changed the IEAOPTxx along with the values from the IEAOPTxx without having to run jobs, or create a homegrown console command program. Many new tools to play with and so little time. Lizette > >Hi Lizette, > >How will system Rexx help you in this case? Just curious. > >Lindy > >. . . > >I guess I can use this as an excuse to use SYSTEM REXX and see if I can make >something work. > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Display IEAOPT
Hi Lizette, How will system Rexx help you in this case? Just curious. Lindy -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler Sent: 2. heinäkuuta 2008 18:41 To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Display IEAOPT . . . I guess I can use this as an excuse to use SYSTEM REXX and see if I can make something work. . . . -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Display IEAOPT
On Wed, 2 Jul 2008 11:41:08 -0400, Lizette Koehler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Yes I did find that. It showed the before and after picture. > >Since IEAOPT00 has been around a long time, I was certain by now IBM would have supplied an Operator command for it. I do not see Omegamon as a good response. Not every shop has an Omegamon or Tmon, etc. > >I guess I can use this as an excuse to use SYSTEM REXX and see if I can make something work. > Not with just REXX. No use of the STORAGE() function allowed in SYSREXX. Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Display IEAOPT
[ This is a resend atttempt, apparently my first post never went to IBM-MAIN ] Martin Packer wrote: >All the OPT parms and WLM policy details and any dynamic overrides of those ought to be in an SMF record. "Self documenting" would be a GOOD thing. Indeed. Look for SMF type 90, subtype 11. Look for SMF90TID. Groete / Greetings Elardus Engelbrecht -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Display IEAOPT
IMHO - and y'all know I DON'T work for Development... :-) All the OPT parms and WLM policy details and any dynamic overrides of those ought to be in an SMF record. "Self documenting" would be a GOOD thing. Martin Martin Packer Performance Consultant IBM United Kingdom Ltd +44-20-8832-5167 +44-7802-245-584 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unless stated otherwise above: IBM United Kingdom Limited - Registered in England and Wales with number 741598. Registered office: PO Box 41, North Harbour, Portsmouth, Hampshire PO6 3AU -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Display IEAOPT
Yes I did find that. It showed the before and after picture. Since IEAOPT00 has been around a long time, I was certain by now IBM would have supplied an Operator command for it. I do not see Omegamon as a good response. Not every shop has an Omegamon or Tmon, etc. I guess I can use this as an excuse to use SYSTEM REXX and see if I can make something work. Thanks Don for the Rexx. I will be using that as my base. If I get something put together I will share. I will be going to z/OS V1.9 on all LPARS later in Jul/Aug. After that I have some play time scheduled. ;-) Lizette > >It can be seen in TMONMVS via option 1.5. > >Don Imbriale > > >I have been looking through the manauls and it does not seem to be >there. > >Does anyone know of a way to display IEAOPTxx so I can see if my changes >to the parameters occurred? > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Display IEAOPT
It can be seen in TMONMVS via option 1.5. Don Imbriale -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 10:42 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Display IEAOPT I have been looking through the manauls and it does not seem to be there. Does anyone know of a way to display IEAOPTxx so I can see if my changes to the parameters occurred? *** Bear Stearns is not responsible for any recommendation, solicitation, offer or agreement or any information about any transaction, customer account or account activity contained in this communication. *** -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Display IEAOPT
Here's some REXX code I put together to display CPENABLE. It can be
modified/enhanced to display other 'stuff'.
/* rexx */
/*
Display CPENABLE values;
CVT points to RMCT which points to ICT;
ICCTPILO is at offset 6 for length of 2 in ICT
ICCTPIHI is at offset 8 for length of 2 in ICT
*/
cvt = storage(10,4)
rmct = storage(d2x(c2d(cvt)+604),4)
ict = storage(d2x(c2d(rmct)+8),4)
icctpilo = storage(d2x(c2d(ict)+6),2)
icctpihi = storage(d2x(c2d(ict)+8),2)
say "CPENABLE=("c2d(icctpilo)","c2d(icctpihi)")"
Don Imbriale
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Subject: Display IEAOPT
I have been looking through the manauls and it does not seem to be
there.
Does anyone know of a way to display IEAOPTxx so I can see if my changes
to the parameters occurred?
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Re: Display IEAOPT
On Wed, 2 Jul 2008 10:41:46 -0400, Lizette Koehler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I have been looking through the manauls and it does not seem to be there. > >Does anyone know of a way to display IEAOPTxx so I can see if my changes to the parameters occurred? > http://www-03.ibm.com/servers/eserver/zseries/zos/wlm/tools/wlmque.html Although it says "WLMQUE" it includes "WLMOPT". Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Display IEAOPT
You might try this freebie from IBM: http://www-03.ibm.com/servers/eserver/zseries/zos/wlm/tools/wlmque.html -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 9:52 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Display IEAOPT That seems a bit short sighted of IBM. Okay, I have TMON MVS. I will see if it can provide the information. Otherwise, I will see if I can do a control block hunt for the IEAOPT information. Lizette > >>Does anyone know of a way to display IEAOPTxx so I can see if my changes to the parameters occurred? > >Unfortunately, unless you have a monitor like OMEGAMON, the answer is NO. > > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Display IEAOPT
>The IBM Solution is OMEGAMON. :-) I'm willing to guess that Lizette is looking to see if the ERV value is changed (as was asked over on MXG-L). But, IIRC, OMEGAMON doesn't display that. (Of course, I could be wrong). - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Display IEAOPT
And if you have seen the OMEGAMON of today; you might not think it is much of a solution. Jim Chappell 503 745-7841 503 349-5603(cell) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Daimler Trucks North America LLC If you are not the intended addressee, please inform us immediately that you have received this e-mail in error, and delete it. We thank you for your cooperation. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Display IEAOPT
>That seems a bit short sighted of IBM. It's sorta: "Trust me! You set it, so it should be what is in your PARMLIB"! Of course, that's assuming you edited the correct PARMLIB. - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Display IEAOPT
The IBM Solution is OMEGAMON. :-) Joe Winterton IBM Manager OMEGAMON - R&D Phone 914-766-1822 T/L 826-1822 cellphone - 914-954-0483 - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lizette Koehler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 07/02/2008 10:52 AM Please respond to IBM Mainframe Discussion List To IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU cc Subject Re: Display IEAOPT That seems a bit short sighted of IBM. Okay, I have TMON MVS. I will see if it can provide the information. Otherwise, I will see if I can do a control block hunt for the IEAOPT information. Lizette > >>Does anyone know of a way to display IEAOPTxx so I can see if my changes to the parameters occurred? > >Unfortunately, unless you have a monitor like OMEGAMON, the answer is NO. > > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Display IEAOPT
That seems a bit short sighted of IBM. Okay, I have TMON MVS. I will see if it can provide the information. Otherwise, I will see if I can do a control block hunt for the IEAOPT information. Lizette > >>Does anyone know of a way to display IEAOPTxx so I can see if my changes to >>the parameters occurred? > >Unfortunately, unless you have a monitor like OMEGAMON, the answer is NO. > > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Display IEAOPT
>Does anyone know of a way to display IEAOPTxx so I can see if my changes to >the parameters occurred? Unfortunately, unless you have a monitor like OMEGAMON, the answer is NO. - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Display IEAOPT
I have been looking through the manauls and it does not seem to be there. Does anyone know of a way to display IEAOPTxx so I can see if my changes to the parameters occurred? Lizette -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
