Re: EREP query

2009-08-11 Thread Mark Zelden
On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 11:11:54 -0500, Richard Peurifoy
 wrote:

>There is a SETLOGRC IGNORE command.
>I don't know if this would allow you to scratch and reallocate it or
>not. 

It will allow you to scratch and reallocate it, but then again, you can
do that without SETLOGRC IGNORE.  

It still won't be usable until you IPL.   But SETLOGRC IGNORE should
be used if the OP plan's on increasing the size now.   Probably better
to wait to just prior to IPL to reallocate it so nothing is lost. 

>Remember to dump it before you do this if you want to preserve
>whats already in it.
>If this works then a SETLOGRC DATASET should restart it.
>

It will attempt to restart recording, but will have I/O errors. 
So it won't work or do what you think it should.  
The ERDS DEB is in *MASTER*.

However, the OP could switch to LOGSTREAM on the fly.

>Warning, I have never tried this.
>

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Re: EREP query

2009-08-11 Thread Richard Peurifoy

Richard Peurifoy wrote:

Beesley, Paul wrote:

Richard and Mark
Thanks for the info and suggestions.
I plan to increase LOGREC ( pity it needs an IPL, one of the few things
that does so these days) - its only 59 tracks.
Hadn't heard of IFCOFFLD, looks useful 


There is a SETLOGRC IGNORE command.
I don't know if this would allow you to scratch and reallocate it or
not. Remember to dump it before you do this if you want to preserve
whats already in it.
If this works then a SETLOGRC DATASET should restart it.

Warning, I have never tried this.



Also, the new one probably needs to be on the same volume.

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Re: EREP query

2009-08-11 Thread Richard Peurifoy

Beesley, Paul wrote:

Richard and Mark
Thanks for the info and suggestions.
I plan to increase LOGREC ( pity it needs an IPL, one of the few things
that does so these days) - its only 59 tracks.
Hadn't heard of IFCOFFLD, looks useful 


There is a SETLOGRC IGNORE command.
I don't know if this would allow you to scratch and reallocate it or
not. Remember to dump it before you do this if you want to preserve
whats already in it.
If this works then a SETLOGRC DATASET should restart it.

Warning, I have never tried this.

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Re: EREP query

2009-08-11 Thread Beesley, Paul
Richard and Mark
Thanks for the info and suggestions.
I plan to increase LOGREC ( pity it needs an IPL, one of the few things
that does so these days) - its only 59 tracks.
Hadn't heard of IFCOFFLD, looks useful 


Regards
Paul 

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IFCEREP1 downloads the MDR's at the time it runs (Z EOD also does this).
I think they also get downloaded if the counters overflow.
You should increase the size of you LOGREC or switch to the system
logger. If your LOGREC is full, and you don't want to loose the MDR's
you can run IFCOFFLD which dumps/clears LOGREC without downloading the
MDR's.

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Re: EREP query

2009-08-11 Thread Richard Peurifoy

Beesley, Paul wrote:

We run a job every day at 06:30 to clear LOGREC and write to a history
file ( JCL below ).
Every day without fail the following message is issued while the job is
running.
*IFB081I LOGREC DATA SET IS FULL,06.30.58, 
 DSN=SYS1.FIF2.LOGREC  
When I check LOGREC, its full of MDR records for every DASD volume in

the known universe as at 06:30.
Why is this happening and how can I stop it ? There's not much point
clearing logrec only for it to fill up again with useless MDR records.
This caused us to have no valid logrec records for IBM the other day
after a system outage ...

//JS010  EXEC PGM=IFCEREP1,TIME=10,   
//PARM='LINECT=60,ACC=Y,HIST=N,ZERO=Y,SYSUM=Y'
//SERLOG   DD DSN=SYS1.FIF2.LOGREC,DISP=SHR   
//ACCDEV   DD DSN=SYS3.FIF2.EREPHIST, 
//DISP=(NEW,CATLG,DELETE),
//SPACE=(2000,(3000,3000),RLSE),  
//AVGREC=U,   
//LRECL=2000, 
//RECFM=VB
//DIRECTWK DD UNIT=SYSALLDA,SPACE=(CYL,(5,5)) 
//TOURIST  DD SYSOUT=*
//EREPPT   DD SYSOUT=*
//SYSINDD DUMMY,DCB=BLKSIZE=80


IFCEREP1 downloads the MDR's at the time it runs (Z EOD also does this).
I think they also get downloaded if the counters overflow.
You should increase the size of you LOGREC or switch to the system
logger. If your LOGREC is full, and you don't want to loose the MDR's
you can run IFCOFFLD which dumps/clears LOGREC without downloading
the MDR's.

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Re: EREP query

2009-08-11 Thread Mark Zelden
On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 14:51:52 +0100, Beesley, Paul
 wrote:

>We run a job every day at 06:30 to clear LOGREC and write to a history
>file ( JCL below ).
>Every day without fail the following message is issued while the job is
>running.
>*IFB081I LOGREC DATA SET IS FULL,06.30.58, 
> DSN=SYS1.FIF2.LOGREC  
>When I check LOGREC, its full of MDR records for every DASD volume in
>the known universe as at 06:30.
>Why is this happening and how can I stop it ? There's not much point
>clearing logrec only for it to fill up again with useless MDR records.
>This caused us to have no valid logrec records for IBM the other day
>after a system outage ...
>



1) Have you looked into what those MDR records are?

2) How big is your LOGREC data set and why not just make it large 
enough to handle whatever the "normal" activity would be PLUS 
a large fudge factor for abnormal activity?

3) Have you considered using the system logger for LOGREC since you 
wouldn't run into a full condition for some unexpected abnormal 
   activity (unless your DASD pool fills up)?

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EREP query

2009-08-11 Thread Beesley, Paul
We run a job every day at 06:30 to clear LOGREC and write to a history
file ( JCL below ).
Every day without fail the following message is issued while the job is
running.
*IFB081I LOGREC DATA SET IS FULL,06.30.58, 
 DSN=SYS1.FIF2.LOGREC  
When I check LOGREC, its full of MDR records for every DASD volume in
the known universe as at 06:30.
Why is this happening and how can I stop it ? There's not much point
clearing logrec only for it to fill up again with useless MDR records.
This caused us to have no valid logrec records for IBM the other day
after a system outage ...

//JS010  EXEC PGM=IFCEREP1,TIME=10,   
//PARM='LINECT=60,ACC=Y,HIST=N,ZERO=Y,SYSUM=Y'
//SERLOG   DD DSN=SYS1.FIF2.LOGREC,DISP=SHR   
//ACCDEV   DD DSN=SYS3.FIF2.EREPHIST, 
//DISP=(NEW,CATLG,DELETE),
//SPACE=(2000,(3000,3000),RLSE),  
//AVGREC=U,   
//LRECL=2000, 
//RECFM=VB
//DIRECTWK DD UNIT=SYSALLDA,SPACE=(CYL,(5,5)) 
//TOURIST  DD SYSOUT=*
//EREPPT   DD SYSOUT=*
//SYSINDD DUMMY,DCB=BLKSIZE=80



Paul Beesley


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